2015 Chances of Upgrade Clearing and Upgrade Availability Discussion (consolidated)
#916
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 47
Would like some help if possible. Any reason why i would have and "additional fare collection" ($107, me and $88 wife) in addition to a miles, plus $350 co-pay for my return tickets, but just a straight up $350 for the outgoing ?
Thanks
Thanks
#917
In Memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Benicia CA
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold 75K, AA 3.8MM, UA 1.1MM, enjoying the retired life
Posts: 31,849
Are you departing from the UK? Was your original ticket purchased in economy?
#919
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Programs: AA EXP...couple hotels and cars too
Posts: 4,548
Although I would have expected a symmetric fee (same for wife as you)
(Any chance you fly INTO LHR within 24 hours of the planned departure??)
#920
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 47
No, she had a 7 day stay in London and I was 9 days. Had no idea I was looking at an additional $100 after the $350, but that's my fault i guess. It seems a little absurd, but oh well.
Additional Fare Collection 108.50
Additional Fare Collection 51.40
Additional Fare Collection 108.50
Additional Fare Collection 51.40
#921
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: TUL
Programs: AA Plat, DL FO/1MM, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium, National Exec Elite
Posts: 2,102
I am traveling today (10/12/15) from DFW-SFO on AA37. When the upgrade list became available for viewing, I was #1 on the list up until about 30 minutes ago. I took a screenshot of the list on my phone which turns out came in handy because the people (presumably a couple) who were originally listed as #4/5 jumped up to #1/2, knocking me back to #3. I realize the list changes all the time, but what can cause someone's position on the upgrade list to change on the day of travel? I was always under the impression it was status and then time of upgrade request which obviously can't change on the day of travel, so I'm just curious what else could factor in here? I spoke to someone at the EXP line who was clueless and the GA who was apologetic but unable to figure out the reason for the change. Not planning to pursue it any further, but just kind of irritating especially since I have a screenshot of them at a lower position.
Thanks!
Thanks!
#922
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 5,270
I am traveling today (10/12/15) from DFW-SFO on AA37. When the upgrade list became available for viewing, I was #1 on the list up until about 30 minutes ago. I took a screenshot of the list on my phone which turns out came in handy because the people (presumably a couple) who were originally listed as #4/5 jumped up to #1/2, knocking me back to #3. I realize the list changes all the time, but what can cause someone's position on the upgrade list to change on the day of travel?
#923
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 47
I've booked 4 separate mileage/co-pay upgrades in the last week (albeit overseas), everyone of them has worked flawlessly by calling at 5 min till 26 or 25 hours out and letting the reservations person hit refresh. Two of these were when only 6 or 8 seats were showing. I'm pretty sure waiting for that waitlist to happen would have produced a strikeout...
#924
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: SEA
Programs: AA LT PLT; HH Diamond; AS 75K
Posts: 2,881
PEK-ORD
I'm pretty sure this flight on 10/14 will be good for upgrades. 36 hours out there hadn't been 1 J seat purchased. 19 hours out there is only one seat taken on the seat map (mine :-) )
I called at about 36 hours to ask about the upgrade and the agent attempted to push it through given not one seat in business had been taken yet but they said SOP for this situation was at 24 hours.
I called at about 36 hours to ask about the upgrade and the agent attempted to push it through given not one seat in business had been taken yet but they said SOP for this situation was at 24 hours.
#925
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: RDU
Programs: AA LT Gold, DL SM, HY Disc, Marriott LT Gold
Posts: 12,507
I've been dismayed (because I was spoiled) at how the upgrade percentages for westbound ORD-PHX/LAX/SFO has dropped dramatically over the last three months. I went from having a 95% upgrade percentage nationwide and 100% on those routes for the first half of 2015, to having a 33% upgrade percentage westbound since August 1.
Conversely, there have been a few upgrades that I thought for sure I wasn't going to get that were actually easy at T-4 - these were all on flights that were oversold in coach and thus they were limiting any kind of revenue sales, or flights where there was a risk of weather-related IRROPS earlier in the day.
I'm probably going to miss by 2 on ORD-PHX today (F0Y4). I looked at a week from today, already down to F5 out of 16. I looked 2 weeks out, the four midday flights (9:45am through 3:30pm) are all down to F3 to F5.
Flying home, I don't run into this, because I fly on the last non-redeye that doesn't have connecting traffic beyond Chicago.
Conversely, there have been a few upgrades that I thought for sure I wasn't going to get that were actually easy at T-4 - these were all on flights that were oversold in coach and thus they were limiting any kind of revenue sales, or flights where there was a risk of weather-related IRROPS earlier in the day.
I'm probably going to miss by 2 on ORD-PHX today (F0Y4). I looked at a week from today, already down to F5 out of 16. I looked 2 weeks out, the four midday flights (9:45am through 3:30pm) are all down to F3 to F5.
Flying home, I don't run into this, because I fly on the last non-redeye that doesn't have connecting traffic beyond Chicago.
#926
Join Date: Feb 2011
Programs: AA Executive Platinum, Hyatt Globalist, HHonors Silver
Posts: 189
I'm looking to book a flight to LHR via LAX about a month out, and I could use some advice on maximizing the likelihood of SWUs clearing for the international segments. I am traveling with a friend; I'm EXP, he's Gold.
Ideal outbound travel date: Sat, Nov 7th (can wiggle to Thu, Fri, or Sun)
Ideal return travel date: Sun, Nov 15th (can wiggle to Sat or Mon, maybe Tue)
What are the most likely days to clear LAX/LHR? How about LHR/LAX?
Are the earlier (108/109) or later (136/135) flights more likely to clear? (Is one better one direction and the other the other direction?)
I know requesting the upgrade less than a month out's much less than ideal, which is why I'm very interested in choosing flights with the highest likelihood of success.
Thanks in advance!
OM
Ideal outbound travel date: Sat, Nov 7th (can wiggle to Thu, Fri, or Sun)
Ideal return travel date: Sun, Nov 15th (can wiggle to Sat or Mon, maybe Tue)
What are the most likely days to clear LAX/LHR? How about LHR/LAX?
Are the earlier (108/109) or later (136/135) flights more likely to clear? (Is one better one direction and the other the other direction?)
I know requesting the upgrade less than a month out's much less than ideal, which is why I'm very interested in choosing flights with the highest likelihood of success.
Thanks in advance!
OM
#927
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Programs: AA EXP...couple hotels and cars too
Posts: 4,548
#928
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Programs: AA EXP...couple hotels and cars too
Posts: 4,548
I'm looking to book a flight to LHR via LAX about a month out, and I could use some advice on maximizing the likelihood of SWUs clearing for the international segments. I am traveling with a friend; I'm EXP, he's Gold.
Ideal outbound travel date: Sat, Nov 7th (can wiggle to Thu, Fri, or Sun)
Ideal return travel date: Sun, Nov 15th (can wiggle to Sat or Mon, maybe Tue)
What are the most likely days to clear LAX/LHR? How about LHR/LAX?
Are the earlier (108/109) or later (136/135) flights more likely to clear? (Is one better one direction and the other the other direction?)
I know requesting the upgrade less than a month out's much less than ideal, which is why I'm very interested in choosing flights with the highest likelihood of success.
Thanks in advance!
OM
Ideal outbound travel date: Sat, Nov 7th (can wiggle to Thu, Fri, or Sun)
Ideal return travel date: Sun, Nov 15th (can wiggle to Sat or Mon, maybe Tue)
What are the most likely days to clear LAX/LHR? How about LHR/LAX?
Are the earlier (108/109) or later (136/135) flights more likely to clear? (Is one better one direction and the other the other direction?)
I know requesting the upgrade less than a month out's much less than ideal, which is why I'm very interested in choosing flights with the highest likelihood of success.
Thanks in advance!
OM
IMO Thurs and Tues will be lowest. Friday LAX-LHR seems the next choice I think.
Early vs later- I can run a lot of scenarios...not sure which is in your favor.
I just looked at Saturday. AA136 looks very empty: 31 open J seats; still selling 6 I class (cheapest J seats) and only 7 people seated in MCE. surpsing 25 days out.
Same day AA108 has 16 people in MCE and 26 open J. No I inventory
On Friday, 135 has 13 in MCE; 37 open J and selling I3
108 has 12 in MCE; 23 open J and no I
AA136 Sat for me.
Looking at the return... Sunday looks much fuller on both flights as compared to Monday. Monday both show over 30 open J seats, but both times have more MCE load. Like 12 on 109 and 18 on 136 taken. Id go for the earlier one on monday. (Didnt look at tuesday)
HTH
YMMV
#929
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: AA Platinum Pro, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Exploralist, Marriot Silver
Posts: 2,065
Quick Vote
EXP: F2A1, SFO-ORD, Sat. morning departure in two weeks, ticket purchased 3+ months in advance...