Inaugural AA963 777-300ER / 77W DFW-GRU 31 Jan 2013 (photos)
Feb 1, 2013, 7:55 am
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So the fare has to stay cheap and then you try to show that your cheap seat is better than the other guy's cheap seat.
In that battle AA are actually quite well placed as their seat will be both cheap and new unlike most of the other guys and they will be able to hit a few key differentiators on IFE, power etc. and gloss over the 3-4-3 issue that most infrequent travelers will not really focus on anyway.
Feb 1, 2013, 8:05 am
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I took a tour today as well and have posted some pics over at: http://www.travelingbetter.com/forum...ead.php?t=5436
I'm not 100% on this but I could have sworn that the product people on board showing off MCE said "the seats are actually wider too." Hard to tell now looking back at my photos but they certainly did look wider given how tight they are back in regular economy. Regardless, I think the MCE cabin is fantastic. If you ever do end up alone in economy go straight for 33B/J.
I'm not 100% on this but I could have sworn that the product people on board showing off MCE said "the seats are actually wider too." Hard to tell now looking back at my photos but they certainly did look wider given how tight they are back in regular economy. Regardless, I think the MCE cabin is fantastic. If you ever do end up alone in economy go straight for 33B/J.
Feb 1, 2013, 8:05 am
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Originally Posted by Mark_T:20165692
The problem is that time and time again people vote with their wallet and show that you can't charge a premium for a coach seat and justify it on service/comfort grounds.
So the fare has to stay cheap and then you try to show that your cheap seat is better than the other guy's cheap seat.
In that battle AA are actually quite well placed as their seat will be both cheap and new unlike most of the other guys and they will be able to hit a few key differentiators on IFE, power etc. and gloss over the 3-4-3 issue that most infrequent travelers will not really focus on anyway.
So the fare has to stay cheap and then you try to show that your cheap seat is better than the other guy's cheap seat.
In that battle AA are actually quite well placed as their seat will be both cheap and new unlike most of the other guys and they will be able to hit a few key differentiators on IFE, power etc. and gloss over the 3-4-3 issue that most infrequent travelers will not really focus on anyway.
Feb 1, 2013, 8:07 am
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While this is true up to a point, I think 3-4-3 on a 777 crosses a certain line that many pax will not accept.
If Y pax were willing to put up with discomfort for cheaper fares, then why don't all 767 operators go 2-4-2? It's possible, and some charter/deep discount airlines have done it. Why not have 29 inch pitch on all planes? Clearly there is a certain line beyond which most travelers are not willing to venture in order to save a few bucks. 3-4-3 comes dangerously close to that line and IMO probably crosses it.
If Y pax were willing to put up with discomfort for cheaper fares, then why don't all 767 operators go 2-4-2? It's possible, and some charter/deep discount airlines have done it. Why not have 29 inch pitch on all planes? Clearly there is a certain line beyond which most travelers are not willing to venture in order to save a few bucks. 3-4-3 comes dangerously close to that line and IMO probably crosses it.
There is certainly a threshold beyond which people will attempt to avoid traveling. 3-4-3 is close, but not enough, IMO.
Feb 1, 2013, 8:13 am
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Did anyone who was on the tour of the 777-300er notice if the business seats rt behind the FClass and rt in front of the bulkhead are good seats. I am will on the LHR-DFW flight.
Feb 1, 2013, 8:25 am
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AA has chosen the cattle-car approach to Y on these planes. The market will tell them whether it was a wise move or, like with its complete removal of MRTC, was a failure. Given that these birds will be employed on >10 hour flights, I can see regular Y travelers choosing a different airline if they find AA too cramped. All it takes is 10 hours next to an obese person (~ 35% of US population) to make you change your mind about paying an extra $50 ($5/hour) the next time for some breathing space.
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Feb 1, 2013, 8:33 am
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Feb 1, 2013, 8:42 am
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Feb 1, 2013, 9:10 am
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Feb 1, 2013, 9:20 am
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If Y pax were willing to put up with discomfort for cheaper fares, then why don't all 767 operators go 2-4-2? It's possible, and some charter/deep discount airlines have done it. Why not have 29 inch pitch on all planes? Clearly there is a certain line beyond which most travelers are not willing to venture in order to save a few bucks. 3-4-3 comes dangerously close to that line and IMO probably crosses it.
Feb 1, 2013, 9:24 am
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These seats are tempting for a quick exit on arrival, I just hope they don't tend to get 'forgotten' during service runs
Feb 1, 2013, 9:26 am
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Seriously. All this brouhaha by AA about new product/new branding/enhanced product - should have a huge asterisk by it. Surprised AA doesn't realize that some of their most loyal flyers aren't always plumping down the cash for F or J - that there's a lot of us who regularly fly AA (on our own dime might I add) that would've appreciated at least keeping the Y product acceptable.