Inaugural AA963 777-300ER / 77W DFW-GRU 31 Jan 2013 (photos)
Feb 1, 2013, 12:04 am
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Inaugural AA963 777-300ER / 77W DFW-GRU 31 Jan 2012 (photos)
So was this all a lie then??
" All of these features, including individual 110v universal AC power outlets and USB jacks, will be available at every seat and every cabin on our new planes"
http://www.aa.com/i18n/urls/newplanes.jsp
" All of these features, including individual 110v universal AC power outlets and USB jacks, will be available at every seat and every cabin on our new planes"
http://www.aa.com/i18n/urls/newplanes.jsp
Feb 1, 2013, 12:35 am
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Looking at the pictures, theres definitely an outlet built into every Y seat.
Feb 1, 2013, 1:10 am
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Feb 1, 2013, 1:34 am
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CX seat however is much much wider as there are only 6 seats- also the CX seat is more open and balances privacy with airiness some of these other BOX cabins look extremely claustrophobic
Feb 1, 2013, 1:38 am
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seems like AA has taken heaps of cues from CX -well this certainly does increase the Quality gap between Oneworld and the others
Feb 1, 2013, 4:19 am
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We need to remember that 10-across delivers a significantly lower CASM versus 9-across. The 77W will be excellent for the heavy hub to hub e.g. DFW-LHR routes that can use the extra capacity.
LOL....then stack Y passengers like logs on top of each other, or develop a standing harness where we can put them 12 across and two high. That will bring down CASM too. Fact is, AA has adopted the WORST Y cabin of any US-based carrier in the 777. If I were DL or UA, I'd pee all over AA's parade with this one. The Y cabin horror has been widely-ignored by AA, and fact is that is where most of its passengers will fly.
LOL....then stack Y passengers like logs on top of each other, or develop a standing harness where we can put them 12 across and two high. That will bring down CASM too. Fact is, AA has adopted the WORST Y cabin of any US-based carrier in the 777. If I were DL or UA, I'd pee all over AA's parade with this one. The Y cabin horror has been widely-ignored by AA, and fact is that is where most of its passengers will fly.
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Feb 1, 2013, 4:23 am
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Just saw the photos. Am I the only one who thinks the aisles in Y look horrifically narrow? How is any non-anorexic person supposed to walk without slamming into every person sitting in an aisle seat?
Feb 1, 2013, 5:39 am
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We need to remember that 10-across delivers a significantly lower CASM versus 9-across. The 77W will be excellent for the heavy hub to hub e.g. DFW-LHR routes that can use the extra capacity.
LOL....then stack Y passengers like logs on top of each other, or develop a standing harness where we can put them 12 across and two high. That will bring down CASM too. Fact is, AA has adopted the WORST Y cabin of any US-based carrier in the 777. If I were DL or UA, I'd pee all over AA's parade with this one. The Y cabin horror has been widely-ignored by AA, and fact is that is where most of its passengers will fly.
LOL....then stack Y passengers like logs on top of each other, or develop a standing harness where we can put them 12 across and two high. That will bring down CASM too. Fact is, AA has adopted the WORST Y cabin of any US-based carrier in the 777. If I were DL or UA, I'd pee all over AA's parade with this one. The Y cabin horror has been widely-ignored by AA, and fact is that is where most of its passengers will fly.
The reason UA and DL aren't pissing on them is because they are probably considering the same.
Feb 1, 2013, 6:52 am
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[QUOTE=sts603;20165087] but MCE is something. QUOTE]
...sure is.....standard coach on other carriers.
...sure is.....standard coach on other carriers.
Feb 1, 2013, 7:02 am
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Feb 1, 2013, 7:37 am
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Thanks for the report. The flight is far from sold out (except for F, where I guess it's filled with AA mgt and invitees): J7 R7 D1 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L0 V0 G0 S0 N0 Q0 O0. From the seatmap, there are 9 unassigned seats.
That's because it's the same exact seat, the Cirrus by Sicma/Zodiac designed by JPA design. Having flown it, I like it. A whole lot., actually a ton. I would not be surprised if it's the best J seat in the sky at the moment; finally AA made a correct decision after the 1996 fiasco of the current J seats.
That's because it's the same exact seat, the Cirrus by Sicma/Zodiac designed by JPA design. Having flown it, I like it. A whole lot., actually a ton. I would not be surprised if it's the best J seat in the sky at the moment; finally AA made a correct decision after the 1996 fiasco of the current J seats.
Y, yikes...10 seats. bloody awful.
Feb 1, 2013, 7:41 am
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[QUOTE=bubbashow;20165374]
Standard coach width. Extra leg room.
As I said I wish AA had gone to a full Premium Economy - more width, extra leg room, better service. But alas, we got MCE. But still it provides the Y passenger who is willing to spend a little more the option to get something more comfortable while still maintaining high-density good-for-CASM seating in most of Y.
People forget that 10 across on the 777 is not a new invention but was always an option since Boeing started marketing the plane. And I think the Japanese domestic 777s have always been 10 across.
As I said I wish AA had gone to a full Premium Economy - more width, extra leg room, better service. But alas, we got MCE. But still it provides the Y passenger who is willing to spend a little more the option to get something more comfortable while still maintaining high-density good-for-CASM seating in most of Y.
People forget that 10 across on the 777 is not a new invention but was always an option since Boeing started marketing the plane. And I think the Japanese domestic 777s have always been 10 across.
Feb 1, 2013, 7:43 am
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And the majority of Y passengers whine and moan about bad service and delays and so on over and over yet continually go running back to the cheapest carrier. And carriers who have tried to get a premium for Y have failed nearly every time. That is the impetus for creating another class - premium economy which caters to those Y passengers who will pay something for a better experience. Wish AA had gone that route but MCE is something.
Feb 1, 2013, 7:49 am
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Totally agree. Unfortunately this is compounded by the fact that corporate travel policies have become stingier and some (myself included) are often restricted to booking the cheapest non-stop flight, regardless of carrier. (Which options are clearly pointed out when using our mandated travel booking tool through CWT.) MRTC didn't work in the past b/c people weren't willing to pay for it; with today's corporate travel policies, even if some people were willing to pay a bit more to fly on an airline with a more comfortable Y product, they might not be able to.
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Originally Posted by sts603
And the majority of Y passengers whine and moan about bad service and delays and so on over and over yet continually go running back to the cheapest carrier. And carriers who have tried to get a premium for Y have failed nearly every time.