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[This thread is obsolete now that N800AN, American Airlines' first Being 787-8, has been announced as arriving DFW for flight trials etc. today. AA9702 departed PAE (Everett, WA) 14:07 hrs Friday, 23 January 2015, and is expected to land DFW at approximately 19:00 (local times).
Please follow the new thread here: AA's first Boeing 787 / 787-8 delivered to DFW today 23 Jan 2015)
Thank you.
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The first AA 787-8, N800AN, has been built; flight testing began 6 January 2015 with the article currently referred to as "BOE-817".
The initial 787-8 configuration is expected to be 28 J, 48 MCE and 150 MC.
Post 184 (sluggoaafa):
(Post #186, JonNYC, has details for the 787-9.)
The All Things 787 Blog states American has 16 787-8s and 26 787-9s on order.
Post #157 states first passenger flights early 2015.
JonNYC depicts what the J cabin layout is likely here in post #260.
roadwarrior84 in post #260 shares some interior photos he found online, here.
To keep things in some semblance of organisation, I've consolidated all of the 2012 threads on the 787 delivery dates, orders or delays into this thread. For reference, here are the threads I found from years past, along with their dates:
. . . ● 14 Jan 2013: American changing jet orders with Boeing, Airbus
. . . ● 12 November 2011: AA 787 delivery schedule?
. . . ● 21 December 2010: AA 787 delivery dates at risk - again!
. . . ● 2 September 2010: American's 787's may fly JFK-LHR
. . . ● 21 February 2010: Boeing 787 Dreamliner: when realistic to fly on AA?
. . . ● 17 April 2009: 787 deliveries pushed back to 2013
. . . ● 15 October 2008: AA Orders 42 787 "Dreamliners" (+ 58 on options)
Please see AA (internally) announces first B788 route for route and inaugural flights information.
[This thread is obsolete now that N800AN, American Airlines' first Being 787-8, has been announced as arriving DFW for flight trials etc. today. AA9702 departed PAE (Everett, WA) 14:07 hrs Friday, 23 January 2015, and is expected to land DFW at approximately 19:00 (local times).
Please follow the new thread here: AA's first Boeing 787 / 787-8 delivered to DFW today 23 Jan 2015)
Thank you.
/Moderator
The initial 787-8 configuration is expected to be 28 J, 48 MCE and 150 MC.
Post 184 (sluggoaafa):
28 B/C, 48 MCE, 150 MC
...last word we had was the 787 is due on 'property' approximately 12/31. January will be tied to FAA. February getting a few more tweaks done. March will be first AA revenue flight.
...last word we had was the 787 is due on 'property' approximately 12/31. January will be tied to FAA. February getting a few more tweaks done. March will be first AA revenue flight.
Originally Posted by American Airlines
Boeing 787s
We have plans to acquire 42 state-of-the-art 787(-8) Dreamliners, which are currently scheduled to be delivered starting in late 2014
We have plans to acquire 42 state-of-the-art 787(-8) Dreamliners, which are currently scheduled to be delivered starting in late 2014
Post #157 states first passenger flights early 2015.
JonNYC depicts what the J cabin layout is likely here in post #260.
roadwarrior84 in post #260 shares some interior photos he found online, here.
To keep things in some semblance of organisation, I've consolidated all of the 2012 threads on the 787 delivery dates, orders or delays into this thread. For reference, here are the threads I found from years past, along with their dates:
. . . ● 14 Jan 2013: American changing jet orders with Boeing, Airbus
. . . ● 12 November 2011: AA 787 delivery schedule?
. . . ● 21 December 2010: AA 787 delivery dates at risk - again!
. . . ● 2 September 2010: American's 787's may fly JFK-LHR
. . . ● 21 February 2010: Boeing 787 Dreamliner: when realistic to fly on AA?
. . . ● 17 April 2009: 787 deliveries pushed back to 2013
. . . ● 15 October 2008: AA Orders 42 787 "Dreamliners" (+ 58 on options)
Please see AA (internally) announces first B788 route for route and inaugural flights information.
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Word on the street is that the 787 delivery has been delayed to december per Boeing.
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AA 787s will get the same seats going into the 772 retrofit.
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The website All Things 787 is reporting that parts are now arriving for N800AN, AA's first 787 and that construction will begin during the third week of August. This construction schedule should allow N800AN to begin test flying in September.
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Seating configuration
I just read that AA's Dreamliner will be outfitted with only 226 seats. I might be wrong but I thought that the 787 was significantly larger than the 767 and that already has 218 seats (going down to 209 after lie flat retrofit). It just seems like they will have a lot of premium seats or maybe coach will be roomier?
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I just read that AA's Dreamliner will be outfitted with only 226 seats. I might be wrong but I thought that the 787 was significantly larger than the 767 and that already has 218 seats (going down to 209 after lie flat retrofit). It just seems like they will have a lot of premium seats or maybe coach will be roomier?
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I just read that AA's Dreamliner will be outfitted with only 226 seats. I might be wrong but I thought that the 787 was significantly larger than the 767 and that already has 218 seats (going down to 209 after lie flat retrofit). It just seems like they will have a lot of premium seats or maybe coach will be roomier?
With 226 total seats in the 787-8, AA's cabins will be significantly more cramped than JAL's 186-seat 787-8s. JAL outfits its 787s with 42J (slanted like AA's NGBC) plus 144 economy seats at 8-across.
From the initial numbers, there will be nothing "roomier" about AA's 787-8s.
Even United crams just 219 total seats on its 787-8s.
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The major unique selling point of the 787 is its ability to economically do long, (relatively) thin routes like JL's NRT-BOS or thin routes with operational challenges (short runway, altitude, etc) like JL's NRT-SAN or UA's NRT-DEN. It's roughly 767-sized (slightly bigger) with 777-like range (depending on variant of each, of course).
Also, we have to remeber that there will be fairly large size discrepancies between the different 787 models.
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787-8 Progress
Boeing has made significant progress in moving the 787 production along. N800AN, the first AA 787-8 is undergoing pre flight preparation, as it came off the assembly line two weeks ago. N801AC, the second AA ship is undergoing final assembly that started on 9/26, and parts are arriving for N802AN with a date of 10/16 for beginning assembly. N803AC will be 6th in line at Everett for parts to begin arriving. I have been checking Puget Sound Boeing Test Flights to see if N800AN has had her first flight, but it appears that she has not. Boeing now is delivering 787s at a rate of 10-11 per month, so it will be soon that we will begin to see a couple of these birds in the fleet.
I had read that AA was looking to take over the assignment of Delta's SEA to HND run. These birds might fit in well on this route if AA gets better landing and takeoff times than they had with their JFK-HND flights.
I had read that AA was looking to take over the assignment of Delta's SEA to HND run. These birds might fit in well on this route if AA gets better landing and takeoff times than they had with their JFK-HND flights.
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Just to be clear, AA wants the DL frequency. They want to use it on LAX-HND. Also, the times are fairly decent for West coast flights, it's for flights from the east coast where the timing of the US airlines' frequencies are truly impossible.
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Boeing has made significant progress in moving the 787 production along. N800AN, the first AA 787-8 is undergoing pre flight preparation, as it came off the assembly line two weeks ago. N801AC, the second AA ship is undergoing final assembly that started on 9/26, and parts are arriving for N802AN with a date of 10/16 for beginning assembly. N803AC will be 6th in line at Everett for parts to begin arriving. I have been checking Puget Sound Boeing Test Flights to see if N800AN has had her first flight, but it appears that she has not. Boeing now is delivering 787s at a rate of 10-11 per month, so it will be soon that we will begin to see a couple of these birds in the fleet.