Miles "with no expiration" to be converted to normal miles, with 25% bonus Nov 1 2012
Jul 13, 2012, 3:51 pm
#16
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Jul 13, 2012, 3:52 pm
#17
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Some examples of advantageous use of non-expiring Advantage miles.
each of the below is round trip for two. Some of the awards to cities in Europe are no longer valid because AA not longer flies to the specified country.
170K miles
Concorde tickets on BA between either New York or Washington, DC, and London
150K miles
US - Tokyo business class
US - Tokyo first class (seasonal)
US - Caracas first class
120K miles
US - Belgium, France, Germany, Great Britain (Italy/Rome is not included)
10K miles
Upgrade to first class from any coach class ticket not having an advance purchase requirement, not including Hawaii. This for 1 ticket not 2.
each of the below is round trip for two. Some of the awards to cities in Europe are no longer valid because AA not longer flies to the specified country.
170K miles
Concorde tickets on BA between either New York or Washington, DC, and London
150K miles
US - Tokyo business class
US - Tokyo first class (seasonal)
US - Caracas first class
120K miles
US - Belgium, France, Germany, Great Britain (Italy/Rome is not included)
10K miles
Upgrade to first class from any coach class ticket not having an advance purchase requirement, not including Hawaii. This for 1 ticket not 2.
Jul 13, 2012, 3:54 pm
#18
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All old awards are round trip. And old awards are NOT capacity controlled.
One way awards did not debut until recently.
One way awards did not debut until recently.
Jul 13, 2012, 4:00 pm
#19
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As of a few years ago, AA has claimed that they are capacity controlled?
Jul 13, 2012, 4:02 pm
#20
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I've had enough "new miles" in my account that I've seldom had to dip into the "old miles".
Another question for those of you who have been around since the legal settlement. Wasn't the creation of the "old mile" status part of that legal settlement.
Jul 13, 2012, 4:05 pm
#21
Join Date: Nov 2010
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There is a post from many years ago which listed the old awards. In lieu of sending you the link, I will just post them here:
30A. Two r/t upgrades, domestic 49-states. Good for Premium first from any fare.
40A. 75% discount on any AA ticket. Buy an F fare and accrue F miles, if it works out to less than the price you'd pay for cheap coach+stickers.
50B. Free ticket in First (incl. Premium class), PLUS a free r/t companion upgrade to First from any fare.
60I. Two free tickets (off-peak) in Coach to Europe.
70D. Free companion ticket in Business to Tokyo.
75A. Two Premium tickets, domestic 48-state.
80D. Free companion ticket in First to Tokyo.
90B. Free companion ticket in First to Europe.
90G. Free Coach tickets for two to Europe-- high season.
90J. Free Biz class ticket to Europe.
120B. Free Biz tickets for two to Europe.
125G. Free Biz class tickets for two to Tokyo (low season only, 150D for high season).
150E. Free First class tickets for two to Tokyo (low season only, 175G for high season).
175A. Free First class tickets for two to Europe.
30A. Two r/t upgrades, domestic 49-states. Good for Premium first from any fare.
40A. 75% discount on any AA ticket. Buy an F fare and accrue F miles, if it works out to less than the price you'd pay for cheap coach+stickers.
50B. Free ticket in First (incl. Premium class), PLUS a free r/t companion upgrade to First from any fare.
60I. Two free tickets (off-peak) in Coach to Europe.
70D. Free companion ticket in Business to Tokyo.
75A. Two Premium tickets, domestic 48-state.
80D. Free companion ticket in First to Tokyo.
90B. Free companion ticket in First to Europe.
90G. Free Coach tickets for two to Europe-- high season.
90J. Free Biz class ticket to Europe.
120B. Free Biz tickets for two to Europe.
125G. Free Biz class tickets for two to Tokyo (low season only, 150D for high season).
150E. Free First class tickets for two to Tokyo (low season only, 175G for high season).
175A. Free First class tickets for two to Europe.
Jul 13, 2012, 4:10 pm
#22
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I've got a whopping 750 non-expiring miles. Back in those days when I first started consulting, I would use miles almost as soon as I earned enough for a trip.
What, oh what, will I do with those 187.5 bonus miles?
What, oh what, will I do with those 187.5 bonus miles?
Jul 13, 2012, 4:15 pm
#23
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PlanAAhead awards introduced capacity controls, and Regular awards were not PlanAAhead awards (nor are they SAAver awards).
Jul 13, 2012, 4:19 pm
#24
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That's what I thought!
Are you sure that old awards are not capacity controlled. It was my impression that they were.
I've had enough "new miles" in my account that I've seldom had to dip into the "old miles".
Another question for those of you who have been around since the legal settlement. Wasn't the creation of the "old mile" status part of that legal settlement.
I've had enough "new miles" in my account that I've seldom had to dip into the "old miles".
Another question for those of you who have been around since the legal settlement. Wasn't the creation of the "old mile" status part of that legal settlement.
Jul 13, 2012, 4:21 pm
#25
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I remember we emailed AAdvantage customer service and they said there was capacity controls. This was in relation to the intl one class upgrades.
I don't doubt that individual agents might have claimed that capacity controls apply to the old awards, and that's to be expected given the reports of difficulty in even finding agents who realize that the old awards are still issued.
PlanAAhead awards introduced capacity controls, and Regular awards were not PlanAAhead awards (nor are they SAAver awards).
PlanAAhead awards introduced capacity controls, and Regular awards were not PlanAAhead awards (nor are they SAAver awards).
Jul 13, 2012, 4:31 pm
#26
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Of course, with the awards going away in a few months, there's not a lot of time to get in a fight with AA over their mistaken imposition of capacity controls on awards not subject to capacity controls.
Jul 13, 2012, 4:50 pm
#28
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This thread should be merged with the original and concurrently active Old Miles thread.
Jul 13, 2012, 4:57 pm
#29
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Jul 13, 2012, 4:58 pm
#30
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I have you beat, 780 non-expiring miles. I am already planning my next flight with the bonus miles :-)