Jan 28, 2014, 12:14 am
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oneworld / AA Explorer award with AA Miles (discuss, questions) [ENDED 8 APR 2014]
N.B. new oneworld/AA Explorer awards are no longer available as of the end of the day on April 7th, 2014.
Existing awards will be honored.
This thread is ONLY to inquire or add about existing oneworld Explorer awards; to comment on the loss of this booking option, please follow the discussion on:
Oneworld Explorer Awards Eliminated -- Effective Immediately [8 Apr 2014]
See the first post, below, for the rules that prevailed through 7 April 2014 and apply to those who booked Explorer awards prior to the end of these useful award tickets.
oneworld / AA Explorer award with AA Miles (discuss, questions) [ENDED 8 APR 2014]
Aug 9, 2012, 12:31 am
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You'd do better by posting this question in the South America forum: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/south-america-483/
Aug 9, 2012, 7:17 am
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BA has a few intra-Caribbean flights with local-traffic rights, and IB has a couple of intra-Central America flights, as well. There's also CX service between JFK and YVR.
Whether it's worth the time and trouble to include any of those detours just to qualify for an Explorer award is something only you can decide.
Originally Posted by deraynman1
Hello everyone,
I am planning a trip for late 2013 that takes me from New York > Quito, Ecuador (tentative) > Buenos Aires, Argentina > Ushuaia, Argentina
And then on the way back: Puntas Arenas, Chile > Santiago, Chile > Lima, Peru > Cusco, Peru > New York
I love the idea of the Explorer Award, but I don't see any way to get two different non-AA airlines involved. Everything would be AA or LAN Airlines. I have a few questions: Is there a way to get a second airline on this itinerary? Is the Explorer Award the best way to do this trip? The All Partner Award on AA does not allow stopovers so I don't think that would work for me. Is it possible that using BA miles for every leg is the best solution?
Also I realized that Oneworld flights to Ushuaia are few and far between and might have to do a Delta Skymiles redemption for Aerolineas Argentinas. Lastly, any must see spots in South America that I'm missing?
I love seeing FTers help out new guys like me. Thanks in advance!
I am planning a trip for late 2013 that takes me from New York > Quito, Ecuador (tentative) > Buenos Aires, Argentina > Ushuaia, Argentina
And then on the way back: Puntas Arenas, Chile > Santiago, Chile > Lima, Peru > Cusco, Peru > New York
I love the idea of the Explorer Award, but I don't see any way to get two different non-AA airlines involved. Everything would be AA or LAN Airlines. I have a few questions: Is there a way to get a second airline on this itinerary? Is the Explorer Award the best way to do this trip? The All Partner Award on AA does not allow stopovers so I don't think that would work for me. Is it possible that using BA miles for every leg is the best solution?
Also I realized that Oneworld flights to Ushuaia are few and far between and might have to do a Delta Skymiles redemption for Aerolineas Argentinas. Lastly, any must see spots in South America that I'm missing?
I love seeing FTers help out new guys like me. Thanks in advance!
Whether it's worth the time and trouble to include any of those detours just to qualify for an Explorer award is something only you can decide.
Aug 9, 2012, 4:03 pm
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Taxes on Oneworld Explorer Award
Hi,
I recently booked my first RTW trip, using 160k AA miles. I was wondering if $665 in taxes is correct/good for the following itinerary (all economy)?
Also, what is the latest time you can change date/time of a segment before the flight?
JFK -> SYD (QF via LAX)
SYD -> MEL (QF)
MEL -> AKL (QF)
AKL -> BNE (QF)
BNE -> HKG (CX via CNS)
HKG -> BKK (CX)
BKK -> DEL (CX)
DEL -> AMM (RJ)
AMM -> CAI (RJ)
CAI -> MAD (IB)
MAD -> LIM (IB)
LIM -> IPC (LAN)
IPC -> SCL (LAN)
SCL -> PUQ (LAN via PMC)
PUQ / GIG (OPEN JAW)
GIG->JFK (AA)
Thanks!
I recently booked my first RTW trip, using 160k AA miles. I was wondering if $665 in taxes is correct/good for the following itinerary (all economy)?
Also, what is the latest time you can change date/time of a segment before the flight?
JFK -> SYD (QF via LAX)
SYD -> MEL (QF)
MEL -> AKL (QF)
AKL -> BNE (QF)
BNE -> HKG (CX via CNS)
HKG -> BKK (CX)
BKK -> DEL (CX)
DEL -> AMM (RJ)
AMM -> CAI (RJ)
CAI -> MAD (IB)
MAD -> LIM (IB)
LIM -> IPC (LAN)
IPC -> SCL (LAN)
SCL -> PUQ (LAN via PMC)
PUQ / GIG (OPEN JAW)
GIG->JFK (AA)
Thanks!
Aug 9, 2012, 5:14 pm
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Have you plugged in your itinerary at the ITA website and checked the taxes (etc.)? Refer to the first post in this thread.
Aug 9, 2012, 5:38 pm
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*I have checked everywhere online, but could not find anything about the latest time to change date/times for a segment...is that information out there?
Thanks again.
Last edited by PhillyFlyers77; Aug 9, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Aug 9, 2012, 10:27 pm
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Impossible to compare. Taxes (etc.) depend on routing, countries visited, cabin, stopovers, and other factors.
Aug 10, 2012, 6:56 am
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Does anyone know the rule for changing date/time of a Oneworld Explorer Award segment??? Can I change it up to 24 hours before departure? Appreciate any help.
Aug 10, 2012, 9:54 am
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Why would you run such a risk?
Aug 10, 2012, 10:11 am
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Since any change would need to re-issue the whole ticket, I were you I would not count on the "latest cut-off window" to do such a thing. Any hiccup in the re-issuance of your new ticket, you are likely screwed with such a short window to your departure. The worst nightmare could be, the partners do not get the proper re-ticketing info and your seats are canceled after certain time has lapsed and there is no seat available to reinstate the original route in the class booked...
Why would you run such a risk?
Why would you run such a risk?
Do you happen to know the rule on this though?
When you say they re-issue the whole ticket, does that mean any confirmed seat I had is released? Or they just have to properly carry those over to the new ticket?
Thanks
Aug 10, 2012, 11:09 am
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The confirmed seats would not be released, but a new ticket would be re-issued and then send out to all the partners involved on that itinerary as the old ticket would be replaced, i.e. no longer good. So the partners have to receive the replacing ticket in order to keep the seats good. Glitch can happen and does happen - such as a segment or two completely fall off the itinerary (happened to our OneWorld awards before that took 2 or 3 days to get it fixed.)
Aug 10, 2012, 11:29 am
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The confirmed seats would not be released, but a new ticket would be re-issued and then send out to all the partners involved on that itinerary as the old ticket would be replaced, i.e. no longer good. So the partners have to receive the replacing ticket in order to keep the seats good. Glitch can happen and does happen - such as a segment or two completely fall off the itinerary (happened to our OneWorld awards before that took 2 or 3 days to get it fixed.)
Aug 15, 2012, 7:22 am
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I am pricing out some all partner and explorer options for a trip and, for reasons I can get into if needed, it seems like it would be better to start the Explorer trip in Asia and finish in the US - I can't find anywhere where it is a requirement to start and finish your trip in the same country - but am I missing something? Hopefully not. I'd like to do something like:
hkg-bne(stop)-cns(stop)-bne-hkg(stop)-tpe(stop)-nrt-lax-iad
Total Mileage is 19932, so it looks like the cost in business class would be 130,000 miles if I am not violating any of the rules with this.
hkg-bne(stop)-cns(stop)-bne-hkg(stop)-tpe(stop)-nrt-lax-iad
Total Mileage is 19932, so it looks like the cost in business class would be 130,000 miles if I am not violating any of the rules with this.
Aug 15, 2012, 7:29 am
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I am pricing out some all partner and explorer options for a trip and, for reasons I can get into if needed, it seems like it would be better to start the Explorer trip in Asia and finish in the US - I can't find anywhere where it is a requirement to start and finish your trip in the same country - but am I missing something? Hopefully not. I'd like to do something like:
hkg-bne(stop)-cns(stop)-bne-hkg(stop)-tpe(stop)-nrt-lax-iad
Total Mileage is 19932, so it looks like the cost in business class would be 130,000 miles if I am not violating any of the rules with this.
hkg-bne(stop)-cns(stop)-bne-hkg(stop)-tpe(stop)-nrt-lax-iad
Total Mileage is 19932, so it looks like the cost in business class would be 130,000 miles if I am not violating any of the rules with this.
However, you can't connect in your origin (HKG) or destination.
Aug 15, 2012, 7:36 am
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Ok, then any ideas on another way to make this work, maybe deleting the HKG stopover and keeping the mileage under 20k?
Last edited by GrizShel; Aug 15, 2012 at 8:14 am Reason: correct mileage allowance
Aug 15, 2012, 8:02 am
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On Explorer awards, the redemption rates change at 14K flown miles, not 15K.
How were you planning to get to HKG to start your Explorer award? If you were going to use a separate one-way award, you could fly to some other Asian city, and start the award there. Maybe someplace in Japan (other than Tokyo, since you want to pass through Tokyo on your Explorer award).
Remember that an Explorer award permits two connections and one stopover at any city other than the origin and destination.
Originally Posted by GrizShel
How were you planning to get to HKG to start your Explorer award? If you were going to use a separate one-way award, you could fly to some other Asian city, and start the award there. Maybe someplace in Japan (other than Tokyo, since you want to pass through Tokyo on your Explorer award).
Remember that an Explorer award permits two connections and one stopover at any city other than the origin and destination.