[Speculation] Discussion the New MVP Gold 100K Tier (2022)
#481
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,156
I'm curious to know if that's 100k flown on AS metal, or 100k EQM. The AS website says I have 147,381 EQM, 154k Partner miles and 61 segments. (Zero rollover from 2020) Based on that, I'm guessing I'm still about 1,800 miles short of 100k actual flown, meaning I'm going to have to book a quick SEA-LAX-SEA run to get over 100k actual AS flown.
So tired of chasing these carrots without actually being fed useful information on qualification levels.
So tired of chasing these carrots without actually being fed useful information on qualification levels.
#482
Join Date: May 2012
Location: HNL
Programs: AS MVPG, HA Plat
Posts: 1,268
Thinking about this a bit more, rolling out MVP 100K for the 2022 qualification year with 2021 EQM rolled over would make a certain amount of sense as part of a strategy for taking care of both elites who haven't been flying during the pandemic and those who have. There's been speculation about whether AS will extend 2019 status again or roll over EQM again. If they did both, the extension would take care of people who have been grounded during the pandemic and the rollover would take care of the ones who have been flying, while also making the elite population top-heavy. But if they then add MVP 100K, the levels would be a bit better distributed, with nobody losing the status they had in 2019 but people who did fly in 2020 and 2021 pushed further up the status ladder. Maybe not so goofy as I first though.
#483
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: CA USA
Programs: UA 1K 2.85MM // AS MVPG100K // TK Elite Plus // AA EXP // Bonvoy TE // Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 356
I'm curious to know if that's 100k flown on AS metal, or 100k EQM. The AS website says I have 147,381 EQM, 154k Partner miles and 61 segments. (Zero rollover from 2020) Based on that, I'm guessing I'm still about 1,800 miles short of 100k actual flown, meaning I'm going to have to book a quick SEA-LAX-SEA run to get over 100k actual AS flown.
So tired of chasing these carrots without actually being fed useful information on qualification levels.
So tired of chasing these carrots without actually being fed useful information on qualification levels.
Sooooo...AS levels no longer care whether you have flown AS or OW partners, BUT they do have a segment minimum AS metal for each level.
#484
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: CA USA
Programs: UA 1K 2.85MM // AS MVPG100K // TK Elite Plus // AA EXP // Bonvoy TE // Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 356
Bear in mind it makes some sense to align levels as closely to AA as possible...especially if granting reciprocal upgrade benefits. And, we were told this partnership between AS and AA is closer than a standard OW partnership. For reference, AA's requirements and levels along with AS levels and requirements are:
OW Ruby // AA Gold (25K EQM or 30 EQS) // AS MVP (20K EQM or 30 EQS)
OW Sapphire // AA Platinum (50K EQM or 60 EQS) // AS MVP Gold (40K EQM or 60 EQS)
OW Emerald // AA Platinum Pro (75K EQM or 90 EQS) // AS MVP Gold 75 (75K EQM or 90 EQS)
OW Emerald // AA Executive Platinum (100 EQM or 120 EQS) // AS 100K? (100K EQM or 120 EQS?) (the EQS here is just a guess as nothing formal was announced yet)
I would therefore expect AS to raise the requirement for MVP to 25K EQM and MVP Gold to go to 50K EQM sometime soon...probably for qualification during 2022.
Also note that AA has EQD requirements that AS does not...so hopefully AS does not also adopt that any time soon...the current system is better for most I assume, and one of the last airline programs that still rewards based on miles not dollars.
Alaska does have minimum requirements for flying on AS metal at each level. They're listed as:
MVP - 2
MVP Gold - 4
MVP Gold 75 - 6
MVP 100K? - 24 (this is what I was told...which is a big jump from the required 6 for 75K - this is surely done to keep top elites on AS metal as much as possible)
OW Ruby // AA Gold (25K EQM or 30 EQS) // AS MVP (20K EQM or 30 EQS)
OW Sapphire // AA Platinum (50K EQM or 60 EQS) // AS MVP Gold (40K EQM or 60 EQS)
OW Emerald // AA Platinum Pro (75K EQM or 90 EQS) // AS MVP Gold 75 (75K EQM or 90 EQS)
OW Emerald // AA Executive Platinum (100 EQM or 120 EQS) // AS 100K? (100K EQM or 120 EQS?) (the EQS here is just a guess as nothing formal was announced yet)
I would therefore expect AS to raise the requirement for MVP to 25K EQM and MVP Gold to go to 50K EQM sometime soon...probably for qualification during 2022.
Also note that AA has EQD requirements that AS does not...so hopefully AS does not also adopt that any time soon...the current system is better for most I assume, and one of the last airline programs that still rewards based on miles not dollars.
Alaska does have minimum requirements for flying on AS metal at each level. They're listed as:
MVP - 2
MVP Gold - 4
MVP Gold 75 - 6
MVP 100K? - 24 (this is what I was told...which is a big jump from the required 6 for 75K - this is surely done to keep top elites on AS metal as much as possible)
#485
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: LA/NY/CHI
Programs: AA EXP, AS 100K, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Plat
Posts: 1,876
I know this is a little OT, but since we're talking about 50% accelerator/status extensions, does anyone have insight on whether the former will be extended thru BoY and/or if the latter is likely to come?
#486
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 165
Thinking about this a bit more, rolling out MVP 100K for the 2022 qualification year with 2021 EQM rolled over would make a certain amount of sense as part of a strategy for taking care of both elites who haven't been flying during the pandemic and those who have. There's been speculation about whether AS will extend 2019 status again or roll over EQM again. If they did both, the extension would take care of people who have been grounded during the pandemic and the rollover would take care of the ones who have been flying, while also making the elite population top-heavy. But if they then add MVP 100K, the levels would be a bit better distributed, with nobody losing the status they had in 2019 but people who did fly in 2020 and 2021 pushed further up the status ladder. Maybe not so goofy as I first though.
I didn’t fly in 2020, but fly a lot in 2021.
One thing to keep in mind is that not every elite is a US citizen or green card holder, as a result, many international destinations are off the table at this time.
#487
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: SFO
Programs: AS 75K (OW), SK Silver (*A), UR, MR
Posts: 3,347
Alaska does have minimum requirements for flying on AS metal at each level. They're listed as:
MVP - 2
MVP Gold - 4
MVP Gold 75 - 6
MVP 100K? - 24 (this is what I was told...which is a big jump from the required 6 for 75K - this is surely done to keep top elites on AS metal as much as possible)
MVP - 2
MVP Gold - 4
MVP Gold 75 - 6
MVP 100K? - 24 (this is what I was told...which is a big jump from the required 6 for 75K - this is surely done to keep top elites on AS metal as much as possible)
#488
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,156
I hope it’s 24 segments or higher. If it’s easy for AS+OW elites to obtain most of their EQM outside of AS, purely AS travelers will be at a great disadvantage.
#489
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: SNA
Posts: 928
Alaska does have minimum requirements for flying on AS metal at each level. They're listed as:
MVP - 2
MVP Gold - 4
MVP Gold 75 - 6
MVP 100K? - 24 (this is what I was told...which is a big jump from the required 6 for 75K - this is surely done to keep top elites on AS metal as much as possible)
MVP - 2
MVP Gold - 4
MVP Gold 75 - 6
MVP 100K? - 24 (this is what I was told...which is a big jump from the required 6 for 75K - this is surely done to keep top elites on AS metal as much as possible)
#490
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Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Over the Bay Bridge, CA
Programs: Jumbo mas
Posts: 38,654
I am ok with that, but if someone flies 100k on AS only and it is less than 24 segments, it would be a low blow not to give the 100k status.
#492
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,156
Aren’t the longest routes around 2,800 miles? 24 segments is only approximately 67,000 BIS miles. You’d need to be in paid first to just break 100,000 miles assuming you only did the longest routes for all segments.
#495
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,156
Hawaii to AK 24 times in First Class with 50% EQM bonus is 150K, 100K would be reachable in 16 segments. Though, I imagine most AS elites aren’t FF to Hawaii like some of us. 🤙🏻