Cathay Pacific (CX) Award Redemption, Booking and Availability (2019-2022)
#1426
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 639
Ok, thanks. In theory, CX is resuming HKG-MEL x3 from late June.
#1427
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: SEA/ORD/ADB
Programs: TK ELPL (*G), AS 100K (OWE), BA Gold (OWE), Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat
Posts: 7,763
Give AS a call and ask - it is definitely feasible in Sabre to put 2 separate tickets on a single PNR, although whether AS policy allows for it is another question
#1428
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
It is technically possible for an airline to do this. I don't know if AS can do it. I do not believe it is possible for one to combine separate existing tickets into one PNR but if you have an existing PNR it should be technically possible to add a second ticket into the first PNR. My question would be when you have two separate tickets in one AS PNR will this show as one CX PNR with two tickets in it or will it generate two separate CX PNRs for the two separate CX tickets?
#1429
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
It is technically possible for an airline to do this. I don't know if AS can do it. I do not believe it is possible for one to combine separate existing tickets into one PNR but if you have an existing PNR it should be technically possible to add a second ticket into the first PNR. My question would be when you have two separate tickets in one AS PNR will this show as one CX PNR with two tickets in it or will it generate two separate CX PNRs for the two separate CX tickets?
I think the issue will be that there is no "fare" for the combined itineraries even if a second ticket was added to the first PNR and couldn't be priced. AS can't ticket MEL-HKG-AMS J for 30K + 50K or F 30K + 70K on CX on one ticket or "account" for it as two tickets under one PNR.
James
#1430
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 20
Preparing to book tyo-hkg-JFK in F for two people anywhere from June 29-july 1st 2021. Am I able to do tyo-hkg as a stopover? I know its hard to get 2 CX F seats so we probably would book one F and one J and hope availability pops up. I read that Cx lets you eat with your companion. If my companion is in J would they still allow them to come eat with me?
Were also looking at HND-JFK on JL F but it looks like you can only book 301 days out after 4/1 2021 which makes finding F availability much harder.
Were also looking at HND-JFK on JL F but it looks like you can only book 301 days out after 4/1 2021 which makes finding F availability much harder.
#1431
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
Preparing to book tyo-hkg-JFK in F for two people anywhere from June 29-july 1st 2021. Am I able to do tyo-hkg as a stopover? I know its hard to get 2 CX F seats so we probably would book one F and one J and hope availability pops up. I read that Cx lets you eat with your companion. If my companion is in J would they still allow them to come eat with me?
Were also looking at HND-JFK on JL F but it looks like you can only book 301 days out after 4/1 2021 which makes finding F availability much harder.
Were also looking at HND-JFK on JL F but it looks like you can only book 301 days out after 4/1 2021 which makes finding F availability much harder.
Dining together is, I believe, in cabin only. My partner and I did fly CX F together YVR-JFK and sat together for dinner. Once the table is folded out, it is pretty tight for the person sitting on the footrest.
If JL F becomes available, the experience is much better than CX, IMHO. Your likelihood of getting 2F is much better too. Your desired flight date is summer. If that is still the time frame that AS joins OW, booking date restrictions should parallel OW partners and hopefully level the playing field.
James
#1432
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SAN, BOS
Programs: AS MVPG100K, BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Plat,
Posts: 2,281
Preparing to book tyo-hkg-JFK in F for two people anywhere from June 29-july 1st 2021. Am I able to do tyo-hkg as a stopover? I know its hard to get 2 CX F seats so we probably would book one F and one J and hope availability pops up. I read that Cx lets you eat with your companion. If my companion is in J would they still allow them to come eat with me?
Were also looking at HND-JFK on JL F but it looks like you can only book 301 days out after 4/1 2021 which makes finding F availability much harder.
Were also looking at HND-JFK on JL F but it looks like you can only book 301 days out after 4/1 2021 which makes finding F availability much harder.
#1433
#1434
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,575
Starting to think about late spring / early summer 2021: rebooking the 3-city Asia trip that we had to cancel this past March, using CX miles.
My question is more general: has there been any significant structural or process change to booking CX using AS miles? I get the uncertainty about which flights and equipment types might operate, but my itin would probably use the LAX or SFO gateways where it seems likely that *some* flights should exist next year.
We had relatively little difficulty getting 4x Premium Economy for this past March. Would probably do that again, knowing that 4J is vastly more difficult. Two kids with us...we'd survive P.E. The Asian cities were going to be SIN, HKG, BKK but we might shuffle that a bit...it'd still be large, mainline CX destinations.
I'm mainly just interested if the CX award game has gotten vastly more difficult or different in any way, given that there are probably fewer flights published 11 months out than normal.
My question is more general: has there been any significant structural or process change to booking CX using AS miles? I get the uncertainty about which flights and equipment types might operate, but my itin would probably use the LAX or SFO gateways where it seems likely that *some* flights should exist next year.
We had relatively little difficulty getting 4x Premium Economy for this past March. Would probably do that again, knowing that 4J is vastly more difficult. Two kids with us...we'd survive P.E. The Asian cities were going to be SIN, HKG, BKK but we might shuffle that a bit...it'd still be large, mainline CX destinations.
I'm mainly just interested if the CX award game has gotten vastly more difficult or different in any way, given that there are probably fewer flights published 11 months out than normal.
#1435
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SAN, BOS
Programs: AS MVPG100K, BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Plat,
Posts: 2,281
Starting to think about late spring / early summer 2021: rebooking the 3-city Asia trip that we had to cancel this past March, using CX miles.
My question is more general: has there been any significant structural or process change to booking CX using AS miles? I get the uncertainty about which flights and equipment types might operate, but my itin would probably use the LAX or SFO gateways where it seems likely that *some* flights should exist next year.
We had relatively little difficulty getting 4x Premium Economy for this past March. Would probably do that again, knowing that 4J is vastly more difficult. Two kids with us...we'd survive P.E. The Asian cities were going to be SIN, HKG, BKK but we might shuffle that a bit...it'd still be large, mainline CX destinations.
I'm mainly just interested if the CX award game has gotten vastly more difficult or different in any way, given that there are probably fewer flights published 11 months out than normal.
My question is more general: has there been any significant structural or process change to booking CX using AS miles? I get the uncertainty about which flights and equipment types might operate, but my itin would probably use the LAX or SFO gateways where it seems likely that *some* flights should exist next year.
We had relatively little difficulty getting 4x Premium Economy for this past March. Would probably do that again, knowing that 4J is vastly more difficult. Two kids with us...we'd survive P.E. The Asian cities were going to be SIN, HKG, BKK but we might shuffle that a bit...it'd still be large, mainline CX destinations.
I'm mainly just interested if the CX award game has gotten vastly more difficult or different in any way, given that there are probably fewer flights published 11 months out than normal.
#1436
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,397
OP: scheduling 11 months out is ?????. Assume it’s polite fiction, book what you can get and prepare for it to be changed.
#1437
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Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 63
There is no full F on intra-asia and for the foreseeable future they wont be using aircraft that offer it either
#1438
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,575
CX never had intra-Asia stopovers. You’re confusing CX on AS miles with JL or SQ. CX still has stopovers in HKG on a North America-Asia itinerary, which is what OP is trying to plan.
OP: scheduling 11 months out is ?????. Assume it’s polite fiction, book what you can get and prepare for it to be changed.
OP: scheduling 11 months out is ?????. Assume it’s polite fiction, book what you can get and prepare for it to be changed.
I realize 11 months out is subject to lots of changes. A year ago when I did this, I was able to get the 4 premium economy seats each way on the long-hauls and a mix of Y and PE on the short flights. I then received about 4 different schedule change emails over the course of 9 months as equipment changed and times bounced around by a few minutes here and there, but the main part - PE for the TPAC - remained intact. I would definitely prioritize SFO and LAX as my gateways, given that those two are the least likely to be drastically impacted by changes.
#1439
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,397
Correct - the only stopover that would be part of the itin would be HKG either going or coming. For example, a NA-SIN / BKK-NA award with an HKG stopover one way and buy cheap tickets for the SIN/BKK part.
I realize 11 months out is subject to lots of changes. A year ago when I did this, I was able to get the 4 premium economy seats each way on the long-hauls and a mix of Y and PE on the short flights. I then received about 4 different schedule change emails over the course of 9 months as equipment changed and times bounced around by a few minutes here and there, but the main part - PE for the TPAC - remained intact. I would definitely prioritize SFO and LAX as my gateways, given that those two are the least likely to be drastically impacted by changes.
I realize 11 months out is subject to lots of changes. A year ago when I did this, I was able to get the 4 premium economy seats each way on the long-hauls and a mix of Y and PE on the short flights. I then received about 4 different schedule change emails over the course of 9 months as equipment changed and times bounced around by a few minutes here and there, but the main part - PE for the TPAC - remained intact. I would definitely prioritize SFO and LAX as my gateways, given that those two are the least likely to be drastically impacted by changes.
#1440
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Toronto (YYZ)
Posts: 6,279
Has Alaska Airlines stopped waiving the $15 for over the phone fee for Cathay Pacific awards? Just tried making a award booking on CX and agent said $15 fee applies. I pushed back and told her that the fee is waived for CX bookings due to the fact it's not bookable on their website. Agent checked with supervisor and it was a no go.
Anyone have the same problem?
Anyone have the same problem?