What's Up With Limited "U" Availability?
Nov 2, 2018, 6:30 pm
#151
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On my SEA-LAX flight yesterday 9 of 16 seats were spoken for before OLCI commenced, 1P and 6F for sale, 5 upgrades at T-2. Looks like they sold 2 before complimentary upgrades were processed. In your reference to a wide open cabin, I anticipate you are talking about Airbii flights. I don't see a lot of wide open F cabins on the Boeing flights at OLCI. That will eventually iron itself out when the 8F cabins are reconfigured. James
Nov 2, 2018, 6:37 pm
#152
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No, really???? I never got that from any of your posts...... On my SEA-LAX flight yesterday 9 of 16 seats were spoken for before OLCI commenced, 1P and 6F for sale, 5 upgrades at T-2. Looks like they sold 2 before complimentary upgrades were processed. In your reference to a wide open cabin, I anticipate you are talking about Airbii flights. I don't see a lot of wide open F cabins on the Boeing flights at OLCI. That will eventually iron itself out when the 8F cabins are reconfigured.
James
On my SEA-LAX flight yesterday 9 of 16 seats were spoken for before OLCI commenced, 1P and 6F for sale, 5 upgrades at T-2. Looks like they sold 2 before complimentary upgrades were processed. In your reference to a wide open cabin, I anticipate you are talking about Airbii flights. I don't see a lot of wide open F cabins on the Boeing flights at OLCI. That will eventually iron itself out when the 8F cabins are reconfigured.James
Nov 2, 2018, 9:53 pm
#153
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No, really???? I never got that from any of your posts...... On my SEA-LAX flight yesterday 9 of 16 seats were spoken for before OLCI commenced, 1P and 6F for sale, 5 upgrades at T-2. Looks like they sold 2 before complimentary upgrades were processed. In your reference to a wide open cabin, I anticipate you are talking about Airbii flights. I don't see a lot of wide open F cabins on the Boeing flights at OLCI. That will eventually iron itself out when the 8F cabins are reconfigured.
James
On my SEA-LAX flight yesterday 9 of 16 seats were spoken for before OLCI commenced, 1P and 6F for sale, 5 upgrades at T-2. Looks like they sold 2 before complimentary upgrades were processed. In your reference to a wide open cabin, I anticipate you are talking about Airbii flights. I don't see a lot of wide open F cabins on the Boeing flights at OLCI. That will eventually iron itself out when the 8F cabins are reconfigured.James
Nov 2, 2018, 10:13 pm
#154
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RM as a whole seems to be screwed up, and whether that's by design or not is the real question on this whole topic. Surely they're aware of the magnitude of this problem and I'm very curious as to what resolution lies in wait, or what bigger changes this forebodes.
Nov 2, 2018, 11:06 pm
#155
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Maybe swapping in Airbus for Boeing, or the possibility of that? Perhaps RM is closing it down until the cross fleeting is figured out or the cabins are reconfigured? As much as it bugs me, it's easier to release seats later than involuntarily downgrade people.
Nov 3, 2018, 4:45 am
#156
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They also removed U availability from regional jet routes, which aren’t being impacted by reconfiguration.
Nov 3, 2018, 8:43 am
#158
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Nov 3, 2018, 10:16 am
#159
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Nov 3, 2018, 10:44 am
#160
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Nov 3, 2018, 10:52 am
#161
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1) Maximizing revenue by selling the seats as long as possible
2) Minimizing the impact of equipment/configuration swaps
3) Minimizing the list jumping and out of order processing that has been going on for years
At this point, I'm pretty convinced that no one at AS truly understands how the process works/doesn't work from end to end -- nor do the various VPs or Officers care about fixing it, since they see it as a giveaway/cost center rather than a critical loyalty perk.
Nov 3, 2018, 11:40 am
#163
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As 75k, don't you usually get upgraded anyway? I've never been 75k (but I have a tentative plan for next year) but people talk about something like 19/20 upgrades (can't remember what thread I read that in -- possibly this one)
As 75k you should be happy that U isn't available... you won't have MVPG's using their GGUs to take an F seat that would otherwise end up going to you
As 75k you should be happy that U isn't available... you won't have MVPG's using their GGUs to take an F seat that would otherwise end up going to you
Nov 3, 2018, 11:47 am
#164
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Is there a better source of Alaska fare bucket availability - maybe KVS?
Thanks!
Last edited by Manoa Chris; Nov 3, 2018 at 2:34 pm Reason: Grammar!
Nov 3, 2018, 11:50 am
#165
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If upgrade processing was more consistent, I would agree with you. As it stands, I can be first on the upgrade list and still not get the upgrade thanks to the flaws in the process (especially the lag between U inventory opening at T-2 hours and upgrades actually clearing). I don't think most of us have the time to counter all the opportunities for lower-tier elites to game the system, let alone the scattered reports of paid upgrades being offered before elite upgrades can clear.
The gaming and selling are real, there's no doubt about that.