Condor (DE) Partnership (Announced 3/20/2017)
#286
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Condor applied for a loan from the German government, per this article, if Google Translate is correct. Perhaps their creditors are waiting to see if that goes through?
https://www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtscha...eite-1.4612157
There are some early morning flights due to depart from FRA in about 30 minutes; I will be curious to see if they actually take off.
https://www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtscha...eite-1.4612157
There are some early morning flights due to depart from FRA in about 30 minutes; I will be curious to see if they actually take off.
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FT thread Thomas Cook Enters Compulsory Liquidation
https://thomascook.caa.co.uk/
What happens to Condor is another question
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condor_(airline)
https://thomascook.caa.co.uk/
What happens to Condor is another question
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condor_(airline)
Condor, legally incorporated as Condor Flugdienst GmbH, is a German leisure airline based in Frankfurt and a subsidiary of the insolvent Thomas Cook Group. It operated scheduled flights to leisure destinations in the Mediterranean, Asia, Africa, North America, South America, and the Caribbean. Its main base was at Frankfurt Airport with further smaller bases at other German airports
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#289
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Ironically when Air Berlin applied for state aid Germania sued to stop it. Then both ended up disappearing. They will be hard pressed now to save Condor but it gives then at least one more day to fly as they await an answer--though with insolvency in the UK and bankruptcy declared in the US, it will be interesting to see how they avoid getting their planes repossessed.
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DE2427 just took off a few minutes ago from YXY, DE2091 from PDX about 40 minutes now. Will be interesting to see if the outbounds from FRA operate today.
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To bring things slightly back on-topic, if Condor goes bust, I wonder what Alaska will do for people on award tickets who are in the middle of their trip?
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Technically, I think they are only obligated to refund the miles and taxes. For customer service reasons, they may try to work out something with another partner but with AA/BA heavily focused on UK to US flights, there will be stiff competition already with those stranded without insurance to get on flights which were already nearly full. The best day to travel through London presumably would be on the 27th as the BA strike that day has been cancelled and many passengers had already been rebooked on other days.
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Looking at Frankfurt airport’s departure page, all listed Condor flights this (Monday) morning appear to be boarding and/or departing.
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#295
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Deutsche Welle's English site officially says they are looking for a government loan--
"German charter airline Condor, which comes under the insolvent travel operator's umbrella, has applied for a bridging loan from the government. The carrier also said that, for now, flights will remain operational."
https://www.dw.com/en/uk-travel-gian...ngs/a-50543024
"German charter airline Condor, which comes under the insolvent travel operator's umbrella, has applied for a bridging loan from the government. The carrier also said that, for now, flights will remain operational."
https://www.dw.com/en/uk-travel-gian...ngs/a-50543024
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Ironically when Air Berlin applied for state aid Germania sued to stop it. Then both ended up disappearing. They will be hard pressed now to save Condor but it gives then at least one more day to fly as they await an answer--though with insolvency in the UK and bankruptcy declared in the US, it will be interesting to see how they avoid getting their planes repossessed.
https://www.ifn.news/posts/air-berli...vernment-loan/
I would be surprised if Condor would not receive similar support, given the number of jobs involved and the number of travelers potentially affected.
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Yikes, you know, AS can't seem to sort out award flights on Icelandair, BA are not reliable for the immediate future anyway, Condor is definitely questionable so that leaves Finnair as Aer Lingus has some totally ridiculous "prices" and AA only have econ (at least that I've ever seen). I moved my flights to London in October to Emirates after trying to get a couple of Condor seats.....sometimes good luck comes along! Long trip but done in J and F so not at all uncomfortable! Wondering what will happen over the next months and what options for redemption to Europe we will have?
#298
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I have/had a Condor paid ticket from FRA to Seattle for Christmas. When I try to look at my reservation now, the page just errors out and says it's not working right now. Could just be website traffic overload, but still.......
Last year, just two days before I was to fly Cobalt Aero from Dusseldorf to Cyprus with a friend, they went t*ts up as well. I'm grateful for credit card coverage.
Hope all the people mid-trip at the moment get home safely and with minimal aggravation.....
Last year, just two days before I was to fly Cobalt Aero from Dusseldorf to Cyprus with a friend, they went t*ts up as well. I'm grateful for credit card coverage.
Hope all the people mid-trip at the moment get home safely and with minimal aggravation.....
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[EDIT] Thomas Cook officially done this evening, no message on Condor but.... https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/22/b...pse/index.html
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Officially done this evening: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/22/b...pse/index.html