Dec 6, 2016, 7:53 pm
Last edit by: DoubleWidesFly
Wiki for using AS (Alaska) miles on JL (Japan Airlines)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread - 2019 and Earlier
Mar 1, 2017, 8:57 pm
#91
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90+% of everyone doesn't book airline tickets more than 3 months in advance, so I wouldn't expect an airline to optimize for the "I'm the obsessive FT nerd who has an EF subscription and is going to adjust my 11 months out award 14 times between now and when I fly" case.
Mar 2, 2017, 7:41 am
#93
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90+% of everyone doesn't book airline tickets more than 3 months in advance, so I wouldn't expect an airline to optimize for the "I'm the obsessive FT nerd who has an EF subscription and is going to adjust my 11 months out award 14 times between now and when I fly" case.
Reminds me i need to cancel a few reservations.
Mar 2, 2017, 11:07 pm
#94
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I don't think that this showed up in the thread in the specific instance. When booking a one-way nonstop JAL award from Asia to Asia (Tokyo to Singapore), there is availability in premium Y (seen on BA, JAL, and AS), and while the JAL award chart on the AS website says that Asia to Asia in premium Y is 17.5k, the award on the AS search is listed as Partner Business, but then says it's a mixed cabin award with the segment in premium Y. Given that this is a one way, why is it saying it's a mixed cabin and pricing premium Y as business? Do you think I can call AS and book the award for the 17.5k price?
Mar 3, 2017, 5:44 am
#95
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I don't think that this showed up in the thread in the specific instance. When booking a one-way nonstop JAL award from Asia to Asia (Tokyo to Singapore), there is availability in premium Y (seen on BA, JAL, and AS), and while the JAL award chart on the AS website says that Asia to Asia in premium Y is 17.5k, the award on the AS search is listed as Partner Business, but then says it's a mixed cabin award with the segment in premium Y. Given that this is a one way, why is it saying it's a mixed cabin and pricing premium Y as business? Do you think I can call AS and book the award for the 17.5k price?
Something changed in February. Alaska stopped showing premium y as a separate category and lumped it into business(and charging business points)
You could try calling in and arguing for the correct award chart for premium y, ymmv.
Mar 3, 2017, 8:24 am
#96
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Hopefully they will fix this programming error. Premium shows up just fine with other partners who have had the option for years like Qantas. It's new to online awards of the Asia region (I don't count CX since its not bookable online, its booked from a different system)
Mar 9, 2017, 8:20 pm
#98
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Mar 10, 2017, 6:57 pm
#99
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one more thing:
Alaska's award chart for JAL no longer shows PE
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...rd-charts.aspx
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after:
Alaska's award chart for JAL no longer shows PE
https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...rd-charts.aspx
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after:
Mar 10, 2017, 7:46 pm
#100
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Mar 14, 2017, 1:20 am
#101
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Here's another oddity I've found:
Search for ORD-NRT: available in F
Search for (next day) NRT-SIN: available in J
Search for ORD-SIN: only available option is ORD-NRT in F with connection to SIN... in coach! On the flight that said it had J wide open!
I might try calling this one in at some point.
Search for ORD-NRT: available in F
Search for (next day) NRT-SIN: available in J
Search for ORD-SIN: only available option is ORD-NRT in F with connection to SIN... in coach! On the flight that said it had J wide open!
I might try calling this one in at some point.
Mar 14, 2017, 10:17 am
#102
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Weird. Anyone who booked a PE award that got charged biz prices get an adjustment? No surprise PE was removed, way too cheap.
Mar 14, 2017, 10:36 am
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Mar 14, 2017, 11:34 am
#104
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Perhaps someone should pose a question on the Missy thread on this PE topic.