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Wiki for using AS (Alaska) miles on JL (Japan Airlines)

All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport

Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip

U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
~~Premium 40,000 80,000~~
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000

U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
~~Premium 45,000 90,000~~
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000

Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
~~Premium 17,500 35,000~~
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000

International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK

USA

Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA

Canada
Vancouver - YVR

Asia

Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN

Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)

Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread - 2019 and Earlier

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Feb 24, 2017, 11:41 am

#76

stompey5

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Has anyone had their stopover in the states? Looking to go TYO-NYC-ZZZ where I'd add on a segment at a later time. Additionally, if you are redeeming for JL J, does the AS leg need to be in saver Y or F?

Feb 24, 2017, 3:09 pm

#77

beckoa

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stompey5

AS generally doesn't allow backtracking across the country, so I'm not sure where you were planning on flying to after JFK. Now if you wanted a stopover on the West Coast that should be possible.

And yes, a connecting award would need to be in saver F (A class) or saver Y (W class).

Feb 25, 2017, 4:14 pm

#78

pentiumvi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beckoa

And yes, a connecting award would need to be in saver F (A class) or saver Y (W class).

How can one determine whether saver F/Y are available for particular AS flight?

When I try to do an award flight search, I just get a list of flights with different mileage requirements. Do I just assume the lowest points required is the "saver" fare?

Also, if booking an AS award flight which involves a connection to one of their partner airlines, how do I determine which AS fare class I am eligible to use?
(ie. Partner Y award I assume will only be able to book Y award on the AS segment. What about partner J award?)

Thanks

Feb 25, 2017, 8:55 pm

#79

stompey5

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beckoa

Thanks. Happen to know if I take my stopover in TYO if AS allows flying into HND and out of NRT?

Feb 25, 2017, 9:00 pm

#80

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stompey5

Thanks. Happen to know if I take my stopover in TYO if AS allows flying into HND and out of NRT?

I think these are coterminals for JL. So should work.

Feb 26, 2017, 10:39 am

#81

mrtrip

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removed.

Last edited by mrtrip; Mar 2, 2017 at 7:34 am

Feb 26, 2017, 11:56 am

#82

Kieron

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Location: Sunny Seattle

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Posts: 539

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtrip

Is it possible to have the route as a single one way award with stop? SGN-TYO(stop)BKK?
I checked online and it cost 50k in C so like two seperate award.

Generally, not unless it's a route that the airline would normally price as a through itinerary on a paid ticket. JAL does not have a single fare for that city pair (which makes sense, since it's not a rational routing for SGN-BKK) and so it would indeed need to be two awards.

On the other hand, something like SGN-TYO, stop, TYO-CTS would be fine on a single one-way award.

Feb 28, 2017, 10:28 am

#83

mrtrip

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Last edited by mrtrip; Mar 2, 2017 at 7:34 am

Mar 1, 2017, 6:45 am

#84

Far Siren

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I just booked a JFK-TYO-DEL itinerary. I can see both legs fine on Alaska's website, but the first segment (JFK-TYO) is not showing up on the JAL website. Called JAL and was informed Alaska needs to "reissue/reconfirm" the ticket, which they did. It's still not showing up. Anyone has any ideas as to what the issue might be?

Mar 1, 2017, 8:31 am

#85

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pentiumvi

How can one determine whether saver F/Y are available for particular AS flight?

Do an award search?

Generally speaking, the award engine will include the Alaska segments with the JAL segments. For example, if there was no F or Y award inventory available out of SEA to any JAL gateway, you would see no JAL availability out of SEA, but might see it out of SFO, YVR, LAX, SAN, etc. If there was only Y but no F you could see the AS segment in Y as a mixed cabin award, and the JAL segment in whatever premium cabin was available.

Note: if AS has F award availability but no Y, a JAL award where the JL segment is in coach would price as J, as a mixed cabin award.

Mar 1, 2017, 6:51 pm

#86

paperwastage

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I guess more alaska(and JAL) IT issues

alaska blocked online access to my reservation due to schedule change (need to call in and confirm, and block was removed)

looking up confirmation code via JAL website, shows that flight is delayed 1+ hours.

neither alaska or JAL emailed me (both have my email for flight alerts).
both airlines still shows the non-delayed departure time when searching for a clean award/paid ticket

Last edited by paperwastage; Mar 1, 2017 at 7:05 pm

Mar 1, 2017, 7:28 pm

#87

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paperwastage

The schedule change lockout thing has been normal for several years even for a 1 minute change on all partners. Some AS can be accepted online

Are you talking about 1+ hour schedule change because delays don't show when you book flights on any carrier. There is always a separate flight status section you need to look at.

Mar 1, 2017, 7:43 pm

#88

paperwastage

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CDKing

Are you talking about 1+ hour schedule change because delays don't show when you book flights on any carrier. There is always a separate flight status section you need to look at.

I'm expecting Alaska (and JAL) to contact me (email/phone) when schedules change

they didn't. alaska just blocked my online access (I'm fine with it if they blocked online AND contacted me via email/phone)

(granted, flight is months away... so it's a scheduled delay?)

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/ab...e-changes.aspx

Quote:

Customer service commitment
We will notify you about changes in your travel

We promise to promptly notify you of any schedule changes. You can help us contact you by ensuring your reservation contains:

Home Phone Number
Mobile Number
Email Address
We promise to update you if a schedule change results in a new time more than 10 minutes from original departure or more than 15 minutes from original arrival. Except for cancellation notices, notifications will only arrive between 9:00 a.m. and 9:00 p.m. (PT)

Mar 1, 2017, 7:46 pm

#89

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paperwastage

I'm expecting Alaska (and JAL) to contact me (email/phone) when schedules change

they didn't. alaska just blocked my online access (which is fine if they also informed me via email/phone)

(granted, flight is months away)

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/ab...e-changes.aspx

AS does send notification out but closer in as they work them. I always get the email advising of a schedule change once it gets to a few months out. I never call on them when i see them, i always wait for AS to do it and they do. The SOP is the same for all flights ticketed by AS.

Mar 1, 2017, 7:51 pm

#90

paperwastage

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CDKing

well, I'm checking if award seats open in a day that fits my schedule better

so it makes sense for me to unblock online access, so that I can change immediately when necessary