Dec 6, 2016, 7:53 pm
Last edit by: DoubleWidesFly
Wiki for using AS (Alaska) miles on JL (Japan Airlines)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments)
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(as of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
Class of Service One-way Round-trip
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SEA, SFO, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread - 2019 and Earlier
Apr 4, 2019, 4:24 pm
#811
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 93
I called Alaska, was put through to Boise center, agent wouldnt transfer me to the international desk (which I'd read someone advised to try) and then tells me that they cant make bookings from SIN-HIJ as it doesnt depart from US or Canada and they can only book flights that leave US/Canada. After a while she comes back and says their handbook says they cant do it, the supervisor says they cant do it but she checked with a fake booking (in april) and it worked, but the dates I want are apparently not available, for reasons unknown.
I'd had enough of this shambles cos the cost of having to do international calls all the time wasnt worth the points, so just booked SIN-HND. BA show availability for the HND-HIJ segment on avios, but when trying to book that, it also errored so the issue appears to be with booking JAL domestics - flight is in october, do they block domestic bookings that 'far' ahead or something?
I'd had enough of this shambles cos the cost of having to do international calls all the time wasnt worth the points, so just booked SIN-HND. BA show availability for the HND-HIJ segment on avios, but when trying to book that, it also errored so the issue appears to be with booking JAL domestics - flight is in october, do they block domestic bookings that 'far' ahead or something?
Apr 4, 2019, 5:06 pm
#812
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
I called Alaska, was put through to Boise center, agent wouldnt transfer me to the international desk (which I'd read someone advised to try) and then tells me that they cant make bookings from SIN-HIJ as it doesnt depart from US or Canada and they can only book flights that leave US/Canada. After a while she comes back and says their handbook says they cant do it, the supervisor says they cant do it but she checked with a fake booking (in april) and it worked, but the dates I want are apparently not available, for reasons unknown.
I'd had enough of this shambles cos the cost of having to do international calls all the time wasnt worth the points, so just booked SIN-HND. BA show availability for the HND-HIJ segment on avios, but when trying to book that, it also errored so the issue appears to be with booking JAL domestics - flight is in october, do they block domestic bookings that 'far' ahead or something?
I'd had enough of this shambles cos the cost of having to do international calls all the time wasnt worth the points, so just booked SIN-HND. BA show availability for the HND-HIJ segment on avios, but when trying to book that, it also errored so the issue appears to be with booking JAL domestics - flight is in october, do they block domestic bookings that 'far' ahead or something?
The search engines are messing up. Maybe something to do with the latest JAL system updates to implement a 360 day booking window?
Apr 22, 2019, 1:07 pm
#813
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SAN, BOS
Programs: AS MVPG100K, BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Plat,
Posts: 2,281
Hey guys
I’m flying F later this summer NRT - ORD with an AS connection at ORD later in the day to SFO
Will I have access to AA Flagship Lounge?
I’m flying F later this summer NRT - ORD with an AS connection at ORD later in the day to SFO
Will I have access to AA Flagship Lounge?
Apr 22, 2019, 1:12 pm
#814
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Pacific Wonderland
Programs: ʙᴏɴᴠo̱ʏ Au, IHG Au, HH Dia, Nexus, Pilot FlyingJ Preferred
Posts: 5,336
Unlikely, but you could always try! AA/OW rules are that the you have to have an onward OW flight, which AS ORD-SFO isn't.
Apr 23, 2019, 5:04 am
#815
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 103
is it possible to change date of second leg after flying first leg?
reward
SIN-Tokyo(stepover)-HKG
for example
SIN-TOKYO flown 1 april
tokyo-HKG booked for 1 september
can I change tokyo-HKG to later date
reward
SIN-Tokyo(stepover)-HKG
for example
SIN-TOKYO flown 1 april
tokyo-HKG booked for 1 september
can I change tokyo-HKG to later date
Apr 24, 2019, 2:16 pm
#816
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: GA
Programs: HH, IHG
Posts: 141
I was trying to do HNL-NRT-SEA (on JAL) and onto BOS in AS. When I book multi-city it cancels out. The segments are all there on the dates I want. Is this possible to book?
Apr 24, 2019, 3:46 pm
#817
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NYC
Programs: AS MVP Gold, BA Silver, AA Gold, Marriott Titanium, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,619
Where do you intend to stop/stopover? If the goal is a trip to Japan, what advantage is there in booking a multicity itinerary rather than just two one-ways, i.e. 1. HNL - TYO, 2. TYO - BOS?
Last edited by jbalmuth; Apr 24, 2019 at 4:54 pm
Apr 24, 2019, 5:11 pm
#818
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Pacific Wonderland
Programs: ʙᴏɴᴠo̱ʏ Au, IHG Au, HH Dia, Nexus, Pilot FlyingJ Preferred
Posts: 5,336
Apr 24, 2019, 5:36 pm
#819
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,392
It's a BIIIIG FINE to use a non-US airline to transport between two US cities (and if you're trying to structure it as a one-way to get a cheap trip to Tokyo as part of a one-way Hawaii-continental US, that would be one reason why that won't work).
Should be OK to do as two one-ways: HNL-NRT, NRT-SEA-BOS.
Apr 24, 2019, 6:08 pm
#820
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
Cabotage aside, I don't think that they are going to let you book what is essentially a round trip (open jaw or not) as a single one-way award.
You mean I can't do LAX-HKG-SFO as a single one way award on AA? Why not?
You mean I can't do LAX-HKG-SFO as a single one way award on AA? Why not?
Last edited by VegasGambler; Apr 24, 2019 at 8:48 pm
Apr 24, 2019, 6:13 pm
#821
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SAN, BOS
Programs: AS MVPG100K, BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Plat,
Posts: 2,281
I have an upcoming trip CGK - NRT - ORD (no stopovers) and want to head back West to SFO, is it possible? I want to fly through ORD because F is available on the day I want in ORD and not SFO...
Apr 24, 2019, 6:33 pm
#822
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Pacific Wonderland
Programs: ʙᴏɴᴠo̱ʏ Au, IHG Au, HH Dia, Nexus, Pilot FlyingJ Preferred
Posts: 5,336
The website will, but a live agent may deny it due to backtracking rules. The bigger problem would be finding saver First/Coach ORD-SFO that can be used with a partner award.
Apr 25, 2019, 12:22 pm
#823
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: GA
Programs: HH, IHG
Posts: 141
I have to get back from Hawaii at the end of our trip and I was trying to tack on either a free segment or stopover somewhere else. The most convenient itin would be LIH-SEA-BOS but:
a. We typically do lie flat for > 5 hours, wife has back issues.
b. Pretty steep for what may be a not-so-great first class experience (80k each).
c. I have been reading and want to try to tack on a free segment later (hard to do with AA & BOS being our destination, as AA doesn't fly a lot of places from there).
a. We typically do lie flat for > 5 hours, wife has back issues.
b. Pretty steep for what may be a not-so-great first class experience (80k each).
c. I have been reading and want to try to tack on a free segment later (hard to do with AA & BOS being our destination, as AA doesn't fly a lot of places from there).
Apr 25, 2019, 1:03 pm
#824
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,392
I have to get back from Hawaii at the end of our trip and I was trying to tack on either a free segment or stopover somewhere else. The most convenient itin would be LIH-SEA-BOS but:
a. We typically do lie flat for > 5 hours, wife has back issues.
b. Pretty steep for what may be a not-so-great first class experience (80k each).
c. I have been reading and want to try to tack on a free segment later (hard to do with AA & BOS being our destination, as AA doesn't fly a lot of places from there).
a. We typically do lie flat for > 5 hours, wife has back issues.
b. Pretty steep for what may be a not-so-great first class experience (80k each).
c. I have been reading and want to try to tack on a free segment later (hard to do with AA & BOS being our destination, as AA doesn't fly a lot of places from there).
Nice try but AS is a bit smarter than that. That's two awards: HNL-NRT, NRT-SEA-BOS. NRT is a destination, not a stopover for LIH-BOS.
Apr 25, 2019, 1:05 pm
#825
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
My original attempt i found JL space as separate one way searches. When i did as multi city with HNL-NRT as departing and NRT - BOS as the return, the only option that came up was KE.
Last edited by CDKing; Apr 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm