Nov 4, 2013, 1:57 pm
Last edit by: Gajan
Between 1 September 2013 and 31 March 2018 the co-branded Gold & Platinum Flying Blue American Express cards also gave you Level Miles for purchases at AF/KL.
The Gold card will give you 1.5 Level Miles & Award Miles for AF/KL purchases; the Platinum card will give you 2 Level Miles & Award miles for AF/KL purchases.
As of 31 March 2018 the Flying Blue American Express co-cards give the main cardholder additional XP's when reaching the membership anniversary:
The Gold card will give you 1.5 Level Miles & Award Miles for AF/KL purchases; the Platinum card will give you 2 Level Miles & Award miles for AF/KL purchases.
As of 31 March 2018 the Flying Blue American Express co-cards give the main cardholder additional XP's when reaching the membership anniversary:
- Silver: 15XP;
- Gold: 30 XP
- Platinum: 60 XP
Co-branded American Express cards: France and the Netherlands
Mar 10, 2018, 9:06 pm
#241
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Is a card conjoint free with the regular Platinum card?
Mar 11, 2018, 3:03 am
#242
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Mar 11, 2018, 3:05 am
#243
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Honestly, what is left in the AFKL platinum amex card that makes it worth 600 euros compared to a regular AMEX plat?
AFKL AMEX PLAT:
60 XP a year (1 international business class roundtrip basically)
Platinum for 2 if you are plat member
annnddd... I'm drawing blanks from here honestly.
The regular amex plat is 100 euro's more expensive, but you still get 1.5 amex points per Euro spent, which you can credit 1:1 towards AFKL miles OR any other program (clear flexibility benefit there), so the award miles earning isn't an incentive here now that level miles are gone.
Added to that, regular AMEX PLAT also gets you priority pass lounge access, which isn't even in the airline-based card.
Time to do a switch I guess
AFKL AMEX PLAT:
60 XP a year (1 international business class roundtrip basically)
Platinum for 2 if you are plat member
annnddd... I'm drawing blanks from here honestly.
The regular amex plat is 100 euro's more expensive, but you still get 1.5 amex points per Euro spent, which you can credit 1:1 towards AFKL miles OR any other program (clear flexibility benefit there), so the award miles earning isn't an incentive here now that level miles are gone.
Added to that, regular AMEX PLAT also gets you priority pass lounge access, which isn't even in the airline-based card.
Time to do a switch I guess
Mar 11, 2018, 2:56 pm
#244
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Mar 12, 2018, 1:51 am
#245
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In the past, all purchases would generate status miles. Then they changed the card (without telling anyone in advance), and no level miles would be generated at all (only free segments).
Then, they backtracked and purchases at AF/KL would (again) generate level miles.
So, maybe they will do the same move once more?
Mar 12, 2018, 1:21 pm
#246
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Looks like an old story, doesn't it?
In the past, all purchases would generate status miles. Then they changed the card (without telling anyone in advance), and no level miles would be generated at all (only free segments).
Then, they backtracked and purchases at AF/KL would (again) generate level miles.
So, maybe they will do the same move once more?
In the past, all purchases would generate status miles. Then they changed the card (without telling anyone in advance), and no level miles would be generated at all (only free segments).
Then, they backtracked and purchases at AF/KL would (again) generate level miles.
So, maybe they will do the same move once more?
In any case, we should keep complaining to them about this removal of a significant benefit.
Mar 13, 2018, 1:44 am
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- Can anybody remember when the limit of max 2 insurance claims per year came into effect ?
- Is there any news if AF/KLM will continue charging a CC fee when their own cardis used. If I am correct this fee has increased by 50%. At the same time I heard that AMEX is in the process of reducing their merchant fees significantly.
- Why is the difference in the number of yearly XPs between gold and platinum so small?
- In cases where the cardholder is Platinum for life, would it be nice to be able to assigning the yearly XPs to aco-cardholder? Most Platinum card benefits have no value for platinum for life members, who mostly travel with their partners.
Mar 13, 2018, 6:00 am
#248
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There is no reason to assume this will happen. As it stands, AMEX is the only card that KLM charge for (in countries where a fee for AMEX is not illegal) at this point.
Mar 14, 2018, 6:25 am
#249
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1) cancel your card
2) let the co-card holder apply for a card himself/herself
3) add you as a card holder
=> the former co-card holder will have the XPs, the miles earned on spending will be added to his/her account : anyway, these miles are not anymore useful for status (moreover, they are not useful at all for a Platinum for Life) and I assume these miles can be used for a common use
Mar 15, 2018, 10:29 am
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In this case, isn't it better to
1) cancel your card
2) let the co-card holder apply for a card himself/herself
3) add you as a card holder
=> the former co-card holder will have the XPs, the miles earned on spending will be added to his/her account : anyway, these miles are not anymore useful for status (moreover, they are not useful at all for a Platinum for Life) and I assume these miles can be used for a common use
1) cancel your card
2) let the co-card holder apply for a card himself/herself
3) add you as a card holder
=> the former co-card holder will have the XPs, the miles earned on spending will be added to his/her account : anyway, these miles are not anymore useful for status (moreover, they are not useful at all for a Platinum for Life) and I assume these miles can be used for a common use
Mar 16, 2018, 7:13 am
#252
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we are talking about the co-"Amex AF/KLM Platinum" card holder, right? Having this card doesn't give the Flying Blue Platinum status AFAIK (but maybe I'm wrong if the main card holder is himself platinum)
Mar 16, 2018, 8:55 am
#253
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"Platinum for 2" is one of the main benefits of the AF/KLM amex platinum card. If the main card holder is platinum, then the co card holder of the plat amex is granted platinum FB status.
Mar 18, 2018, 12:38 am
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On the Spanish and German AF site you used to not have to pay a fee - this seems to have been removed now.