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Jun 18, 2014, 12:34 pm
#271
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AFAIK, currently the Panorama terrace is undergoing maintenance to facilitate new/bigger lounges for Servisair and British Airways.
The new 777 seats are an excuse to make the 772 10-abreast too in Y.
The new 777 seats are an excuse to make the 772 10-abreast too in Y.
Jun 18, 2014, 1:32 pm
#272
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I think KL and AF would prefer more differentiation, but they have to follow Skyteam rules. I get the impression that DL doesn't want to change these rules. Another area of contention, at least for AF, is priority boarding. Practically half the plane is Skyteam Priority these days, especially for flights to the US.
Jun 18, 2014, 1:59 pm
#273
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Following rules is for sissies.
I would venture that anything inherited from FD is by definition better that what FB has come up with.
Like the Y snacks on KL shorthaul?
Johan
I would venture that anything inherited from FD is by definition better that what FB has come up with.
Like the Y snacks on KL shorthaul?
Johan
Jun 24, 2014, 2:49 pm
#274
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"Dit jaar bereikten in Nederland 177 Flying Blueleden deze status, waarmee het totaal aantal deelnemers op 7.407 is gekomen."
Johan
Jun 24, 2014, 2:51 pm
#275
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According to luchtvaartnieuws.nl 177 Dutch members became LTPE this year, bringing the total to 7,407.
Jun 26, 2014, 12:17 pm
#276
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According to luchtvaartnieuws.nl 177 Dutch members became LTPE this year, bringing the total to 7,407.
"Dit jaar bereikten in Nederland 177 Flying Blueleden deze status, waarmee het totaal aantal deelnemers op 7.407 is gekomen."
Johan
"Dit jaar bereikten in Nederland 177 Flying Blueleden deze status, waarmee het totaal aantal deelnemers op 7.407 is gekomen."
Johan
Jun 26, 2014, 3:48 pm
#277
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Not sure.
Assuming a steady rate of about 177 per year, there is no way Dutch LTPEs could account for that total. The number in the first year must have been substantially higher though, as all those with 10+ years would all have qualified immediately.
Johan
Assuming a steady rate of about 177 per year, there is no way Dutch LTPEs could account for that total. The number in the first year must have been substantially higher though, as all those with 10+ years would all have qualified immediately.
Johan
Jun 29, 2014, 3:42 am
#278
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Jun 29, 2014, 4:46 am
#279
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My guess is that the amount of LTPE is decreasing every year (death and cancellation) unless FB will start to put FB status up for sale.
Jun 29, 2014, 6:13 am
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Yes, the 4700 is worldwide. In talking to some FB people they don't think that number will rise dramatically, but they concede that rollover miles will help some people achieve LTP status easier.
Jun 29, 2014, 9:12 am
#282
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Jun 29, 2014, 4:04 pm
#283
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No, 4700 is what we were told by the KLM CEO. I see now that I accidently acknowledged the 7407 mentioned above. Sorry about that.
But who knows for sure? Personally I don't care if the number is 4700 or 7400. It doesn't make much of a difference to me.
But who knows for sure? Personally I don't care if the number is 4700 or 7400. It doesn't make much of a difference to me.
Jun 30, 2014, 1:26 am
#284
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Interesting.
Be it 7000 or 4000, it is still a very low number compared to the 77 million passengers they had last year.
Knowing the number makes me feel quite special - certainly a lot more so than anything AF actually does or says...
Interestingly, a colleague of mine was recently meeting a client for lunch in a downtown Paris hotel (don't know which one) and there was some big AF do going on, being as interested as the rest of us - he spied a little. Seems it was a workshop with a lot of LTPE guests and Club 2000 members to get their feedback and thank them for their loyalty... He even saw AdJ!
Personally, I'd settle for an empty middle seat on non-full flights, but don't even get that.
Be it 7000 or 4000, it is still a very low number compared to the 77 million passengers they had last year.
Knowing the number makes me feel quite special - certainly a lot more so than anything AF actually does or says...
Interestingly, a colleague of mine was recently meeting a client for lunch in a downtown Paris hotel (don't know which one) and there was some big AF do going on, being as interested as the rest of us - he spied a little. Seems it was a workshop with a lot of LTPE guests and Club 2000 members to get their feedback and thank them for their loyalty... He even saw AdJ!
Personally, I'd settle for an empty middle seat on non-full flights, but don't even get that.
Jul 2, 2014, 10:03 pm
#285
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Interesting.
Be it 7000 or 4000, it is still a very low number compared to the 77 million passengers they had last year.
Knowing the number makes me feel quite special - certainly a lot more so than anything AF actually does or says...
Interestingly, a colleague of mine was recently meeting a client for lunch in a downtown Paris hotel (don't know which one) and there was some big AF do going on, being as interested as the rest of us - he spied a little. Seems it was a workshop with a lot of LTPE guests and Club 2000 members to get their feedback and thank them for their loyalty... He even saw AdJ!
Personally, I'd settle for an empty middle seat on non-full flights, but don't even get that.
Be it 7000 or 4000, it is still a very low number compared to the 77 million passengers they had last year.
Knowing the number makes me feel quite special - certainly a lot more so than anything AF actually does or says...
Interestingly, a colleague of mine was recently meeting a client for lunch in a downtown Paris hotel (don't know which one) and there was some big AF do going on, being as interested as the rest of us - he spied a little. Seems it was a workshop with a lot of LTPE guests and Club 2000 members to get their feedback and thank them for their loyalty... He even saw AdJ!
Personally, I'd settle for an empty middle seat on non-full flights, but don't even get that.