Master thread : AF new and cancelled routes
Feb 17, 2023, 6:53 am
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When does AF add ORY-AJA seasonal flights to the schedule? Currently bookable on XK metal only.
ETA: Just checked ITA matrix again, and see there are a few flights on AF metal here and there, but not the full complement as there was last summer (and none on the date I need for my outbound.)
ETA: Just checked ITA matrix again, and see there are a few flights on AF metal here and there, but not the full complement as there was last summer (and none on the date I need for my outbound.)
Last edited by miles4CDG; Feb 17, 2023 at 8:04 am Reason: updated info
Feb 17, 2023, 1:17 pm
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When does AF add ORY-AJA seasonal flights to the schedule? Currently bookable on XK metal only.
ETA: Just checked ITA matrix again, and see there are a few flights on AF metal here and there, but not the full complement as there was last summer (and none on the date I need for my outbound.)
ETA: Just checked ITA matrix again, and see there are a few flights on AF metal here and there, but not the full complement as there was last summer (and none on the date I need for my outbound.)
CDG-AJA is seasonal
Feb 17, 2023, 1:45 pm
#258
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Good to know. The ORY-AJA flights on AF metal are much more sporadic than last summer. Is it possible they will add more, or is what is on the schedule now, what will be? And when might CDG-AJA be added? I have been holding off booking a connection from LP, as there is a difference in ground service AF metal vs. XK. Merci!
Feb 17, 2023, 2:42 pm
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Good to know. The ORY-AJA flights on AF metal are much more sporadic than last summer. Is it possible they will add more, or is what is on the schedule now, what will be? And when might CDG-AJA be added? I have been holding off booking a connection from LP, as there is a difference in ground service AF metal vs. XK. Merci!
Feb 19, 2023, 4:15 am
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AFKL rotations to China will ramp up next month.
From March 26th onwards:
CDG PEK, CDG PVG: 3x per week
CDG HKG: 3x per week
AMS PVG, AMS PEK: 6x per week
AMS HGK: 3x per week, now direct
Fares are still through the roof though.
PVG : 5k base rate in J; 1 500 € in Y.
Prepare to fork out 1200-1700 € for a R/T to HKG in Y, 6 000 € in J...
Alternatives to HK: CX for 3000 €-4500 € in J, 1000-1200 € in Y (both superior products IMHO).
If you want to drop 6k€, you can also get LX, LH and EK at this rate... Except you'll be in First instead of J
From March 26th onwards:
CDG PEK, CDG PVG: 3x per week
CDG HKG: 3x per week
AMS PVG, AMS PEK: 6x per week
AMS HGK: 3x per week, now direct
Fares are still through the roof though.
PVG : 5k base rate in J; 1 500 € in Y.
Prepare to fork out 1200-1700 € for a R/T to HKG in Y, 6 000 € in J...
Alternatives to HK: CX for 3000 €-4500 € in J, 1000-1200 € in Y (both superior products IMHO).
If you want to drop 6k€, you can also get LX, LH and EK at this rate... Except you'll be in First instead of J
Apr 10, 2023, 3:14 am
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AF7550 NCE 6:55 LHR 7:55
AF7551 LHR 8:55 NCE 11:55
AF7380 NCE 17:35 LHR 18:35
AF7381 LHR 19:45 NCE 22:45
The morning rotation (in bold) remains a year-round one.
May 2, 2023, 3:19 am
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29 seasonal routes from Paris-Charles de Gaulle, 2 seasonal routes from Paris-Orly.:
This summer, Air France is stepping up its flight schedule on departure from Paris to make everyone’s travel plans easier.
In summer 2023, the airline will operate a total of 29 seasonal medium-haul routes from Paris-Charles de Gaulle to:
Greece:
Italy:
North Africa:
Central Europe:
Corsica:
Spain:
Croatia:
Cork (Ireland): 7 weekly flights, from 26 March to 28 October 2023.
Faro (Portugal): up to 4 weekly flights, from 8 July to 27 August 2023.
Malta: up to 5 weekly flights, from 1 April to 28 October 2023.
Air France will also operate 2 medium-haul routes from Paris-Orly to:
Spain:
Flight schedules and fares can be consulted on airfrance.fr.
This summer, Air France is stepping up its flight schedule on departure from Paris to make everyone’s travel plans easier.
In summer 2023, the airline will operate a total of 29 seasonal medium-haul routes from Paris-Charles de Gaulle to:
Greece:
- Santorini: up to 11 weekly flights, from 2 April to 24 September 2023.
- Heraklion: up to 13 weekly flights, from 8 April to 28 October 2023.
- Mykonos: up to 9 weekly flights, from 3 June to 2 September 2023.
- Corfu: up to 4 weekly flights, from 9 July to 27 August 2023.
- Rhodes: up to 5 weekly flights, from 8 July to 27 August 2023.
- Thessaloniki: up to 3 weekly flights, from 9 July to 27 August 2023.
Italy:
- Bari: up to 10 weekly flights from 30 March to 28 October 2023.
- Palermo: up to 11 weekly flights, from 1 April to 28 October 2023.
- Catania: up to 8 weekly flights, from 15 April to 30 September 2023.
- Olbia: up to 11 weekly flights, from 3 June to 30 September 2023.
- Cagliari-Elmas: up to 7 weekly flights from 8 July to 27 August 2023.
North Africa:
- Djerba (Tunisia): up to 7 weekly flights, from 15 April to 30 September 2023.
- Tangiers (Morocco): up to 3 weekly flights, from 21 April to 29 September 2023.
- Agadir (Morocco): 2 weekly flights, from 8 July to 27 August 2023.
- Monastir (Tunisia): up to 4 weekly flights, from 8 July to 27 August 2023.
Central Europe:
- Krakow (Poland): up to 4 weekly flights, from 28 March to 28 October 2023.
- Tirana (Albania): up to 2 weekly flights, from 20 May to 30 September 2023.
Corsica:
- Ajaccio: up to 4 weekly flights, from 17 May to 30 September 2023.
- Figari: up to 11 weekly flights, from 17 May to 30 September 2023.
- Calvi: 4 flights between 17 and 29 May and then up to 2 weekly flights from 8 July to 27 August 2023.
- Bastia: 4 flights between 17 and 29 May then 1 weekly flight from 8 July to 26 August 2023.
Spain:
- Palma de Mallorca: up to 16 weekly flights from 7 April to 27 October 2023.
- Ibiza: up to 11 weekly flights, from 22 April to 30 September 2023.
- Tenerife South: up to 2 weekly flights, from 9 July to 27 August 2023.
Croatia:
- Dubrovnik: up to 10 weekly flights, from 29 April to 28 October 2023.
- Split: up to 6 weekly flights, from 30 April to 22 October 2023.
Cork (Ireland): 7 weekly flights, from 26 March to 28 October 2023.
Faro (Portugal): up to 4 weekly flights, from 8 July to 27 August 2023.
Malta: up to 5 weekly flights, from 1 April to 28 October 2023.
Air France will also operate 2 medium-haul routes from Paris-Orly to:
Spain:
- Ibiza: up to 5 weekly flights, from 7 July to 27 August 2023.
- Palma de Mallorca: up to 2 weekly flights, from 8 July to 26 August 2023.
Flight schedules and fares can be consulted on airfrance.fr.
May 11, 2023, 8:37 am
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T3 routes between UK and ORY
AF is advertising new routes from CWL, EMA and SOU to ORY and vv, operated by T3 (Eastern Airways): https://wwws.airfrance.co.uk/informa.../uk-new-routes. There are shown under T3 code rather than AF code, so perhaps just interlining rather than codesharing?
The timings for CWL-ORY on the page are obviously a typo. I would guess that the times are likely to be something like 14:50--> 17:35. It looks like this is all operated by the same ATR42 aircraft in a W-style pattern.
The timings for CWL-ORY on the page are obviously a typo. I would guess that the times are likely to be something like 14:50--> 17:35. It looks like this is all operated by the same ATR42 aircraft in a W-style pattern.
May 12, 2023, 1:12 am
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AF is advertising new routes from CWL, EMA and SOU to ORY and vv, operated by T3 (Eastern Airways): https://wwws.airfrance.co.uk/informa.../uk-new-routes. There are shown under T3 code rather than AF code, so perhaps just interlining rather than codesharing?
The timings for CWL-ORY on the page are obviously a typo. I would guess that the times are likely to be something like 14:50--> 17:35. It looks like this is all operated by the same ATR42 aircraft in a W-style pattern.
The timings for CWL-ORY on the page are obviously a typo. I would guess that the times are likely to be something like 14:50--> 17:35. It looks like this is all operated by the same ATR42 aircraft in a W-style pattern.
Weird that there is no code-share because they are not listed as FB partner (yet ?). And ADP site knows nothing about those flights.
May 12, 2023, 6:38 am
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Eastern Airways has been established in the UK for quite some time. It is a much smaller operation than Flybe, though and used to operate some flights on behalf of Flybe under a franchise agreement. Size-wise, it would be more like former Stobart Air or CItyjet but, unlike these, it does operate flights under its own code rather than as franchisee for another operator.
Jul 15, 2023, 2:12 am
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Apart from the new RDU service by AF (replacing DL) already announced in a another thread, here are some other information for the coming winter season :
- RDU : 3w (Mo, We, Fr), B789-operating.
- YOW : the new destination started recently will continue to be served during the winter. 5w (Mo, Tu, Th, Sa, Su), B789-operating.
- YUL : frequency increase compared to last winter season : 21w instead of 17w. Also from Dec 2, re-start of the seasonal service YUL-PTP, 2w (Tu, Sa), A320-operating.
- YVR : frequency increase compared to last winter season : 5w instead of 3w
- RDU : 3w (Mo, We, Fr), B789-operating.
- YOW : the new destination started recently will continue to be served during the winter. 5w (Mo, Tu, Th, Sa, Su), B789-operating.
- YUL : frequency increase compared to last winter season : 21w instead of 17w. Also from Dec 2, re-start of the seasonal service YUL-PTP, 2w (Tu, Sa), A320-operating.
- YVR : frequency increase compared to last winter season : 5w instead of 3w
Jul 17, 2023, 4:26 pm
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New destination : AUH
AF launches a daily flight to AUH from 29 OCT. I should rather say re-launch, as AF served AUH in the past but that was many years ago (it was a continuation of DXB IIRC)
Aircraft : A350
AF638 : CDG 21h15, AUH 6h45 (+1)
AF639 : AUH 8h45, CDG 13h15
At that stage, I don't know if this flight will replace one of the 2 daily frequencies to DXB or if DXB will remain as it is
Aircraft : A350
AF638 : CDG 21h15, AUH 6h45 (+1)
AF639 : AUH 8h45, CDG 13h15
At that stage, I don't know if this flight will replace one of the 2 daily frequencies to DXB or if DXB will remain as it is
Jul 17, 2023, 5:12 pm
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AF launches a daily flight to AUH from 29 OCT. I should rather say re-launch, as AF served AUH in the past but that was many years ago (it was a continuation of DXB IIRC)
Aircraft : A350
AF638 : CDG 21h15, AUH 6h45 (+1)
AF639 : AUH 8h45, CDG 13h15
At that stage, I don't know if this flight will replace one of the 2 daily frequencies to DXB or if DXB will remain as it is
Aircraft : A350
AF638 : CDG 21h15, AUH 6h45 (+1)
AF639 : AUH 8h45, CDG 13h15
At that stage, I don't know if this flight will replace one of the 2 daily frequencies to DXB or if DXB will remain as it is