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Master thread : AF new and cancelled routes
I thought that it's better to start and have a general thread for this where we can discuss all announced new and canceled routes rather than starting a thread each time.
AF announced today 3 new medium-haul routes, starting May 26, 2018 : BGO (Bergen), ORK (Cork) and WRO (Wrocklaw) Paris CDG – Bergen eff 26MAY18 1 daily A319 AF1252 CDG1440 – 1655BGO 319 x26 AF1252 CDG1450 – 1705BGO 319 26 AF1253 BGO1740 – 2000CDG 319 x26 AF1253 BGO1750 – 2010CDG 319 26 Paris CDG – Cork eff 26MAY18 1 daily by HOP! Embraer E170 AF1094 CDG1455 – 1550 ORK E70 D AF1095 ORK1630 – 1920 CDG E70 D Paris CDG – Wroclaw eff 26MAY18 1 daily by HOP! Embraer E170 AF1368 CDG0945 – 1140WRO E70 D AF1369 WRO1215 – 1410CDG E70 D https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...from-may-2018/ |
New Hop! seasonal routes - S18
New Province-Province transversal routes.
From airlineroutes. https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...routes-in-s18/ Ajaccio – Caen 22APR18 – 30SEP18 1 weekly Embraer E190 Ajaccio – Lyon 02JUN18 – 30SEP18 2 weekly CRJ900/1000 (ERJ145/CRJ1000 30JUN18 – 01SEP18) Ajaccio – Nantes 21APR18 – 30SEP18 2 weekly A319/320 (1 weekly A319 21APR18 – 02JUN18) Bastia – Castres 23JUN18 – 01SEP18 1 weekly ATR42 Bastia – Lyon 02JUN18 – 29SEP18 1 weekly CRJ700 (2 weekly 17JUN18 – 02SEP18) Bastia – Metz 21APR18 – 29SEP18 1 weekly Embraer ERJ145 Bastia – Nantes 21APR18 – 29SEP18 1 weekly AIRFRANCE A320 (2 weekly CRJ1000 and AF A320 from 03JUN18) Bastia – Pau 16JUN18 – 29SEP18 1 weekly CRJ700 Bastia – Perpignan 30JUN18 – 01SEP18 1 weekly CRJ700 Bastia – Strasbourg 02JUN18 – 30SEP18 2 weekly CRJ1000/Embraer ERJ145 Calvi – Bordeaux 07APR18 – 29SEP18 1 weekly CRJ1000 (3 weekly AF A320 01AUG18 – 24AUG18) Calvi – Lyon 07APR18 – 06OCT18 1 weekly CRJ700 (2 weekly Embraer ERJ145/CRJ700 02JUN18 – 02SEP18) Figari – Lyon 19MAY18 – 29SEP18 1 weekly CRJ700 Figari – Toulouse 02JUN18 – 29SEP18 1 weekly AIRFRANCE A319 (3 weekly 24JUL18 – 30AUG18) Lille – Brest eff 25MAR18 5 weekly Embraer ERJ145 (6 weekly from 08JUL18, 4 weekly in August 2018) Lille – Toulon 23JUN18 – 29SEP18 1 weekly Embraer ERJ145 Marseille – Caen eff 26MAR18 4 weekly Embraer ERJ145 Marseille – Metz eff 25MAR18 4 weekly Embraer ERJ145 Strasbourg – Toulon 23JUN!8 – 29SEP18 1 weekly Embraer ERJ145 |
You guys probably saw/know that already but, just in case, in a recent email from AF, they announced that they will be:
- direct CDG-CTA flights from 27/03/18 - CDG-SEA flights from 25/03/18 - (direct?) CDG-TPE flights from 16/04/18 - (direct?) CDG-NBO flights from 25/03/18. No indications regarding planes/config though. |
Originally Posted by Enthilza
(Post 29388690)
You guys probably saw/know that already but, just in case, in a recent email from AF, they announced that they will be:
- direct CDG-CTA flights from 27/03/18 - CDG-SEA flights from 25/03/18 - (direct?) CDG-TPE flights from 16/04/18 - (direct?) CDG-NBO flights from 25/03/18. No indications regarding planes/config though. |
Originally Posted by Asquared1
(Post 29391113)
My SEA-CDG flight in Nov is on an A330
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
(Post 29387250)
New Province-Province transversal routes.
From airlineroutes. https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...routes-in-s18/ |
Originally Posted by NickB
(Post 29391916)
Thanks for this, Goldorak. A couple of rather surprising routes in there, in particular Marseille-Caen 4 times weekly? :confused:
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IKA by AF becomes seasonal (note that it was a route transferred to Joon). The route will be stopped for the winter season (from end oct.). KL will continue to fly there year round. Customers having AF tickets will be transferred to KL.
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
(Post 29670894)
IKA by AF becomes seasonal (note that it was a route transferred to Joon). The route will be stopped for the winter season (from end oct.). KL will continue to fly there year round. Customers having AF tickets will be transferred to KL.
it seems that the route will be axed by both AF and KL. Last flights around mid-September for both airlines. https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...late-sep-2018/ BA is also reducing frequencies and I remember having read other airlines axing IKA as well. |
DFW (AF) and UIO (Joon)
Today, AF announced 2 new routes starting for summer 2019 season :
- DFW starting march 31. AF mainline A332 equipped with new J/W/Y seats :) AF0150 : CDG 10h10, DFW 13h50 AF0159 : DFW 15h45, CDG 8h15 (D+1) From March 31 to June 30 and from Sept 4 to Oct 25, 2019 : flights operate on wednesday, friday and sunday From July 1st to Sept 1st: flights operate on monday, wednesday, friday, saturday and sunday - UIO starting May 14. Operated by Joon A343 AF210 : CDG 13h10, UIO 18h05 AF211 : UIO 19h50, CDG 13h50 (D+1) From March 31 to Oct 26, 2019 : flights operate on tuesday, thursday and saturday I have to say, I am skeptical with DFW : AA fortress, AF already failed after one season back in 2000/2001 IIRC and KL is seasonal (I think) and it remains a weak route (I think). May be it means that KL will stop DFW and will be replaced by AF. The best news is that, finally, the retrofit of A332 is confirmed ! |
Originally Posted by Goldorak
(Post 30200855)
I have to say, I am skeptical with DFW : AA fortress, AF already failed after one season back in 2000/2001 IIRC and KL is seasonal (I think) and it remains a weak route (I think).
Closed October 2001. 9/11 was part of the picture though. |
Originally Posted by bodory
(Post 30202334)
Opened April 2001.
Closed October 2001. 9/11 was part of the picture though. |
Glad to hear Air France will return to DFW! It was certainly short lived last time. As you say with DFW being an AA fortress hub and very one world heavy it will be a difficult route for them. AA typically has higher prices on their direct flight to Paris and I'm sure in typical AA fashion they will lower their fares to the bare minimum to make it difficult for AF to build their market.
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Originally Posted by MorganB
(Post 30213804)
I'm sure in typical AA fashion they will lower their fares to the bare minimum to make it difficult for AF to build their market.
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Just found about DFW through the AF newsletter - somehow missed this here in the forum. Also glad they add this route, right now the connection from Germany to DFW on ST carriers involves transferring in ATL. I hope the route will survive the year 2019.
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