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LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible

NORTH AMERICA

- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)

CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)

ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)

AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)

MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)

CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25

Code:

F-GSPA – NEV4
 F-GSPE – NEV4
 F-GSPM – NEV4
 F-GSPZ – NEV4

Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25

Code:

F-GSPD
 F-GSPP

Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25

Code:

F-GSPB – BEST
 F-GSPC – BEST
 F-GSPF – BEST
 F-GSPG – BEST
 F-GSPH – BEST
 F-GSPI – BEST
 F-GSPJ - BEST
 F-GSPK – BEST
 F-GSPQ – BEST
 F-GSPR – BEST
 F-GSPS – BEST
 F-GSPT – BEST
 F-GSPU – BEST
 F-GSPV – BEST
 F-GSPX – BEST
 F-GSPY – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25

Code:

F-GSPL – BEST
 F-GSPO – BEST
 F-GSPN – BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43

Code:

All Converted to BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43

Code:

F-GSQD – NEV4
 F-GSQE – NEV4
 F-GZNH – NEV4
 F-GZNI – NEV4
 F-GZNJ - NEV4
 F-GZNK – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43

Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43

Code:

F-GSQA – BEST
 F-GSQB – BEST
 F-GSQC – BEST
 F-GSQF – BEST
 F-GSQG – BEST
 F-GSQH – BEST
 F-GSQI – BEST
 F-GSQJ – BEST
 F-GSQK – BEST
 F-GSQL – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GSQM – BEST
 F-GSQU - BEST
 F-GSQV – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GZNA – BEST
 F-GZNB - BEST
 F-GZNC – BEST
 F-GZND - BEST
 F-GZNE – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43

Code:

F-GSQN – NEV4
 F-GSQO – NEV4
 F-GSQP – NEV4
 F-GSQR – NEV4
 F-GSQS – NEV4
 F-GSQT – NEV4
 F-GSQX – NEV4
 F-GZNF – NEV4
 F-GZNG – NEV4
 F-GZNL – NEV4
 F-GZNN – NEV4
 F-GZNO – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43

Code:

F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015)
 F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015)
 F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015)
 F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)

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Nov 30, 2014, 3:50 am

#91

brunos

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With only one plane being equipped that is not surprising.

BTW: Although AF seats are based on the Cirrus general design, they are quite different in many aspects, especially on the motoring aspect (only two moving cushions instead of three), so it is not surprising that they encounter teething problems that lead to delays.

Dec 1, 2014, 2:47 pm

#92

AttorneyVin

Used to be " vincentppetty "

Join Date: Sep 2006

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AF # 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by orbitmic

Let's first hope for you that AF doesn't substitute an old 777! For the rest, indeed, fingers crossed and hope you'll get the window seat!

I booked using my DL Mileage as ST Elite+ on AF # 9 in late April from JFK-CDG so that I could try to new business seat.
Seeing this post concerns me -- has there been issues with the new cabin on # 9 and equip swaps?

Dec 7, 2014, 3:05 pm

#93

CGRA

Join Date: Mar 2010

Posts: 2,592

Quote:

Originally Posted by orbitmic

That is not quite correct. If you want to fly the new J as Skyteam Elite and would like a solo window seat, you need to wait till OLCI and hope to get one then. It is most unlikely that 50% of the cabin will be Skyteam Elite Plus at the end and there is a good chance that you will be able to get one, but you cannot pre-assign them unless you are Elite Plus.

Seems that doesn't apply to award as I was able to pick up a solo seat from SIN as silver at the time of booking.

By the way, is there a dicussion for the best J seat ? Maybe the previous pages here.. ?

Dec 8, 2014, 3:32 am

#94

Aquitania

Join Date: Jun 2011

Posts: 119

Has the launch of the BEST product to Dubai been postponed? I am looking at mid-February and it still shows an older seat map.

Dec 8, 2014, 2:44 pm

#95

Goldorak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cedricgerald

Seems that doesn't apply to award as I was able to pick up a solo seat from SIN as silver at the time of booking.

Are you sure this selection is confirmed ? Go back to your booking in MMB and you might have (bad) surprises.

Dec 9, 2014, 4:24 am

#96

CGRA

Join Date: Mar 2010

Posts: 2,592

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldorak

Are you sure this selection is confirmed ? Go back to your booking in MMB and you might have (bad) surprises.

Thank you Goldorak and unfortunately you're correct :

I did book a solo seat even when the award was on old for 3 days
I tickected last saturday and still had a solo seat
Just rechecked and it's "non disponible" so no seat selection at all available

So elite+ can have a solo seat
paid pax can have a seat (except if they pay a high fare bucket, money buy status)
and free pax can have... the large ottoman on the center section if available

Fingers crossed that CX will release an F seat (or even a J seat) so I'll gladly cancel this booking and pay 45 euros, first time that I'll be happy to give money to AF

Dec 10, 2014, 4:31 am

#97

mario

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Location: London, UK

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Posts: 1,656

Me and my OH have a HND-CDG on AF279 for early April. This was showing as the old business class 2-3-2 but has changed yesterday to 1-2-1.

I hope it won't revert back

Dec 10, 2014, 5:10 am

#98

CGRA

Join Date: Mar 2010

Posts: 2,592

Quote:

Originally Posted by cedricgerald

Did chat on af.com and call the elite # and both were the worst customer service, with a deep lack of knowledge, stupid comments, lying, not a single "sorry"
it's only when you have problem that you can see who are your Friends
AF you're not my Friend

Dec 10, 2014, 9:52 am

#99

whole9yards

Join Date: Apr 2009

Location: Bath, UK

Programs: BAEC Silver, CX Gold

Posts: 182

My December 21st flight to HND is still showing old configuration. really annoyed. Oh well. There are only two seats left on the flight, considering the new config has fewer seats, I don't think they'd change to the new seats now even if they could! Disappointing indeed. Hope you guys have better luck! I have been checking pictures of NEV4 seats, the foot rest cubby seems quite nice, I hope it will feel very close to a fully flat bed with this addition. Flew LH J last year, the slope really was not very comfortable! I am kinda glad the AF Nev4 seats at least have the foot rest separate from the main chair.

Dec 10, 2014, 1:44 pm

#100

opus2002

Join Date: Jan 2010

Programs: AA BA CO DL UA US

Posts: 814

Does anyone know if AF17 from JFK to Paris is the new business class seats or the old ones?

How does one check the seat configurations/assignments on AF flights?

Last edited by opus2002; Dec 10, 2014 at 1:49 pm

Dec 10, 2014, 2:35 pm

#101

accidental_tourist

Join Date: Apr 2005

Location: Paris, France

Programs: HHonor Diamond, SPG Plat100, HGP Plat, AF Plat, *A G (A3)

Posts: 155

Yesterday's luxury

Quote:

Originally Posted by franck75002

Also, I noted that most seats have already suffered: caibnet door does not open, armrest does not lock in its down position, and small pièces broken all around the seat.

Hope for them AF did the right choice with these new seats...

I tried to refrain from commenting on these seats before i get to try them myself, but can't hold back anymore with the endless delays. Honestly, i dont understand why AF would go for the LAST generation flatbed that CX dumped for precisely the problems that you are listing... Anyone who flew often on CX know that those problems come from the seats, not the airline.

Heard from the onboard personnel that the revamping is held back by capex delay. Not enough cashflow at the group level - so expect the old seats whereever you fly!

Dec 10, 2014, 2:49 pm

#102

accidental_tourist

Join Date: Apr 2005

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Posts: 155

Sure bet

Quote:

Originally Posted by opus2002

Does anyone know if AF17 from JFK to Paris is the new business class seats or the old ones?

How does one check the seat configurations/assignments on AF flights?

If you care as much as i do for a flatbed, go for AF3577 instead...

(It is also known as DL400 for the uninitiated). I have done exactly that for my christmas award tickets - no lost sleep whether thay will bait and switch my seat...

Completely beyond me why AF rejected the DL seats when they decided to go flat. I really like the DL seats and try to get on a DL flight whenever i fly to the other side of the pond (company has group contract with AF so cant fly UA too often).

Dec 11, 2014, 12:42 pm

#103

MichielR

Join Date: Aug 2008

Location: Geneva

Programs: LX SEN, AFKL Platinum, BA Bronze,

Posts: 5,638

In the last few weeks I have sampled LH new C, LX C, BA CW and the new AF BEST seat. In my opinion the new AF seat beats the others by a bit (LX) or a lot (BA and LH). If AF could manage to roll out the new seats quicker they would get more of my custom. As it is, groud experience as HON at FRA and ZRH still beats CDG, but having experienced a 30 min fast track queue at LHR as well, LHR T5 comes very very last in my preference.

The new BEST is just an excellent seat, wider than the competition, with more legroom than LH and BA and equal legroom to the better LX seats. Storage is as good as LX, better than LH and lots better than BA.

IFE for AF new C was the best of these four, where LX and BA come last. If I want to eat good food, I will go to a restaurant, but I had good food on LX and AF, mediocre food on LH and plain awful food on BA.

These flights were a small sample: a single AF flight, but for BA, LH and LX these were very representative of all the last years of flying.

Only negative of AF really was the very early arrival from HND: so early that CDG was still pretty much closed: passport control and extra security check required and 30 minutes waiting for the lounge to open and have a coffee.

No need to reopen the lack of Plat differentiation and lounges, but First lounges on LH group and BA are still lots better than the AF C lounge Plat gives access to.

Dec 13, 2014, 7:06 am

#104

Gwilly

Join Date: Apr 2012

Location: NYC

Programs: DL DM | FB Platinum

Posts: 80

What's going on with the new cabins on JFK-CDG route?

Hey there,

Curious if anyone has any insight on what's happening with the new cabins that were supposed to be flying AF8-9 and AF10-11 soon.
The new 777-200 has been showing quite consistently since this summer but is nowhere to be seen in the coming weeks.
The new 777-300 was supposed to start 12/22 and is not showing on EF.

Thanks!

Dec 13, 2014, 11:09 am

#105

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AF010/011 is normally from 26/01/2015
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23773146-post44.html