A quote for AC Execs
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A quote for AC Execs
I am sitting in the MLL having a coffee and perusing the G&M.
This quote from Isidore Sharp, CEO of Four Seasons Hotels, caught my eye for wisdom and relevance to AC's present situation
"My job was getting employees at every level to focus on one priority: pleasing customers. And it was also getting managers to focus on the obvious corollary: pleasing employees"
Here is a simple and effective strategic plan for revitalizing the airline.
This quote from Isidore Sharp, CEO of Four Seasons Hotels, caught my eye for wisdom and relevance to AC's present situation
"My job was getting employees at every level to focus on one priority: pleasing customers. And it was also getting managers to focus on the obvious corollary: pleasing employees"
Here is a simple and effective strategic plan for revitalizing the airline.
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I fear i'm going to offend.....but at the Four Seasons you have a vast range of associates who make from minimum wage + up and can appreciate good leadership and praise. While at AC, they start much higher then that and can be tainted by a lifer making 5, 6, 7 times that and virtually free flights and still feel they deserve more.
Both groups are in the service sector, but one group appreciates that and the other would like to forget that.
So, this might work on the newer folks, it won't work well on the seasoned, locked-in unioniized vet who has a sense of entitlement. More, more, more.
Both groups are in the service sector, but one group appreciates that and the other would like to forget that.
So, this might work on the newer folks, it won't work well on the seasoned, locked-in unioniized vet who has a sense of entitlement. More, more, more.
Last edited by jrs101; Apr 14, 2009 at 8:05 am
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I am sitting in the MLL having a coffee and perusing the G&M.
This quote from Isidore Sharp, CEO of Four Seasons Hotels, caught my eye for wisdom and relevance to AC's present situation
"My job was getting employees at every level to focus on one priority: pleasing customers. And it was also getting managers to focus on the obvious corollary: pleasing employees"
Here is a simple and effective strategic plan for revitalizing the airline.
This quote from Isidore Sharp, CEO of Four Seasons Hotels, caught my eye for wisdom and relevance to AC's present situation
"My job was getting employees at every level to focus on one priority: pleasing customers. And it was also getting managers to focus on the obvious corollary: pleasing employees"
Here is a simple and effective strategic plan for revitalizing the airline.
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Remember Robert Milton's comment about how leadership means being "in charge"? He, and AC management in general, could learn a lot from this paragraph:
I had no illusions about all that would have to be changed. Commanders who believed that bosses are made to give orders would have to learn to advise and support employees who act on their own. Autocrats who depended on position for authority would need to earn the personal authority of respect. Number crunchers would have to consider feelings as well as facts. And although we made some headway on all this, we still had a long way to go.
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Well Milton is back running AC, so perhaps we should buy him the book. hes pulling the strings from London.
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It seems to me that unionized work forces in the G8 countries are finally coming to realize the hard way that you can only suck a company dry for so long before something bites you. For any endeavor or enterprise in life you get out of it in proportion to what you put into it.
One of the delicious ironies emerging from this economic downturn, or crisis if you prefer, is that the unions and their members might finally realize that if you want the goose to keep laying eggs, you have to feed it once in a while.
One of the delicious ironies emerging from this economic downturn, or crisis if you prefer, is that the unions and their members might finally realize that if you want the goose to keep laying eggs, you have to feed it once in a while.
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It seems to me that unionized work forces in the G8 countries are finally coming to realize the hard way that you can only suck a company dry for so long before something bites you. For any endeavor or enterprise in life you get out of it in proportion to what you put into it.
One of the delicious ironies emerging from this economic downturn, or crisis if you prefer, is that the unions and their members might finally realize that if you want the goose to keep laying eggs, you have to feed it once in a while.
One of the delicious ironies emerging from this economic downturn, or crisis if you prefer, is that the unions and their members might finally realize that if you want the goose to keep laying eggs, you have to feed it once in a while.
I think that overall AC's unions have been pretty realistic through the ups and downs of the industry. They have usually made concessions when necessary. Big ones were made in 2003. More will probably be made before the current crunch is over. If Mr Milton was incorrect when he claimed to have left AC in good shape to withstand the next downturn, that's hardly the fault of AC's unions or of its unionised employees.
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It seems to me that unionized work forces in the G8 countries are finally coming to realize the hard way that you can only suck a company dry for so long before something bites you. For any endeavor or enterprise in life you get out of it in proportion to what you put into it.
One of the delicious ironies emerging from this economic downturn, or crisis if you prefer, is that the unions and their members might finally realize that if you want the goose to keep laying eggs, you have to feed it once in a while.
One of the delicious ironies emerging from this economic downturn, or crisis if you prefer, is that the unions and their members might finally realize that if you want the goose to keep laying eggs, you have to feed it once in a while.
The ones I can think of right now....
Extra 1/2 hour unpaid a day (that alone is 6% decrease in salary)
Temporary pay reductions
Creation of a new pay scale for employees hired after 2004 (which is significantly lower)
Loss of 1 week paid vacation
Loss of evening/night premiums for phone agents
Reduction of sick/family days from 15 to 6 a year
Accepting a 6 yr long collective agreement to help out the company
Etc etc etc.
I probably am missing a few, feel free to add in.
So please, don't go around saying that Unions are milking the company away, Execs who are leaving with ten's of millions of dollars, in this tough economy, are the ones milking the company, certainly not the unions.
Cheers
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Extra 1/2 hour unpaid a day
Temporary pay reductions
Creation of a new pay scale for employees hired after 2004 (which is significantly lower)
Loss of 1 week paid vacation
Loss of evening/night premiums for phone agents
Reduction of sick/family days from 15 to 6 a year
Accepting a 6 yr long collective agreement to help out the company
Temporary pay reductions
Creation of a new pay scale for employees hired after 2004 (which is significantly lower)
Loss of 1 week paid vacation
Loss of evening/night premiums for phone agents
Reduction of sick/family days from 15 to 6 a year
Accepting a 6 yr long collective agreement to help out the company
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I agree - after years of flying I had the worst check-in experience at the SE gate at Pearson - rude, condescending, arrogant, etc. - seasoned vet, yes; willing to please customers, no
The only solace would be that this agent may be a casualty of bankruptcy
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I'm not a fan of unions, but at times they have their place. As pax, we've experienced a long trend towards being treated more as self-loading cargo. It's probably fair to say that the environment at AC hasn't been terribly conducive to creating a harmonious working environment for the employees.
Izzy Sharp makes a few good points in his book (at least, the exceprts that have been published thus far). He notes that if the workers work for you, then you (as management) should work for the workers. I doubt very much that's been the consistent case at AC. No wonder then, that the unions feel embittered at times!
But in today's expert, Mr. Sharp observed how opportunities can come out of economic downturns. Co-incidentally on the next page of Report on Business (page B4), Calin Rovinescue notes that AC needs to take advantage of the strong relationship with AE and the most frequent flyers, and that AC doesn't necessarily need to shrink back to profitability and that other solutions may be possible.
I hope Mr. Rovinescue is right and that a creative solution to the bankruptcy situation is forthcoming. And I hope that he's able to create a better working atmosphere at AC as well, for happy workers will most likely result in happy pax.
Izzy Sharp makes a few good points in his book (at least, the exceprts that have been published thus far). He notes that if the workers work for you, then you (as management) should work for the workers. I doubt very much that's been the consistent case at AC. No wonder then, that the unions feel embittered at times!
But in today's expert, Mr. Sharp observed how opportunities can come out of economic downturns. Co-incidentally on the next page of Report on Business (page B4), Calin Rovinescue notes that AC needs to take advantage of the strong relationship with AE and the most frequent flyers, and that AC doesn't necessarily need to shrink back to profitability and that other solutions may be possible.
I hope Mr. Rovinescue is right and that a creative solution to the bankruptcy situation is forthcoming. And I hope that he's able to create a better working atmosphere at AC as well, for happy workers will most likely result in happy pax.


