Bravo for Shore9 attending. Sorry I couldn't make it.

Gives new meaning to always "being on the run" :D (had to be there to understand this picture completely) :eek:

My reason for believing that YUL was somewhat better than YVR,was the attendance of Robert Milton and Monte Brewer.(the latter for the whole meeting).I sense that AC personnel felt more comfortable with the group.(witness the pokes of humor sprinkled thru the meeting) :cool:

It was too bad you weren't there. yvrsalesgirl was telling wonderful stories about you :D

We got the better deal :p

nice work, terry and lee!!

For some reason the emotioncon for giving the finger doesn't work here... :D

We should all thank Parnel et al for all the efforts into organizing this excelent DO. Some of my questions were answered. Thanks again. ^

Did they give an update about when they plan to release the new international fare structure?

As you know, AC has already 'solved' this issue in YYC - they just have all their passengers going to YEG hump their own baggage all over the YYC airport in order to re-check in in any event. :eek:

Besides, if it doesn't fit in an overhead or under the seat it should be checked in. Tough luck that you're on a CRJ/ERJ.

As much as I like to use the skycheck on the Dash and CRJ service, their is a lot to be said for your comment.

Now that the euphoria of the Do day and the ensuing fog have lifted, I have slightly different view of some of the days events.

I am no less appreciative of all who made the event happen, I just have a different take on things, some may even accuse me of being cynical.

To quote Ken Hamer, I had a liberating moment when I was informed my $36k was not enough for SE on a revenue basis, their wasn't even a pause or any thought put into the no, it was a quick decisive no. I clearly place a much higher value on my loyalty to AC than AC does. In the past I have gone out of my way to fly AC, even paid a little more sometimes. I was inquiring on FT a few weeks ago, about how rev is ditributed on a codeshare flight depending on website booked on and metal flown. The reason for my asking is that I would have done what I could to have the $$ go to AC's coffers.

Not anymore.

I asked the question about op-ups at the gate and the DCS system. John Grind of AC whose job is to make sure all of AC's Western Canadas' operations run as smoothly as possible, was a little taken back when I mentioned that GAs' often times grab the closest people to fill the front cabin when the back is oversold and fill the front the easiest way. He basically scoffed that this does not happen, I cried bullsh!t in my usual polite way, to which he came up with more bs as to why it doesn't really happen that way. It was pointed out by Lornag I believe, that UA op-ups it's premuim pax on a routine basis, and the same has happened to her on UA as an AC premium pax. Their was then some acknowledgement from AC that the system is capable, automation would be nice. The unsaid part I picked up, was that it would be nice if they did not have to rely on people to make these decisions, but have the computer do it for them. The issue of staff in the front cabin was never really addressed by us or AC.

I spent two years sitting on as advisory board for the mortgage division for one of the big banks. We had round table meetings, moderated by an excellent company trained in such matters, the banks brass were brought in at the end to hear what we had to say. At the end of it all, some of us realised that they give the appearance of caring what we had to say, but didn't really, we were a group of their largest suppliers of borrowers, were in the best position to advise them what customers need, but in the end it was lip service and waste of our time.
I'm afraid that I am thinking the same of AC, I hope they prove me very wrong. I think they realise that FT has many more lurkers than it does registered users, that FT is a growing encyclopedia for travellers, and a place that AC needs to pay attention to.
When I think back on the morning's dialogue, their was a lot of justification and defending of AC/AP actions on the part of AC/AP. I don't see that any real change will be enacted.
When exAC asked the question for PE about bridges for the CRJ service, John Grind had all the reasons about logistical problems, that yes it needed to be addressed, all I really heard was yadayadayada. PE don't hold your breath.
I recall flying America West to LAS ex YVR in Dec on a CRJ, they used a bridge, their was a skycheck on the bridge, it worked fine. One of my YFC-YYZ flights last year that was on a CRJ, I used the skycheck at the botto of the stairs in YFC, we arrived at a bridged gate at YYZ, miraculously all of the skychecked bags were in the bridge when we deplaned. So it can work, I refer back to the yadayadayada response from mr Grind. PE, you won't be getting a bridge for a long time.

I apologise in advance to the organisers for my non-compliant report. If AC proves me wrong, I will gladly eat crow. I am sure that AC will not allow me to another event, that is fine by me, but I shall look forward to the gathering afterward.

I was not at the AC portion of the Do, however I was at the Beaver and the dinner. It was very nice to meet everyone, I learnt a valuable lesson that i should pass on to everyone. If you arrive late to a function and there is only 1 seat available, chances are your neighbor is "Greywolf" ;) . At this point wearing a rainsuit would not be a bad idea. All kidding aside, I was worried about him, but once we got some food into him he livened up.

ExAC checks in the mail!! Thanks,

Aft

Taupo,I was sitting beside you and heard the bridging issue as follows.(I do recall you saying bu!!!hit more than once. ;) )

Mr.John Ring(not Grind)mentioned that a group has been commissioned to look at bridging and the 1st meeting is this week Monday.
They are incapable of doing this initially as adapters are required.AC is also looking at how to deal with a potential 70 customer scenario (with skycheck)on new aircraft.(a one time look for all the aircraft types,IMO).AC wants tosafely move all bags to and from bridges.

Hope this helps. :)

Ah yes, a group has been commissioned to look into it..... yadayadayada.
Other carriers make it work, AC makes it work with a 50 seater in YYZ.