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The Lev May 11, 2005 10:40 pm


Originally Posted by Clipper801
AC's elderly B763's are well overdue for refurbrishment. Did anyone from AC elaborate on why they chose an IFE that is not yet certified (March 2006 with potential for delays) vs. one that is already certified (proven product that reliability and quality can be referenced) and available on the shelf for sale and immediate installation? It may be second best but the B763's are old aeroplanes that AC will be phasing out from first line service with the delivery of the new B777's and B787's by 2010? Do they really need the "best" for something that they are only going to keep for just another 4-5 years?

The 787's only BEGIN to arrive in 2010 and dribble in over a period of several years. I'm afraid we'll all still be flying on 767 well past 2010, so tht does justify the refurb. In contrast, the 777's should be delivered by 2010 allowing for a phase out of the 340 and possibly 330 - hence no reno to those aircraft.

YOWkid May 11, 2005 10:42 pm

They do seat blocking at LHR?

nobody-elite May 11, 2005 11:18 pm

Thanks 767300ER.... I appreciate both the fact that my concern was brought forward and your reply.



Originally Posted by 767300ER
Yes somebody mentionned that. They talked about supplying the information on another card but the idea was rejected because we already have zillions of cards. They got the message and hopefully their graphic designers will have to do a little bit better job in 2006.


Lee A Carney May 11, 2005 11:47 pm

Toronto Star Story About the YVR DO
 
I received an email from a reporter from the Toronto Star this morning, asking me to call him back about an Air Canada story he is working on. He is writing a story about the YVR DO, and asked me a few questions about the event.

If anyone sees the story, would you please post a link? I'm sure my mom would love to see my name in the paper..... :D

yyznomad May 12, 2005 2:16 am


Originally Posted by Lee A Carney
I received an email from a reporter from the Toronto Star this morning, asking me to call him back about an Air Canada story he is working on. He is writing a story about the YVR DO, and asked me a few questions about the event.

If anyone sees the story, would you please post a link? I'm sure my mom would love to see my name in the paper..... :D

Ditto, I would really appreciate a heads up when the article comes out.

Overwing May 12, 2005 6:10 am

[QUOTE=Lee A Carney]

Originally Posted by airbus320

My guess is that it's the pilots union management that objects - why give something up for free that can be used as a bargaining chip during the next round of negotiations?

I got the distinct impression that AC thinks the objection is bogus, but you have to pick your battles, and this is one they have decided not to fight. That is opinion, not confirmed verbally by AC.

I have no idea what the objection would be here, and have not heard a single word about it. I have used this feature myself while on a Untied flight and thought it was great.

Your assertion about ACPA management's position is at best pure speculation.

Lee A Carney May 12, 2005 8:47 am

[QUOTE=Overwing]

Originally Posted by Lee A Carney
Your assertion about ACPA management's position is at best pure speculation.

Yes, it is speculation...hence why I said "My guess is..."

However, it would seem that enough of your fellow pilots object to have killed it (for now, at least).

Would you be willing to query your union rep for their official position on the matter? I'd be very interested to know what they say.

greywolf May 16, 2005 8:42 pm

Likewise, I used to fly YYZ-BWI every other week or so (back in 2002). In BWI and in YYZ the CRJ had a bridge and we skychecked baggage on the bridge.


Originally Posted by taupo
Now that the euphoria of the Do day and the ensuing fog have lifted, I have slightly different view of some of the days events.
When exAC asked the question for PE about bridges for the CRJ service, John Grind had all the reasons about logistical problems, that yes it needed to be addressed, all I really heard was yadayadayada. PE don't hold your breath.
I recall flying America West to LAS ex YVR in Dec on a CRJ, they used a bridge, their was a skycheck on the bridge, it worked fine. One of my YFC-YYZ flights last year that was on a CRJ, I used the skycheck at the botto of the stairs in YFC, we arrived at a bridged gate at YYZ, miraculously all of the skychecked bags were in the bridge when we deplaned. So it can work, I refer back to the yadayadayada response from mr Grind. PE, you won't be getting a bridge for a long time.


YOWkid May 16, 2005 9:06 pm

At LGA on the LGA-YOW route, we skychecked everything on the bridge too.

Of course, mind you, there was a BIG pile of bags at the door...

yyznomad May 16, 2005 10:42 pm

Just to add, I have taken hundreds of flights on UAX RJs and many used the jetway at various U.S. airports (i.e. BNA, DSM, FAR, MDT (at least, at the old MDT), etc.).

cedric May 17, 2005 2:44 am

[QUOTE=Lee A Carney]

Originally Posted by Overwing

Yes, it is speculation...hence why I said "My guess is..."

However, it would seem that enough of your fellow pilots object to have killed it (for now, at least).

Would you be willing to query your union rep for their official position on the matter? I'd be very interested to know what they say.

Not only speculation. It's what Ben told us at the YYZ do IIRC. And the same reason usually cited when someone else asks "why isn't channel 9 available on ** air?"

WR Cage May 17, 2005 6:57 am

Sorry for the new post folks, I didn;t fully read the previous threads to see if the YVR Do report thread was still active, my bad. Please accept my apologies.

I was travelling through YYC on the weekend and watched as an AC ground crew worked a UAX CRJ700. The 700 was attached to gate C31 and Skycheck bags were handled.

For John Rind and crew, here is how the AC Ground ops completed the procedure:

1) While the bridge is being attached to the aircraft a baggage conveyor belt is brought to the forward hold.
2) All bags are loaded onto the conveyor but not loaded onto a cart.
3) The conveyor is then driven and raised to the side entrance to the bridge. 4) Bags are off loaded by several ramp personnel.

By the time the skycheck bags are inside the gate the pax are ready to depart. This procedure works because it takes a few minutes for the CRJ airstairs to be lowered and the gate attached.

The only problem I have with this procedure is that I will not skycheck my laptop or any fragile items, the distance between the top of the converyor belt and the ground is quite high during the above mentioned offloading process into the bridge. If my laptop fell from the top my harddrive would be toast. From this height switching to an IBM thinkpad wouldn't help.

jral May 17, 2005 8:18 am

This thread is a teriffic report! I wish I could have been there for it, but no luck. Thanks to parnel, AC & others for making it happen, and everyone else for the blow-by-blow! Real good stuff.

ALW May 17, 2005 8:36 am

I'm curious if a laptop would be safe on tarmac-based SkyCheck service. I really don't remember the process, but do they not empty contents of the SkyCheck cart onto a little conveyor belt when the load it onto the RJ?

=aw

PreferBulkhead May 17, 2005 9:37 am


Originally Posted by Andrew Webber
I'm curious if a laptop would be safe on tarmac-based SkyCheck service. I really don't remember the process, but do they not empty contents of the SkyCheck cart onto a little conveyor belt when the load it onto the RJ?
=aw

Yes - onto the belt it goes ...

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PB


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