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NAV CANADA ADVZY 001 CYYZ/CZY 02/18/2025 CDM GROUND DELAY PROGRAM |
Originally Posted by lcohen999
(Post 36902013)
It seems flight status via the app has been disabled or is down at the moment
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b798daa205.png |
Originally Posted by InTheAirGuy
(Post 36902036)
I cannot remember the last time I've logged into it (lol) and yes, the banner is there too...it was more just a statement of what is going on |
Originally Posted by briantoronto
(Post 36901672)
If I was a betting man they are trying to figure out something closer to what they can operate before they turn on the auto rebook tool.
Originally Posted by billdokes
(Post 36901835)
Not sure why people are expecting instant satisfaction from Concierge or Res or Auto-rebooking when AC doesn't even know yet from the airport what they will be able to operate and when...bit unrealistic in the middle of an evolving emergency situation IMO.
Originally Posted by billdokes
(Post 36901864)
Not sure what you expected them to do specifically when the airport was under a full closure and AC had no idea what they will be able to operate.
When I posted above, the rebooking tool WAS in full operation, and happy to offer all sorts of flights, but charging full price. All I was suggesting earlier was to engage the rebooking waiver, and not try to charge stranded passengers $2900 for a change phone agents were happily making for free at the exact same point in time. |
Originally Posted by YOWgary
(Post 36902057)
All I was suggesting earlier was to engage the rebooking waiver, and not try to charge stranded passengers $2900 for a change phone agents were happily making for free at the exact same point in time.
When the dust settles, I will reach out to CS or try insurance if need be. I am just happy I was able to get myself rebooked, given YYZ is already a mess given the weather. We will see what luck, if any tomorrow brings |
My flight today was rebooked for Feb 19..but AC only gived out one night of hotel voucher.. i am trying to call in to standby for any flights tomorrow
While I know its not AC's fault, buses can be arranged... its a 5 hour drive. In addition not upsize flights seems strange. There are a few 773 flights that already got canceled anyways |
Originally Posted by Jumper Jack
(Post 36902215)
My flight today was rebooked for Feb 19..but AC only gived out one night of hotel voucher.. i am trying to call in to standby for any flights tomorrow
While I know its not AC's fault, buses can be arranged... its a 5 hour drive. In addition not upsize flights seems strange. There are a few 773 flights that already got canceled anyways If your destination is only a 5 hr drive away I assume you could take the train or rent a car, as opposed to waiting 2 days for a flight of such a short distance, no? In terms of up-gauging aircraft, I'm sure they are, where and how it makes sense, based on aircraft/crew availability and demand. Just because they aren't doing it in your particular case it doesn't mean they aren't doing it. |
Originally Posted by billdokes
(Post 36902231)
Was AC obligated to give out a hotel voucher at all? The reason for your delay I expect is either weather or airport operations, both of which I believe are deemed outside the airline's control.
If your destination is only a 5 hr drive away I assume you could take the train or rent a car, as opposed to waiting 2 days for a flight of such a short distance, no? In terms of up-gauging aircraft, I'm sure they are, where and how it makes sense, based on aircraft/crew availability and demand. Just because they aren't doing it in your particular case it doesn't mean they aren't doing it. I have not seen any upgauging for tomorrow's flight so far, nor am I seeing any for tonight.. This is YUL-YTO we are talking about .. not some niche route to sneeze at. |
Poor IRROPS
My flight was delayed under an hour so no complaints there, however there are dozens of empty seats on AC177 and there were many at the gate (at least 6 right next to me) that gave up getting on AC177. Customer service lines up all the way into the main domestic concourse, phone lines jammed. More resources would have helped everyone who was impacted by weather and the plane crash.
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Originally Posted by Altaflyer
(Post 36902255)
My flight was delayed under an hour so no complaints there, however there are dozens of empty seats on AC177 and there were many at the gate (at least 6 right next to me) that gave up getting on AC177. Customer service lines up all the way into the main domestic concourse, phone lines jammed. More resources would have helped everyone who was impacted by weather and the plane crash.
However, it's also a long weekend, and all these people have travel benefits... And "biggest hub completely shuts down" is going to overwhelm things. I have a friend trying to get through (he's been on hold for almost 2 hours), and all he wants to do is rebook onto an earlier itinerary with availability. This should not require a phone call. SDC works for me less than 50% of the time, and I'm not sure the IRROPS rebooking flow has ever worked for me. That's certainly not helping with the phone queue. |
Originally Posted by canadiancow
(Post 36902289)
I'm 99% sure they have an "unlimited overtime no questions asked" policy right now for airport and phone agents.
However, it's also a long weekend, and all these people have travel benefits... And "biggest hub completely shuts down" is going to overwhelm things. I have a friend trying to get through (he's been on hold for almost 2 hours), and all he wants to do is rebook onto an earlier itinerary with availability. This should not require a phone call. SDC works for me less than 50% of the time, and I'm not sure the IRROPS rebooking flow has ever worked for me. That's certainly not helping with the phone queue. |
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...20dd050abf.jpg
It looks like they are priorizing elites.. i can be in queue at least. |
Originally Posted by Jumper Jack
(Post 36902215)
My flight today was rebooked for Feb 19..but AC only gived out one night of hotel voucher.. i am trying to call in to standby for any flights tomorrow
While I know its not AC's fault, buses can be arranged... its a 5 hour drive. In addition not upsize flights seems strange. There are a few 773 flights that already got canceled anyways In respect to upsizing flights,I expect that the airline would have needed to have the flights positioned once they flights could resume. YUL was literally snowed in on Sunday with 60cm+ snow. There are so many canceled flights that the hotels are full. In fairness to the airline, the weather and now the crash at YYZ are beyond the airline's control and there isn't much it could do even if it wanted. |
Originally Posted by canadiancow
(Post 36902289)
I have a friend trying to get through (he's been on hold for almost 2 hours), and all he wants to do is rebook onto an earlier itinerary with availability. This should not require a phone call. SDC works for me less than 50% of the time, and I'm not sure the IRROPS rebooking flow has ever worked for me. That's certainly not helping with the phone queue.
The system can already move passengers onto space-available flights, just need somebody to throw the "storm switch" that stops charging ADCOL for the rebook during the affected period. |
Originally Posted by YOWgary
(Post 36902523)
That's all I was looking for in my notes above.
The system can already move passengers onto space-available flights, just need somebody to throw the "storm switch" that stops charging ADCOL for the rebook during the affected period. He was also on the verge of heading to YYZ to see if he could accomplish this faster in person. My only concern was getting a non-concierge to cancel the check-in ("with checked bags"), but that was actually pretty simple. I'm glad they can do that now. IRROPS suck, but things like today (crash), or yesterday (weather) are totally understandable. Just let me self-service this stuff. |
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