IRROPs - Cancellation / Delay / Diversion etc. WITHIN 48 HOURS of departure (2024)
#166
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You could ask Aeroplan to re-book you on some alternate routing that's still available, e.g. DUS-LIS non-stop, or DUS-ZRH-LIS. Since it's IRROPs, they might be able to do something like that without being constrained by reward space. They might also be closed while this is happening or tell you to deal with LH since LH caused the disruption.
As for what LH might be able to do for you if you walk up to the counter in DUS after they cancel the flight, you would need to ask the LH forum.
#167
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ACA8478 YVR-YZF struck by lightning departing YVR yesterday.
Grounded in YZF with a related maintenance issue.
I do have a picture of the damage which I'll post when I figure out what it is.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-fjfz
Grounded in YZF with a related maintenance issue.
I do have a picture of the damage which I'll post when I figure out what it is.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-fjfz
#168
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Either IRROPS or a self upgrading passenger.
Flight diverts to BDA.
https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/ROU1879/history/20240306/2045Z/TLPL/TXKF
Flight diverts to BDA.
https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/ROU1879/history/20240306/2045Z/TLPL/TXKF
#169
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sports1 you are correct regarding NZ148, but because of NZ146 cancellation, in AC system it still showed AC6115
Now in BNE waiting for CI53 boarding, surprisingly all three flights are all on time or slightly early.
Now in BNE waiting for CI53 boarding, surprisingly all three flights are all on time or slightly early.
Definitely best of luck to anyone trying to claim APPR, regardless of reason validity. Burden of proof is on the airline, which they're not required to offer (and trust me, they can and will BS you) unless in a court of law (e.g. small claims court).
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Cancelled AC857 LHR-YYZ 15 Mar 24
Son’s flight was canceled. Can someone with EF access post the screenshot of why? He was already en route to airport in LIS so will land at LHR 12 hours before his rescheduled new flight. New LHR-YYZ will arrive YYZ too late to make final connection to MSP. Overnight at YYZ.
Can you all help with some questions?
is best place to get help in Heathrow the AC lounge? He is in J. Can agents there make changes? He is arriving from LIS on TP. Will AC lounge be easy to get to?
Can he check his cabin bag at LHR so he can go into London for the afternoon? I assume yes Where can he go to check it for onward travel?
Can I go ahead and book him at YYZ Sheraton so he doesn’t have to wait around for voucher and have to take a shuttle? Will be 2AM. Cc has delay insurance but I’d prefer AC pay since they are the ones who canceled flight.
If he prefers to spend tonight in London and reschedule both legs to tomorrow does that change anything WRT to collecting compensation for cancellation? He was informed only 10 hours before flight.
Can you all help with some questions?
is best place to get help in Heathrow the AC lounge? He is in J. Can agents there make changes? He is arriving from LIS on TP. Will AC lounge be easy to get to?
Can he check his cabin bag at LHR so he can go into London for the afternoon? I assume yes Where can he go to check it for onward travel?
Can I go ahead and book him at YYZ Sheraton so he doesn’t have to wait around for voucher and have to take a shuttle? Will be 2AM. Cc has delay insurance but I’d prefer AC pay since they are the ones who canceled flight.
If he prefers to spend tonight in London and reschedule both legs to tomorrow does that change anything WRT to collecting compensation for cancellation? He was informed only 10 hours before flight.
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Inbound AC852 was cancelled for "perf" after earlier operational controls and waiting for standby aircraft
As a result AC857 lhr-yyz was cancelled DELAY 03 FLIGHT CANCELLED 2020 TECH
As a result AC857 lhr-yyz was cancelled DELAY 03 FLIGHT CANCELLED 2020 TECH
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Thanks. I want to have as data as possible for filing APPR.
Given the two prior flights with this tail number were also canceled, I would’ve thought they’d send a different aircraft.
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Depending on when your son is arriving at his original destination, look into compensation under EU261/2004, which was also adopted by the UK after the Brexit. Given that he is travelling more than 3,500 km, compensation of EUR 600 / GBP 520 applies.
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You would think so, provided they have one sitting on the tarmac to fly to LHR. Here are the details from EF for the inbound flight AC852 (there is no record in EF for AC7057 YUL-YYZ):
Depending on when your son is arriving at his original destination, look into compensation under EU261/2004, which was also adopted by the UK after the Brexit. Given that he is travelling more than 3,500 km, compensation of EUR 600 / GBP 520 applies.
Depending on when your son is arriving at his original destination, look into compensation under EU261/2004, which was also adopted by the UK after the Brexit. Given that he is travelling more than 3,500 km, compensation of EUR 600 / GBP 520 applies.
#176
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If you decide to take the train, you need to make sure the DUS-FRA-AMS segments get deleted, which can be problematic if you're still checked in - I ran in to this last year. AC couldn't re-book me until an LH agent offloaded me from the flight, even though LH had cancelled the flight altogether (because the flight was cancelled, I couldn't cancel my own check-in).
You could ask Aeroplan to re-book you on some alternate routing that's still available, e.g. DUS-LIS non-stop, or DUS-ZRH-LIS. Since it's IRROPs, they might be able to do something like that without being constrained by reward space. They might also be closed while this is happening or tell you to deal with LH since LH caused the disruption.
As for what LH might be able to do for you if you walk up to the counter in DUS after they cancel the flight, you would need to ask the LH forum.
You could ask Aeroplan to re-book you on some alternate routing that's still available, e.g. DUS-LIS non-stop, or DUS-ZRH-LIS. Since it's IRROPs, they might be able to do something like that without being constrained by reward space. They might also be closed while this is happening or tell you to deal with LH since LH caused the disruption.
As for what LH might be able to do for you if you walk up to the counter in DUS after they cancel the flight, you would need to ask the LH forum.
that once a Travel Advisory is in place they will rebook whatever route/carrier they can to get me to final destination.
As an example she said there was an option on Air Serbia thru Belgrade that she could access in order to avoid another option that involved an over-night.
And she warned me to NOT check-in for the flights for the reasons that Adam mentioned in his post.
Fingers crossed there'll be no strike action on 25 March !
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My afternoon BOS to YYZ flight AC771 delayed and changed from an A220 to an A321. Never took a flight of this route with a plane larger than an A220 and got pretty surprised.
At least the J seat will be wider.
At least the J seat will be wider.
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Can anyone tell me where in EF I can get another flight delay cause? I have an account though currently lapsed bc haven’t needed until now. AC2157 on 3/15 was delayed 10 hours (departed 3/16 ultimately).
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So does this sound like "within airline control"? I'm not familiar enough with the codes and what they mean. Thanks.