canadiancow

Yes, you want to make a voluntary change, so you pay the change fee.

Tomasz Pa

it is just $100 canadians so pretty cheap for an upgrade.

michaelpowell44

Makes sense!

YYJMSP

Doesn't the fare rule matter?

We had segments on UA booked in Y and when J opened up, we just had to pay the difference in points+taxes/exchange, as the fare rule said change fee is waived if upgrading from economy to business reward...

YOWgary

As the original article notes, partner awards operate differently in this respect than AC-operated award flights.

tracon

Not when you factor in that J points were redeemed for the Y seat.
$100 + J level points is paying twice for the same product.
vs. paying J points and sitting is Y is paying once and not getting what you paid for.

Tomasz Pa

So why you booked with segment in Y if you belived price was not fair? Partner awards on aeroplan, lifemiles and other programs were always working like that. Mixed awards were actually introduced to allow booking long haul J with short haul in Y to overcome limited avalabilty on short haul and allow for traveling on same PNR instead of booking two separate segments.

Anyway as I mentioned $100 candians is cheap for change. Lifemiles would charge $150 american for same change. Not to mention that you will fly long haul J for cheap as you are lucky to book with miles.

pilot007

I'm looking at a J redemption to SIN later this month, seeing YYZ to NRT on August 29th with R9, and NH has seats in I for the NRT to SIN leg, so why is Aeroplan only offering me a mixed cabin booking with the YYZ to NRT leg ticketed in J, but seated in Y? Is this because of some married segment logic?

YOWgary

R and I do not determine what AC offers as mixed-cabin or not.

If I'm reading you correctly, this is being offered to you in Business Lowest, with the YYZ-NRT leg seated in Y, and the NRT-SIN leg seated in J. Is that correct?

If so, then the solution is exactly as described in the first post of this thread; click through to "Business Flexible" and you'll be offered the exact same flights but with the AC segment in J at a higher overall price. Note that if you book this in Biz Flex departing YYZ, you'll have access to the Signature Suite before departure.



There is no married-segment logic of any kind at play here; AC simply wants to sell you the J seat on YYZ-NRT at a substantially higher price.

Alternatively, on that same date you could pay ~101K for a Biz Flex booking YYZ-SFO-SIN, with the short leg in AC Signature and the long leg in United Polaris.

Ironically, if and when that YYZ-SFO leg is inevitably delayed - and it'd take very little delay to break that connection - you may well be able to get the concierge to book you onto the YYZ-NRT-SIN routing you wanted to fly in the first place.

pilot007

Thanks, yes that's correct. For some reason I thought it was R that determined availability on the AC segment. I'm rarely booking rewards so get confused easily when I do book them.

PLeblond

Thanks YOWgary . I was losing faith about the content around here and you just provided a ray of hope.

pilot007

The first post contains some great details, as I'm sure the rest of the thread does, but maybe a wiki would help since there's a lot to digest/parse in some of these posts. Not all of us are Aeroplan regulars. I just earn my SQM and SQD and infrequently redeem.

canadiancow

You (and other members with 90 days and 90 posts or whatever the requirement is) can create a wiki.

Most "experts" can answer a question in 30 seconds, but it might take us hours to imagine the questions and write the answers.

So if a wiki appeared with a FAQ (without any answers), I'm sure the answers would get filled in by various members as time allowed.

YOWgary

I can probably write a wiki on my transcon on Wednesday.

oaustin

How does the "% in Business Class" work? Are you just rolling the dice on whether or not you end up in business class?