A deep dive on mixed-cabin awards with Mark Nasr
Jul 17, 2022, 7:45 am
#91
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 1
Mixed cabin air canada
So when I tried to book premium economy, the booking states “mixed cabin” flight on air Canada. IAH to ICN with layover in Toronto. The first segment (IAH to Toronto) is economy class. Then the second segment (Toronto to ICN) is Premium Economy.
Would I still be able to get the priority perks with the first segment (IAH to Toronto)? Such as priority check in, priority baggage, priority boarding? Would the boarding pass show priority boarding ?
Would I still be able to get the priority perks with the first segment (IAH to Toronto)? Such as priority check in, priority baggage, priority boarding? Would the boarding pass show priority boarding ?
Oct 13, 2022, 7:58 pm
#93
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 35
One of the flights is economy (N) in a mixed cabin business (I) award on partner metal entirely.
Recently, it took 2-3 hours to talk to an agent.
I don't want to lose the I-space opportunity. If I-space opens up, can I redeem it as a new award ticket (PNR) and call the agent, within 24 hours refundable window, to cancel the new award ticket and move my original (N) seat to (I) seat?
Is the (I) seat available right after an award ticket is cancelled?
Thanks in advance.
Recently, it took 2-3 hours to talk to an agent.
I don't want to lose the I-space opportunity. If I-space opens up, can I redeem it as a new award ticket (PNR) and call the agent, within 24 hours refundable window, to cancel the new award ticket and move my original (N) seat to (I) seat?
Is the (I) seat available right after an award ticket is cancelled?
Thanks in advance.
Last edited by andye; Oct 13, 2022 at 9:04 pm
Oct 14, 2022, 1:40 am
#94
Original Poster
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, FOTSG Platinum
Posts: 5,734
One of the flights is economy (N) in a mixed cabin business (I) award on partner metal entirely.
Recently, it took 2-3 hours to talk to an agent.
I don't want to lose the I-space opportunity. If I-space opens up, can I redeem it as a new award ticket (PNR) and call the agent, within 24 hours refundable window, to cancel the new award ticket and move my original (N) seat to (I) seat?
Is the (I) seat available right after an award ticket is cancelled?
Thanks in advance.
Recently, it took 2-3 hours to talk to an agent.
I don't want to lose the I-space opportunity. If I-space opens up, can I redeem it as a new award ticket (PNR) and call the agent, within 24 hours refundable window, to cancel the new award ticket and move my original (N) seat to (I) seat?
Is the (I) seat available right after an award ticket is cancelled?
Thanks in advance.
It might, but it's definitely not something to count on.
Feb 11, 2023, 1:34 pm
#95
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Prince Edward Island
Programs: Air Canada P25K, Hilton Honors Gold, Marriott Gold, MGM Gold
Posts: 1,582
Here's a question that I can't find the answer to. If I want to e-up the economy leg of a mixed cabin flight, does the clearance window open right away like latitude fares, or just a few days before the flight?
The business lowest option is economy X from YUL to Milan and then J on a partner airline to Rome. If the e-up window opens right away, I'd use that for the YUL-Milan leg.
If not, I will just buy a latitude fare and e-up that right away. This is an aeroplan redemption, and both options are very close in price. The second option would downgrade the partner flight but it's just an hour long, so no big deal.
The business lowest option is economy X from YUL to Milan and then J on a partner airline to Rome. If the e-up window opens right away, I'd use that for the YUL-Milan leg.
If not, I will just buy a latitude fare and e-up that right away. This is an aeroplan redemption, and both options are very close in price. The second option would downgrade the partner flight but it's just an hour long, so no big deal.
Feb 11, 2023, 1:50 pm
#96
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: USA
Programs: AC SE100K, F9 100k, NK Gold, UA *S, Hyatt Glob, Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 5,207
It seems like latitude is what you'd want. Unless you have a bad feeling about irrops or schedule changes... confirmed eup only entitles you to your booked class of service (Y) on a replacement AC or partner flight
Feb 11, 2023, 1:54 pm
#97
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, FOTSG Platinum
Posts: 5,734
Here's a question that I can't find the answer to. If I want to e-up the economy leg of a mixed cabin flight, does the clearance window open right away like latitude fares, or just a few days before the flight?
The business lowest option is economy X from YUL to Milan and then J on a partner airline to Rome. If the e-up window opens right away, I'd use that for the YUL-Milan leg.
If not, I will just buy a latitude fare and e-up that right away. This is an aeroplan redemption, and both options are very close in price. The second option would downgrade the partner flight but it's just an hour long, so no big deal.
The business lowest option is economy X from YUL to Milan and then J on a partner airline to Rome. If the e-up window opens right away, I'd use that for the YUL-Milan leg.
If not, I will just buy a latitude fare and e-up that right away. This is an aeroplan redemption, and both options are very close in price. The second option would downgrade the partner flight but it's just an hour long, so no big deal.
The theoretical answer is that it’s neither consistent nor predictable what letter code or fare basis a mixed segment on a Business Lowest award will book into, and I’m not sure the community has built up enough data points to spot any particular patterns.
Feb 11, 2023, 1:59 pm
#98
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Prince Edward Island
Programs: Air Canada P25K, Hilton Honors Gold, Marriott Gold, MGM Gold
Posts: 1,582
A J lowest redemption would not clear any Y segments until your normal status eup clearance window per the award charts.
It seems like latitude is what you'd want. Unless you have a bad feeling about irrops or schedule changes... confirmed eup only entitles you to your booked class of service (Y) on a replacement AC or partner flight
It seems like latitude is what you'd want. Unless you have a bad feeling about irrops or schedule changes... confirmed eup only entitles you to your booked class of service (Y) on a replacement AC or partner flight
Feb 11, 2023, 4:48 pm
#99
Join Date: Dec 2022
Posts: 385
For a mixed cabin redemption involving partner J leg and AC metal on lower cabin, the AC leg(s) can only be booked into the award space, i.e. only N or X. The fare basis will be fixed, IBP00AEL if partner leg is on J or NBP00APL if partner leg is on O (note that very few partner has award space for PE so this will require more DPs).
For a mixed cabin redemption involving only AC metals, the lower cabin legs, again, can only be booked in to N or X space, and the fare basis would be determined on the cash availability bucket for the higher cabin leg(s).
I’d love if someone has some counter DPs but so far this is what I have gathered and inferred from my personal DPs.
Feb 11, 2023, 8:34 pm
#100
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, FOTSG Platinum
Posts: 5,734
Feb 13, 2023, 1:03 pm
#101
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: YVR, KUL
Programs: AC, MH, BA, AF-KL
Posts: 2,904
Some part of it is actually very predictable.
For a mixed cabin redemption involving partner J leg and AC metal on lower cabin, the AC leg(s) can only be booked into the award space, i.e. only N or X. The fare basis will be fixed, IBP00AEL if partner leg is on J or NBP00APL if partner leg is on O (note that very few partner has award space for PE so this will require more DPs).
For a mixed cabin redemption involving only AC metals, the lower cabin legs, again, can only be booked in to N or X space, and the fare basis would be determined on the cash availability bucket for the higher cabin leg(s).
For a mixed cabin redemption involving partner J leg and AC metal on lower cabin, the AC leg(s) can only be booked into the award space, i.e. only N or X. The fare basis will be fixed, IBP00AEL if partner leg is on J or NBP00APL if partner leg is on O (note that very few partner has award space for PE so this will require more DPs).
For a mixed cabin redemption involving only AC metals, the lower cabin legs, again, can only be booked in to N or X space, and the fare basis would be determined on the cash availability bucket for the higher cabin leg(s).
Feb 13, 2023, 2:33 pm
#102
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Vancouver, BC
Programs: Aeroplan 35K, Hertz Gold
Posts: 1,290
Aeroplan reward tickets can book into any of AC's Y fare buckets for AC metal, regardless whether there's a partner flight on the itinerary. It doesn't really matter which fare bucket it books to, the reward pricing will be based on what's available. Your ticket restrictions/conditions will be based off of the fare basis, not the fare buckets used. I actually haven't had AC metal on a reward ticket book in X since the program revamp, though I'm sure it can still happen, and I've had partner flights on the ticket as well.
Mar 7, 2023, 1:52 pm
#103
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 81
A question for you all.
For a mixed cabin redemption on partner airlines (MIA - FRA in Y // FRA - SGN in J), if business award seat opens up for the MIA - FRA flight, do I get upgraded to business automatically? Or would I have to keep an eye on business award seat opening up and call in Aeroplan manually to get it changed?
For a mixed cabin redemption on partner airlines (MIA - FRA in Y // FRA - SGN in J), if business award seat opens up for the MIA - FRA flight, do I get upgraded to business automatically? Or would I have to keep an eye on business award seat opening up and call in Aeroplan manually to get it changed?
Mar 7, 2023, 4:03 pm
#104
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC*SE 2MM
Posts: 16,655
A question for you all.
For a mixed cabin redemption on partner airlines (MIA - FRA in Y // FRA - SGN in J), if business award seat opens up for the MIA - FRA flight, do I get upgraded to business automatically? Or would I have to keep an eye on business award seat opening up and call in Aeroplan manually to get it changed?
For a mixed cabin redemption on partner airlines (MIA - FRA in Y // FRA - SGN in J), if business award seat opens up for the MIA - FRA flight, do I get upgraded to business automatically? Or would I have to keep an eye on business award seat opening up and call in Aeroplan manually to get it changed?
May 22, 2023, 1:52 pm
#105
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: southUSA
Posts: 398
Data, point, Mixed cabin business award with one short haul segment in economy. Business opened up for that segment. Multiple back and forth with support and supervisor but all I get is I must pay the change fee to upgrade that segment. Anyone else getting this?