A deep dive on mixed-cabin awards with Mark Nasr
Dec 17, 2020, 6:02 pm
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And for my cynicism - well, OP just posted this elsewhere so do we really believe anything AC has to say.
Dec 17, 2020, 6:11 pm
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I've put a fair bit of work into tracking down some information I felt would be valuable to this community, and the frequent-flyer community at large.
I'd probably do best to ignore your comments, but you've come close enough to some pretty remarkable accusations that I'd like you to explain yourself, please.
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May 24, 2021, 11:14 am
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Aeroplan business lowest, but economy seating
I am booking a flight using AP from YVR to ATH with a stopover in YYZ. Looking for business class, so there is Business Lowest that gives you economy class from YVR to YYZ but business class from YYZ to ATH for 75K AP, or if I want business class the whole way it is 105K AP (business flexible). If I book the business lowest option, if there are seats in J would I be on the upgrade list for the YVR to YYZ flight or would I be seated in Y for the YVR to YYZ portion no matter what?
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May 24, 2021, 11:36 am
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I am booking a flight using AP from YVR to ATH with a stopover in YYZ. Looking for business class, so there is Business Lowest that gives you economy class from YVR to YYZ but business class from YYZ to ATH for 75K AP, or if I want business class the whole way it is 105K AP (business flexible). If I book the business lowest option, if there are seats in J would I be on the upgrade list for the YVR to YYZ flight or would I be seated in Y for the YVR to YYZ portion no matter what?
On a Business Lowest ticket with one or more segments seated in Economy, you will not be added to the upgrade list in advance or at the gate. If you see an attractive Business Lowest award fare pop up before departure, you can call in and change to this award, subject to any fare difference.
You will be eligible to use eUpgrades as if you had booked the Economy segment on its own, but I believe these book into Economy Standard by default.
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May 24, 2021, 12:31 pm
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You'll get what you booked.
On a Business Lowest ticket with one or more segments seated in Economy, you will not be added to the upgrade list in advance or at the gate. If you see an attractive Business Lowest award fare pop up before departure, you can call in and change to this award, subject to any fare difference.
You will be eligible to use eUpgrades as if you had booked the Economy segment on its own, but I believe these book into Economy Standard by default.
On a Business Lowest ticket with one or more segments seated in Economy, you will not be added to the upgrade list in advance or at the gate. If you see an attractive Business Lowest award fare pop up before departure, you can call in and change to this award, subject to any fare difference.
You will be eligible to use eUpgrades as if you had booked the Economy segment on its own, but I believe these book into Economy Standard by default.
Aug 22, 2021, 10:35 pm
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And the flight in question is J9 R4 Y9...
AC just gives me more reasons to hate this new program all the time.
Sep 28, 2021, 2:32 pm
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Great work YOWgary!
I am running into a situation and two AC agents on phone refused to budge. I have a OW reward flight DEL-FRA-SFO in J with both segments on LH. Now, for FRA-SFO F space opened up (lowest) and it shows on AC search engine. But when I called AC to upgrade that segment to F, they say they can't do it without breaking the ticket. That does not sound right to me.
Any thoughts?
I am running into a situation and two AC agents on phone refused to budge. I have a OW reward flight DEL-FRA-SFO in J with both segments on LH. Now, for FRA-SFO F space opened up (lowest) and it shows on AC search engine. But when I called AC to upgrade that segment to F, they say they can't do it without breaking the ticket. That does not sound right to me.
Any thoughts?
Sep 28, 2021, 4:03 pm
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Great work YOWgary!
I am running into a situation and two AC agents on phone refused to budge. I have a OW reward flight DEL-FRA-SFO in J with both segments on LH. Now, for FRA-SFO F space opened up (lowest) and it shows on AC search engine. But when I called AC to upgrade that segment to F, they say they can't do it without breaking the ticket. That does not sound right to me.
Any thoughts?
I am running into a situation and two AC agents on phone refused to budge. I have a OW reward flight DEL-FRA-SFO in J with both segments on LH. Now, for FRA-SFO F space opened up (lowest) and it shows on AC search engine. But when I called AC to upgrade that segment to F, they say they can't do it without breaking the ticket. That does not sound right to me.
Any thoughts?
Do you have enough points to just rebook a new award?
Oct 18, 2021, 1:56 am
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Standby for Business Upgrade
Just wondering, with all the recent changes, does Aeroplan still do standby for upgrades if your ticket is in J? Booked AUH to YVR through YYZ but the YYZ to YVR leg is in Premium Econ. Just wondering if I can standby to grab J for that route. Not a big deal if not, but pods would be nice. Thanks!
Oct 18, 2021, 2:06 am
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No. You had the option to book a flexible reward, which had the YYZ-YVR in J, but you decided it wasn't worth the price, so you get exactly what you pay for.