AC in "crack down" on carry-on bags
Sep 30, 2014, 3:30 pm
#76
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They've been enforcing carry-ons for a while at SFO, although they're usually pretty reasonable. Each time I've been in J, they haven't forced me to put my back in the sizer (it is legal, but it's frustrating to do this during the boarding process).
Sep 30, 2014, 3:33 pm
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Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I didn't mean safety from something falling or similar. What I meant is that there is a tolerance from the aircraft manufacture as to how much weight can actually be in the bins, ie: what the bins are rated to be able to hold.
So I fully support and hope that the weight limit is increased but I of course don't want them to risk exceeding the manufacture weight limit on the bins.
Now yes, many airlines have eliminated the limit saying simply that you have to be able to lift it into the bin unassisted. They have clearly done the study to figure out that they can do this without hitting the limit. If this is the case all the better!
So I fully support and hope that the weight limit is increased but I of course don't want them to risk exceeding the manufacture weight limit on the bins.
Now yes, many airlines have eliminated the limit saying simply that you have to be able to lift it into the bin unassisted. They have clearly done the study to figure out that they can do this without hitting the limit. If this is the case all the better!
And as far as: use a duffle bag. You might have to do that while flying small charter aircraft in Africa, but this is not that. Not least due to not having the strict limit of 10 kg per passenger per flight like small African charter flights do. (And many other parts of the world too, I assume.) People use roller bags because, in many instances, carrying bags around every day can cause real health concerns, like back problems, even if they weigh less than 10 kg. The wheel was invented a long time ago. Maybe it is time you took advantage of it?
Sep 30, 2014, 3:39 pm
#78
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We all know the weight limits are really there to save fuel.
Take an average of 200 people with 5Kg less? 1000Kg of less load on average (or more space for pricier/kg cargo).
This is sadly going to give the US carriers bad ideas about weight limits.
Take an average of 200 people with 5Kg less? 1000Kg of less load on average (or more space for pricier/kg cargo).
This is sadly going to give the US carriers bad ideas about weight limits.
Sep 30, 2014, 3:42 pm
#79
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Was AC having problems with carry-on bags? Were they delaying flights? Were they injuring people (like, say, the Rouge seats)?
If not, a lot of the standard vindictiveness on display on this thread is nonsensical. This has nothing to do with 'rules' and people 'not following rules'; why should it be 2 bags at 10 kg each and not, as CA requires on domestic flights, 1 bag at 5kg? Beyond the dimension of the overhead bin, its all arbitrary and any support for these 'rules' is based, presumably, on the notion that the airline knows best (consumers don't have brains, apparently).
One imagines that if the airline banned using the left armrest tomorrow, and began enforcing it two years down the line, many folk here would applaud themselves for following the airline's rule for two years, and criticize the pax who flouted that rule, conveniently ignoring the reality that they're no better off for it ; everyone is simply worse off. I suspect the tangible negative impact of people carrying oversize/overweight carry on bags is close to zero, pointless self-righteousness notwithstanding, and if one thinks those checked baggage delivery times are going to get better, well, good luck.
The long and short of it is that this is a cash grab. They're charging for checked bags, so it makes sense to maximize revenue by limiting ways to avoid it and funnelling more money into the system. More fees=more profit. Will they hire more baggage handlers to deal with the fallout? Probably not.
I've started treating this nickel and diming like charity. Just give money away and expect nothing in return. Except that, in this case, we'll probably end up getting less than nothing insofar as even longer baggage wait times count as a negative.
If not, a lot of the standard vindictiveness on display on this thread is nonsensical. This has nothing to do with 'rules' and people 'not following rules'; why should it be 2 bags at 10 kg each and not, as CA requires on domestic flights, 1 bag at 5kg? Beyond the dimension of the overhead bin, its all arbitrary and any support for these 'rules' is based, presumably, on the notion that the airline knows best (consumers don't have brains, apparently).
One imagines that if the airline banned using the left armrest tomorrow, and began enforcing it two years down the line, many folk here would applaud themselves for following the airline's rule for two years, and criticize the pax who flouted that rule, conveniently ignoring the reality that they're no better off for it ; everyone is simply worse off. I suspect the tangible negative impact of people carrying oversize/overweight carry on bags is close to zero, pointless self-righteousness notwithstanding, and if one thinks those checked baggage delivery times are going to get better, well, good luck.
The long and short of it is that this is a cash grab. They're charging for checked bags, so it makes sense to maximize revenue by limiting ways to avoid it and funnelling more money into the system. More fees=more profit. Will they hire more baggage handlers to deal with the fallout? Probably not.
I've started treating this nickel and diming like charity. Just give money away and expect nothing in return. Except that, in this case, we'll probably end up getting less than nothing insofar as even longer baggage wait times count as a negative.
Sep 30, 2014, 3:52 pm
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Sep 30, 2014, 3:54 pm
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This is interesting, WestJet has removed its 10kg weight restriction for its carry-on luggage:
http://www.westjet.com/guest/en/trav...carry-on.shtml
Given that both WestJet and United don't have strict weight limits, AC needs to do the same, or at least up theirs to something reasonable.
If they're going to enforce carry-ons, having each pax put them in the sizer and also weigh them is simply too time consuming.
http://www.westjet.com/guest/en/trav...carry-on.shtml
Given that both WestJet and United don't have strict weight limits, AC needs to do the same, or at least up theirs to something reasonable.
If they're going to enforce carry-ons, having each pax put them in the sizer and also weigh them is simply too time consuming.
It's now Weight Watchers for bags
Sep 30, 2014, 4:12 pm
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That is right. I have been in J and been able to get the FA to put my bag in the closet. In Y, you will be forced to check.
Sep 30, 2014, 4:27 pm
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So they're trying to head that off at the pass by enforcing the rules.
Sep 30, 2014, 4:29 pm
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That is right. I have been in J and been able to get the FA to put my bag in the closet. In Y, you will be forced to check.
Sep 30, 2014, 4:35 pm
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Back in June leaving SFO, one AC GA pulled people out of the boarding line and made them stuff their bags and purses (?) in the sizer, then forced people to gate check. It seemed her focus was on older kettles. So, to see what happens tomorrow on my YYZ-SFO, I've taking the back-pack instead of the roller - and a jacket with lots of pockets
Sep 30, 2014, 4:41 pm
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I hope AC remembers to treat us :-: :-: Super Elites :-: :-: properly and exempt us from all this hassle
If I don't check bags, I sure as heck won't check my privilege at the door
If I don't check bags, I sure as heck won't check my privilege at the door
Sep 30, 2014, 4:59 pm
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Super Elite? Your privilege is for checked bags (up to 3 no charge) and not to bring the kitchen sink on board! I don't want it above my head!
Sep 30, 2014, 5:04 pm
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Precisely. The wailing of the SEs and the DYKWIA types is a symphony of the entitled who are suddenly required to live within simple rules. I look forward with keen anticipation to seeing their whining performances live and in person.
Sep 30, 2014, 5:07 pm
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Sep 30, 2014, 5:07 pm
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[QUOTE=ridefar;23605935]
Actually I think they have decades of data now to support that the limit can be increased. It is called real life. If anybody thinks that the maximum ever found in a single bin is 30 kg they are dreaming. I would bet the vast majority of roll on baggage is in excess of 10 kg.
The placarded weight limit of the bin is based on the 9G crash requirement.
Actually I think they have decades of data now to support that the limit can be increased. It is called real life. If anybody thinks that the maximum ever found in a single bin is 30 kg they are dreaming. I would bet the vast majority of roll on baggage is in excess of 10 kg.