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Old Aug 21, 2015, 9:39 pm
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2016 777 Routes

*FAQ
Q: Are all 777s refurbished?
A: Yes, all active 777s have the new configuration (Executive Pod) J suites, Premium Economy, and 10-across Economy seats.

Q: Are the dividers in the middle J seats moveable? Can they be slid up/down?
A: No, all Dream Cabin J seat dividers do not come down and are fixed in place.

Summer 2016 777 International Routes
End of summer schedule changes will be added in the future

77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
Calgary – London Heathrow: AC850/851
Toronto – Hong Kong: AC15/16
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC858/859
Toronto – Vancouver – Sydney: AC33/34

77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
Toronto – Beijing: AC31/32
Toronto – Frankfurt: AC872/873
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC856/869
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC848/849
Toronto – Paris CDG: AC880/881
Toronto – Rome Fiumicino: AC890/891 until Sep 12 (out), Sep 13 (in)
Toronto – Shanghai Pudong: AC87/88
Toronto – Tokyo Haneda: AC5/6
Vancouver – Shanghai Pudong: AC25/26
Vancouver – Tokyo Narita: AC3/4

77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
Montreal – London Heathrow: AC864/865
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC870/871
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC884/885
Vancouver – Beijing: AC29/30
Vancouver – Hong Kong: AC7/8
Vancouver – London Heathrow: AC854/855

Code:
 
 Aircraft Tracking (last updated Jun 16, 2016)
 Plane       Status       Location Details
 
 77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
 C-FIUA-701  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Apr 09/16  Out:May 09/16  (30 days)
 C-FIUF-702  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Nov 08/15  Out:Dec 27/15  (49 days)
 C-FIUJ-703  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Dec 27/15  Out:Feb 04/16  (39 days)
 C-FIVK-704  Done         Loc:HKG  In:May 09/16  Out:Jun 08/16  (30 days)
 C-FNND-705  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Mar 09/16  Out:Apr 09/16  (31 days)
 C-FNNH-706  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Feb 04/16  Out:Mar 09/16  (34 days)
 
 77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
 C-FITL-731  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Sep 01/15  Out:Nov 20/15  (80 Days)
 C-FITU-732  Done         Loc:GSO  In:May 03/16  Out:Jun 05/16  (33 days)
 C-FITW-733  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Nov 23/15  Out:Jan 06/16  (45 days)
 C-FIUL-734  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Mar 16/16  Out:Apr 17/16  (32 days)  
 C-FIUR-735  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Dec 09/15  Out:Jan 18/16  (40 days)
 C-FIUV-736  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Feb 26/16  Out:Apr 02/16  (36 days)
 C-FIUW-737  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Jan 06/16  Out:Feb 12/16  (37 days)
 C-FIVM-738  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Feb 13/16  Out:Mar 16/16  (32 days)
 C-FRAM-739  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Apr 02/16  Out:May 02/16  (30 days)
 C-FIVQ-740  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Jan 20/16  Out:Feb 26/16  (37 days)
 C-FIVR-741  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Apr 17/16  Out:May 17/16  (30 days)
 C-FIVS-742  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Oct 23/15  Out:Dec 08/15  (46 days)
 
 77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
 C-FIVW-743  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Mar 28/16  Out:Apr 23/16  (26 days)
 C-FIVX-744  Done         Loc:YMX  In:May 21/16  Out:Jun 03/16  (13 days)
 C-FNNQ-745  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Jun 03/16  Out:Jun 16/16  (13 days)
 C-FNNU-746  Done         Loc:YMX  In:May 06/16  Out:May 21/16  (15 days)
 C-FNNW-747  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Apr 23/16  Out:May 06/16  (13 days)
 C-FJZS-748  In Service   Loc:YMX  FF:Mar 24/16  Del:Apr 26/16  EIS:May 18/16
 C-FKAU-749  In Service   Loc:YMX  FF:May 01/16  Del:May 21/16  EIS:Jun 10/16


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Old Mar 1, 2017, 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Adam Smith
Sorry. Damned bean-counters! Anyone with a CPA working at AC HQ should be forced to only use bathrooms on planes that have just returned from TATLs and TPACs and they should be forced to eat all their food directly off airplane tray tables!!!!!

Only then will those penny-pinchers understand the DISGUSTING conditions they're forcing us to live in!!!

That better?
This would result in everyone with a CPA at AC HQ going off sick.
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Old Mar 1, 2017, 5:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Adam Smith
Sorry. Damned bean-counters! Anyone with a CPA working at AC HQ should be forced to only use bathrooms on planes that have just returned from TATLs and TPACs and they should be forced to eat all their food directly off airplane tray tables!!!!!

Only then will those penny-pinchers understand the DISGUSTING conditions they're forcing us to live in!!!

That better?
Perfect! I think you'll fit in just fine here! ^
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Old Mar 29, 2017, 10:08 am
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Trying to figure out the best seat in PE on a flight from YYZ-LHR. The plane appears to be a 777-200. I have the choice of 14C or 12H. I'd prefer to have 14C since there's no one behind that seat -- but on Seatguru they claim that the recline doesn't go back as far. BUT, there's a review on Seatguru that indicates that there were no recline issues when he sat in that seat.

Anyone with some experience on the 777-200 care to weigh in?
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Old Mar 29, 2017, 11:09 am
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Originally Posted by Sam_AE
Trying to figure out the best seat in PE on a flight from YYZ-LHR. The plane appears to be a 777-200. I have the choice of 14C or 12H. I'd prefer to have 14C since there's no one behind that seat -- but on Seatguru they claim that the recline doesn't go back as far. BUT, there's a review on Seatguru that indicates that there were no recline issues when he sat in that seat.

Anyone with some experience on the 777-200 care to weigh in?
12C is missing a footrest so if that's important to you I would avoid. I've sat in 14 on 777 before and I didn't notice a limited recline. It seemed like 13 went back further but that might be just because of the fact it reclines into 14's space.

I always try and get row 13 in PE but I would opt for 14 if not available since storage is better, ability to put bag under seat during flight and there being a footrest.
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Old Mar 29, 2017, 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Sam_AE
Trying to figure out the best seat in PE on a flight from YYZ-LHR. The plane appears to be a 777-200. I have the choice of 14C or 12H. I'd prefer to have 14C since there's no one behind that seat -- but on Seatguru they claim that the recline doesn't go back as far. BUT, there's a review on Seatguru that indicates that there were no recline issues when he sat in that seat.

Anyone with some experience on the 777-200 care to weigh in?
Pros of 12H over 14C: more knee room, no one reclines into your space, your seatmate doesn't have to wake you up to get out,
Cons of 12H over 14C: limited leg room, no foot rest, IFE screen in the armrest so you can't use it during take-off/landing

Also 14C reclines normally.
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Old Mar 29, 2017, 2:59 pm
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Originally Posted by songsc
Pros of 12H over 14C: more knee room, no one reclines into your space, your seatmate doesn't have to wake you up to get out,
Cons of 12H over 14C: limited leg room, no foot rest, IFE screen in the armrest so you can't use it during take-off/landing

Also 14C reclines normally.
Thanks for this. VERY helpful. I think I'll stick with 14C.
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Old Mar 29, 2017, 6:13 pm
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IIRC 14D,E,F,G do not recline as far as rows 12 and 13 due to the bulkhead behind the seat. I think AC and H-K recline further, but not sure if they recline as much as 12 and 13.
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Old Mar 29, 2017, 7:23 pm
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TFW your route get HDed
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Old Apr 10, 2017, 1:51 pm
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The refurb 77L and 400 seat 77Ws have the new 787 Y seats with new IFE?

That means only the 333 and remaining 763s have the old Y seats with old IFE now?
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Old Apr 10, 2017, 1:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Jumper Jack
Is there any practical difference (in either Y or J) between HD and non-HD now?
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Old Apr 10, 2017, 2:31 pm
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Originally Posted by newcdn
The refurb 77L and 400 seat 77Ws have the new 787 Y seats with new IFE?

That means only the 333 and remaining 763s have the old Y seats with old IFE now?
I've seen conflicting information, but I think the original 2-class 77Ws, the 77Ls and newly-delivered HDs (2016+ iirc) have the new 787 seats with Panasonic ex3 AVOD. The original 5 HDs have ex2 AVOD still, I believe.

333 and 763 continue to have the (old) comfy seats, with the old THALES AVOD, even in the newly-retrofitted PY section of the 333.
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Old Jun 15, 2017, 12:34 pm
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Can someone remind me which rows in J on the 77L have missing / misaligned windows?
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Old Jun 19, 2017, 12:25 pm
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Does anyone have any experience in Rows 61-64 of the 777? I'm looking at a TATL flight with the wife and the one thing making me consider sitting at the back of the bus is that these rows are 2-4-2 so the wife and I can sit in a 2 and have slightly more comfort than a window and an aisle would afford. The seats also appear angled on the seatmap so not sure if that helps or hinders with legroom.

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...ard/fleet.html
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Old Jun 20, 2017, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by TOR27
Does anyone have any experience in Rows 61-64 of the 777? I'm looking at a TATL flight with the wife and the one thing making me consider sitting at the back of the bus is that these rows are 2-4-2 so the wife and I can sit in a 2 and have slightly more comfort than a window and an aisle would afford. The seats also appear angled on the seatmap so not sure if that helps or hinders with legroom.

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...ard/fleet.html
Flew row 62 to SYD in March. I've done 10+ long haul legs this year on 777 and 787, and my best Y experience was row 62. Lots to room to stand up, wander to the back and stretch or talk to others. There's room for more storage between the window seat and the wall. Only downside I found was the chance your preferred meal option would run out before you were served, and the length of time it took for everyone to offload on arrival. I would suggest not row 61 as the first 2 seats are at an angle compared to the seat back screens of the 3 in front.
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Old Jun 20, 2017, 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by ctf12
Flew row 62 to SYD in March. I've done 10+ long haul legs this year on 777 and 787, and my best Y experience was row 62. Lots to room to stand up, wander to the back and stretch or talk to others. There's room for more storage between the window seat and the wall. Only downside I found was the chance your preferred meal option would run out before you were served, and the length of time it took for everyone to offload on arrival. I would suggest not row 61 as the first 2 seats are at an angle compared to the seat back screens of the 3 in front.
Thanks! Much appreciated!!
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