Aug 21, 2015, 9:39 pm
Last edit by: briguychau
2016 777 Routes
*FAQ
Q: Are all 777s refurbished?
A: Yes, all active 777s have the new configuration (Executive Pod) J suites, Premium Economy, and 10-across Economy seats.
Q: Are the dividers in the middle J seats moveable? Can they be slid up/down?
A: No, all Dream Cabin J seat dividers do not come down and are fixed in place.
Summer 2016 777 International Routes
End of summer schedule changes will be added in the future
77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
Calgary – London Heathrow: AC850/851
Toronto – Hong Kong: AC15/16
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC858/859
Toronto – Vancouver – Sydney: AC33/34
77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
Toronto – Beijing: AC31/32
Toronto – Frankfurt: AC872/873
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC856/869
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC848/849
Toronto – Paris CDG: AC880/881
Toronto – Rome Fiumicino: AC890/891 until Sep 12 (out), Sep 13 (in)
Toronto – Shanghai Pudong: AC87/88
Toronto – Tokyo Haneda: AC5/6
Vancouver – Shanghai Pudong: AC25/26
Vancouver – Tokyo Narita: AC3/4
77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
Montreal – London Heathrow: AC864/865
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC870/871
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC884/885
Vancouver – Beijing: AC29/30
Vancouver – Hong Kong: AC7/8
Vancouver – London Heathrow: AC854/855
*FAQ
Q: Are all 777s refurbished?
A: Yes, all active 777s have the new configuration (Executive Pod) J suites, Premium Economy, and 10-across Economy seats.
Q: Are the dividers in the middle J seats moveable? Can they be slid up/down?
A: No, all Dream Cabin J seat dividers do not come down and are fixed in place.
Summer 2016 777 International Routes
End of summer schedule changes will be added in the future
77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
Calgary – London Heathrow: AC850/851
Toronto – Hong Kong: AC15/16
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC858/859
Toronto – Vancouver – Sydney: AC33/34
77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
Toronto – Beijing: AC31/32
Toronto – Frankfurt: AC872/873
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC856/869
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC848/849
Toronto – Paris CDG: AC880/881
Toronto – Rome Fiumicino: AC890/891 until Sep 12 (out), Sep 13 (in)
Toronto – Shanghai Pudong: AC87/88
Toronto – Tokyo Haneda: AC5/6
Vancouver – Shanghai Pudong: AC25/26
Vancouver – Tokyo Narita: AC3/4
77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
Montreal – London Heathrow: AC864/865
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC870/871
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC884/885
Vancouver – Beijing: AC29/30
Vancouver – Hong Kong: AC7/8
Vancouver – London Heathrow: AC854/855
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Aircraft Tracking (last updated Jun 16, 2016) Plane Status Location Details 77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax) C-FIUA-701 Done Loc:HKG In:Apr 09/16 Out:May 09/16 (30 days) C-FIUF-702 Done Loc:HKG In:Nov 08/15 Out:Dec 27/15 (49 days) C-FIUJ-703 Done Loc:HKG In:Dec 27/15 Out:Feb 04/16 (39 days) C-FIVK-704 Done Loc:HKG In:May 09/16 Out:Jun 08/16 (30 days) C-FNND-705 Done Loc:HKG In:Mar 09/16 Out:Apr 09/16 (31 days) C-FNNH-706 Done Loc:HKG In:Feb 04/16 Out:Mar 09/16 (34 days) 77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax) C-FITL-731 Done Loc:GSO In:Sep 01/15 Out:Nov 20/15 (80 Days) C-FITU-732 Done Loc:GSO In:May 03/16 Out:Jun 05/16 (33 days) C-FITW-733 Done Loc:GSO In:Nov 23/15 Out:Jan 06/16 (45 days) C-FIUL-734 Done Loc:GSO In:Mar 16/16 Out:Apr 17/16 (32 days) C-FIUR-735 Done Loc:GSO In:Dec 09/15 Out:Jan 18/16 (40 days) C-FIUV-736 Done Loc:GSO In:Feb 26/16 Out:Apr 02/16 (36 days) C-FIUW-737 Done Loc:GSO In:Jan 06/16 Out:Feb 12/16 (37 days) C-FIVM-738 Done Loc:GSO In:Feb 13/16 Out:Mar 16/16 (32 days) C-FRAM-739 Done Loc:GSO In:Apr 02/16 Out:May 02/16 (30 days) C-FIVQ-740 Done Loc:GSO In:Jan 20/16 Out:Feb 26/16 (37 days) C-FIVR-741 Done Loc:GSO In:Apr 17/16 Out:May 17/16 (30 days) C-FIVS-742 Done Loc:GSO In:Oct 23/15 Out:Dec 08/15 (46 days) 77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax) C-FIVW-743 Done Loc:YMX In:Mar 28/16 Out:Apr 23/16 (26 days) C-FIVX-744 Done Loc:YMX In:May 21/16 Out:Jun 03/16 (13 days) C-FNNQ-745 Done Loc:YMX In:Jun 03/16 Out:Jun 16/16 (13 days) C-FNNU-746 Done Loc:YMX In:May 06/16 Out:May 21/16 (15 days) C-FNNW-747 Done Loc:YMX In:Apr 23/16 Out:May 06/16 (13 days) C-FJZS-748 In Service Loc:YMX FF:Mar 24/16 Del:Apr 26/16 EIS:May 18/16 C-FKAU-749 In Service Loc:YMX FF:May 01/16 Del:May 21/16 EIS:Jun 10/16
Air Canada plans to refurbish 18 of its 777
May 15, 2014, 6:01 am
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Air Canada plans to refurbish 18 of its 777
"Air Canada plans to refurbish 18 of it's 777 planes beginning in 2015. It will add a premium economy class and upgrade business class so it conforms to the same standards as the new 787 planes"
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle18675781/
So wonder if this means all 777's are moving to HD hell...
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle18675781/
So wonder if this means all 777's are moving to HD hell...
May 15, 2014, 6:11 am
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As worded in this press release
we are planning on converting 12 Boeing 777-300ER and six Boeing 777-200LR aircraft into a more competitive configuration,
Bolding mine.
That means the entire long haul fleet will be in the less comfortable configuration.
we are planning on converting 12 Boeing 777-300ER and six Boeing 777-200LR aircraft into a more competitive configuration,
Bolding mine.
That means the entire long haul fleet will be in the less comfortable configuration.
May 15, 2014, 6:13 am
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I am sure it will mean 10 across reduced seat pitch "HD hell" in the back, and also a shrunken J cabin. How many fewer J seats is the only question?
Also interesting that AC management has have changed their minds and decided to keep the rest of the E190s. I still am unclear as to what the short term replacement plans are for the 20 Boeing will buy from AC (next year apparently)?
Also interesting that AC management has have changed their minds and decided to keep the rest of the E190s. I still am unclear as to what the short term replacement plans are for the 20 Boeing will buy from AC (next year apparently)?
May 15, 2014, 6:20 am
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Í´m fairly confident the 777s will get the new J pod and not the mediocre 77P J seat.
But apart from that there are three interesting questions:
1) How many J/PE/Y seats?
2) I think it´s safe to assume seat pitch will be reduced in Y, but will AC also cramp in one more seat per row?
3) If the answer to #2 is yes, will they at least have a few rows of "preferred seats" with extra seat pitch, and possibly the current 3-3-3 config?
But apart from that there are three interesting questions:
1) How many J/PE/Y seats?
2) I think it´s safe to assume seat pitch will be reduced in Y, but will AC also cramp in one more seat per row?
3) If the answer to #2 is yes, will they at least have a few rows of "preferred seats" with extra seat pitch, and possibly the current 3-3-3 config?
May 15, 2014, 6:21 am
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As worded in this press release
we are planning on converting 12 Boeing 777-300ER and six Boeing 777-200LR aircraft into a more competitive configuration,
Bolding mine.
That means the entire long haul fleet will be in the less comfortable configuration.
we are planning on converting 12 Boeing 777-300ER and six Boeing 777-200LR aircraft into a more competitive configuration,
Bolding mine.
That means the entire long haul fleet will be in the less comfortable configuration.
May 15, 2014, 6:34 am
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..."In addition, Air Canada plans to refurbish 18 of its 777 planes beginning in 2015. It will add a premium economy class to those planes and upgrade business class so that it conforms to the same standards as the new 787 planes."
May 15, 2014, 6:36 am
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We need a report from the 787 do as to what the new 787 J seats actually are,
as the Globe reports that these are the same ones that will go into the 777's. If it is the one I test
drove in Seattle, AC will lose a lot of my business .
as the Globe reports that these are the same ones that will go into the 777's. If it is the one I test
drove in Seattle, AC will lose a lot of my business .
Last edited by IluvSQ; May 15, 2014 at 6:57 am
May 15, 2014, 6:39 am
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The press release is pretty clear, seating setup like 787 not 777HD
So decent but less J, a premium economy section and a tighter economy. ( how tight, is the big question) plus updated IFE system
Probably finalized deal on seats and change now that 787 is finally arriving.
So decent but less J, a premium economy section and a tighter economy. ( how tight, is the big question) plus updated IFE system
Probably finalized deal on seats and change now that 787 is finally arriving.
May 15, 2014, 6:52 am
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Listening to the Q1 conference call this morning and the following was confirmed (some of which has already been stated):
Addition of premium economy
New 787 standard International J
Total of 51 additional seats on the B77W and 30 additional seats on the B77L. The breakdown of where the additional seats will be was not confirmed.
This will bring the 77W to 400 seats and the 77L to 300 seats. So a denser config, still not quite HD levels, but not sure how they could add that many seats without going 10 across in Y.
Addition of premium economy
New 787 standard International J
Total of 51 additional seats on the B77W and 30 additional seats on the B77L. The breakdown of where the additional seats will be was not confirmed.
This will bring the 77W to 400 seats and the 77L to 300 seats. So a denser config, still not quite HD levels, but not sure how they could add that many seats without going 10 across in Y.
Last edited by ChrisA330; May 15, 2014 at 7:00 am
May 15, 2014, 7:02 am
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Listening to the Q1 conference call this morning and the following was confirmed (some of which has already been stated):
Addition of premium economy
New 787 standard International J
Total of 51 additional seats on the B77W and 30 additional seats on the B77L. The breakdown of where the additional seats will be was not confirmed.
This will bring the 77W to 400 seats and the 77L to 300 seats. So a denser config, but still not quite HD standard.
Addition of premium economy
New 787 standard International J
Total of 51 additional seats on the B77W and 30 additional seats on the B77L. The breakdown of where the additional seats will be was not confirmed.
This will bring the 77W to 400 seats and the 77L to 300 seats. So a denser config, but still not quite HD standard.
Let's hope when they make these modifications, that the PY cabin will be a separate cabin and/or at least have a curtain and also make provisions for proper FA staffing levels as on CX.
May 15, 2014, 7:05 am
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Moving galley and lavatory structures is a major ordeal and cost. I'm purely speculating that PY will occupy the "B" Cabin currently configured for J.
16J > 24/32 PY ??
16J > 24/32 PY ??