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Old Aug 21, 2015, 9:39 pm
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2016 777 Routes

*FAQ
Q: Are all 777s refurbished?
A: Yes, all active 777s have the new configuration (Executive Pod) J suites, Premium Economy, and 10-across Economy seats.

Q: Are the dividers in the middle J seats moveable? Can they be slid up/down?
A: No, all Dream Cabin J seat dividers do not come down and are fixed in place.

Summer 2016 777 International Routes
End of summer schedule changes will be added in the future

77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
Calgary – London Heathrow: AC850/851
Toronto – Hong Kong: AC15/16
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC858/859
Toronto – Vancouver – Sydney: AC33/34

77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
Toronto – Beijing: AC31/32
Toronto – Frankfurt: AC872/873
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC856/869
Toronto – London Heathrow: AC848/849
Toronto – Paris CDG: AC880/881
Toronto – Rome Fiumicino: AC890/891 until Sep 12 (out), Sep 13 (in)
Toronto – Shanghai Pudong: AC87/88
Toronto – Tokyo Haneda: AC5/6
Vancouver – Shanghai Pudong: AC25/26
Vancouver – Tokyo Narita: AC3/4

77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
Montreal – London Heathrow: AC864/865
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC870/871
Montreal – Paris CDG: AC884/885
Vancouver – Beijing: AC29/30
Vancouver – Hong Kong: AC7/8
Vancouver – London Heathrow: AC854/855

Code:
 
 Aircraft Tracking (last updated Jun 16, 2016)
 Plane       Status       Location Details
 
 77L (40J-24O-236Y : 300 pax)
 C-FIUA-701  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Apr 09/16  Out:May 09/16  (30 days)
 C-FIUF-702  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Nov 08/15  Out:Dec 27/15  (49 days)
 C-FIUJ-703  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Dec 27/15  Out:Feb 04/16  (39 days)
 C-FIVK-704  Done         Loc:HKG  In:May 09/16  Out:Jun 08/16  (30 days)
 C-FNND-705  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Mar 09/16  Out:Apr 09/16  (31 days)
 C-FNNH-706  Done         Loc:HKG  In:Feb 04/16  Out:Mar 09/16  (34 days)
 
 77W (40J-24O-336Y : 400 pax)
 C-FITL-731  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Sep 01/15  Out:Nov 20/15  (80 Days)
 C-FITU-732  Done         Loc:GSO  In:May 03/16  Out:Jun 05/16  (33 days)
 C-FITW-733  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Nov 23/15  Out:Jan 06/16  (45 days)
 C-FIUL-734  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Mar 16/16  Out:Apr 17/16  (32 days)  
 C-FIUR-735  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Dec 09/15  Out:Jan 18/16  (40 days)
 C-FIUV-736  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Feb 26/16  Out:Apr 02/16  (36 days)
 C-FIUW-737  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Jan 06/16  Out:Feb 12/16  (37 days)
 C-FIVM-738  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Feb 13/16  Out:Mar 16/16  (32 days)
 C-FRAM-739  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Apr 02/16  Out:May 02/16  (30 days)
 C-FIVQ-740  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Jan 20/16  Out:Feb 26/16  (37 days)
 C-FIVR-741  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Apr 17/16  Out:May 17/16  (30 days)
 C-FIVS-742  Done         Loc:GSO  In:Oct 23/15  Out:Dec 08/15  (46 days)
 
 77W (28J-24O-398Y : 450 pax)
 C-FIVW-743  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Mar 28/16  Out:Apr 23/16  (26 days)
 C-FIVX-744  Done         Loc:YMX  In:May 21/16  Out:Jun 03/16  (13 days)
 C-FNNQ-745  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Jun 03/16  Out:Jun 16/16  (13 days)
 C-FNNU-746  Done         Loc:YMX  In:May 06/16  Out:May 21/16  (15 days)
 C-FNNW-747  Done         Loc:YMX  In:Apr 23/16  Out:May 06/16  (13 days)
 C-FJZS-748  In Service   Loc:YMX  FF:Mar 24/16  Del:Apr 26/16  EIS:May 18/16
 C-FKAU-749  In Service   Loc:YMX  FF:May 01/16  Del:May 21/16  EIS:Jun 10/16


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Old Feb 21, 2017, 12:16 am
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I was just on Fin 748 - there is a divider between PE and Y, but no curtain. I thought there were only 5 HD planes in the fleet?
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Originally Posted by Jebby_ca
I was just on Fin 748 - there is a divider between PE and Y, but no curtain. I thought there were only 5 HD planes in the fleet?
7. They added two more last year IIRC.
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 6:40 am
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Originally Posted by Jebby_ca
I was just on Fin 748 - there is a divider between PE and Y, but no curtain. I thought there were only 5 HD planes in the fleet?
Originally Posted by rehoult
7. They added two more last year IIRC.

We've had this discussion a few times.

1. The wiki above provides the Fin #s of all the 77s including the 7 HDs. In the wiki, you can see that 748 and 749 are the new builds. Thus as rehoult noted, there are now 7 of them.

2. Back on September 22, I posted the following upthread:

Originally Posted by 24left
Recently flew one of the new birds, FIN 748 C-FJZS
Yes, 777-333ER or more fondly known as the HD.
Delivered April 26.

New plane smell.

The new lavs are similar to the 788/9s with no-touch faucets and the different color finish on the sink counters and floors.

The galley has new food carts and they seem to be made of slightly different materials and don't make as much noise. Nice finish too.

For some reason, the main cabin looks a little nicer than the refurb, but I can't explain why.

Stuff is still relatively clean-ish and in good shape. There is quite a bit of dirt along the window ledges and the lavs have dirt on the floor and this was before the flight departed.

Still, nice to be on new metal.
Recently while on fins 743 and 744, looking at the PE and Y cabins, I commented to crew that the divider is what sets apart the new builds for the old fins (along with the nicer lavs and seats of course).
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 8:34 am
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Originally Posted by Mauricio23
I was responding to your comment on where YOU'd rather spend the $360,000, not AC. For that matter, do you think the accountants care about deep cleaning the planes?
Easy solution, make the accountants fly on the product. Every accountant I know while being careful with numbers hates dirty / messy things even more!
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 6:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Sean Peever
Easy solution, make the accountants fly on the product. Every accountant I know while being careful with numbers hates dirty / messy things even more!
I knew I liked you for a reason.
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 8:04 am
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Originally Posted by quantumofforce
I knew I liked you for a reason.
lol! well thanks! I like you too!
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 8:53 am
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Originally Posted by Sean Peever
Easy solution, make the accountants fly on the product. Every accountant I know while being careful with numbers hates dirty / messy things even more!
What if those accountants get bonuses for saving the cleaning costs?
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 8:54 am
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Originally Posted by songsc
What if those accountants get bonuses for saving the cleaning costs?
Well, like I said, all the accountants I know hate dirty / messy things more than saving a bit of money.
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by Sean Peever
Well, like I said, all the accountants I know hate dirty / messy things more than saving a bit of money.
And clearly AC didn't hire those accountants
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 8:58 am
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Originally Posted by songsc
And clearly AC didn't hire those accountants
lol! If I was a betting man, I would put my money on accountants at AC haven not flow the AC plans recently.
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Old Feb 28, 2017, 2:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Sean Peever
lol! If I was a betting man, I would put my money on accountants at AC haven not flow the AC plans recently.
....because they hate dirty messy things, but like the money being saved by having dirty messy things.....
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Old Feb 28, 2017, 3:36 pm
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And clearly AC didn't hire those accountants
Perhaps it's not accountants per se, only accountants who moved out of it and into upper management?

And who take themselves seriously enough to believe in accounting fiction/creative writing. Instead of looking at the big picture?

(So they end up buying 737s. 319s with non-containerized luggage....)
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Old Feb 28, 2017, 11:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Sean Peever
Well, like I said, all the accountants I know hate dirty / messy things more than saving a bit of money.
So, you only know germophobic accountants? Because I know a lot of accountants and the cheapskates far outnumber the germophobes.

Although the cheapskate reputation is largely (but not entirely) undeserved. AC's job is to make money. The accountants are just trying to do their job.

If no one exercises strategic thinking to see the longer-term benefits of cleaning planes despite slightly higher short-term costs, that's not the problem of the accountants, it's the people overseeing them.
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Originally Posted by Adam Smith
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If no one exercises strategic thinking to see the longer-term benefits of cleaning planes despite slightly higher short-term costs, that's not the problem of the accountants, it's the people overseeing them.
HEY!!!! This is the AC FT forum, there is no place for rational and factual comments here - no matter how much those same comments may reflect actual business reality and how accurate they may be!
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Old Mar 1, 2017, 10:34 am
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Originally Posted by jaysona
HEY!!!! This is the AC FT forum, there is no place for rational and factual comments here - no matter how much those same comments may reflect actual business reality and how accurate they may be!
Sorry. Damned bean-counters! Anyone with a CPA working at AC HQ should be forced to only use bathrooms on planes that have just returned from TATLs and TPACs and they should be forced to eat all their food directly off airplane tray tables!!!!!

Only then will those penny-pinchers understand the DISGUSTING conditions they're forcing us to live in!!!

That better?
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