Sep 19, 2017, 10:25 am
Last edit by: 24left
Jan 18 2021 TC issues Airworthiness Directive for the 737 MAX
Link to post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32976892-post4096.html
Cabin photos
Post 976 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29534462-post976.html
Post 1300 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29780203-post1300.html
Cabin Layout
Interior Specs can be found here https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/fly/onboard/fleet.html
- Window seats may feel narrower to come as the armrests are placed "into" the "curvature" of the cabin.
- Seats with no windows feel even more narrower as there is no space created by the curvature of window.
- All bulkhead seats have very limited legroom.
- Seats 15A, 16A, 16F, 17A and 17F have limited windows.
- Exit rows 19 and 20 have more legroom than regular preferred seats.
Routes
The 737 MAX is designated to replace the A320-series. Based on announcements and schedule updates, the following specific routes will be operated by the 737 MAX in future:
YYZ-LAX (periodic flights)
YYZ-SNN (new route)
YUL-DUB (new route)
YYZ/YUL-KEF (replacing Rouge A319)
YYT-LHR (replacing Mainline A319)
YHZ-LHR (replacing Mainline B767)
Hawaii Routes YVR/YYC (replacing Rouge B767)
Many domestic trunk routes (YYZ, YVR, YUL, YYC) now operated by 7M8, replacing A320 family
Link to post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32976892-post4096.html
Cabin photos
Post 976 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29534462-post976.html
Post 1300 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29780203-post1300.html
Cabin Layout
Interior Specs can be found here https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/fly/onboard/fleet.html
- Window seats may feel narrower to come as the armrests are placed "into" the "curvature" of the cabin.
- Seats with no windows feel even more narrower as there is no space created by the curvature of window.
- All bulkhead seats have very limited legroom.
- Seats 15A, 16A, 16F, 17A and 17F have limited windows.
- Exit rows 19 and 20 have more legroom than regular preferred seats.
Routes
The 737 MAX is designated to replace the A320-series. Based on announcements and schedule updates, the following specific routes will be operated by the 737 MAX in future:
YYZ-LAX (periodic flights)
YYZ-SNN (new route)
YUL-DUB (new route)
YYZ/YUL-KEF (replacing Rouge A319)
YYT-LHR (replacing Mainline A319)
YHZ-LHR (replacing Mainline B767)
Hawaii Routes YVR/YYC (replacing Rouge B767)
Many domestic trunk routes (YYZ, YVR, YUL, YYC) now operated by 7M8, replacing A320 family
Air Canada Selects Boeing 737 MAX to Renew Mainline Narrowbody Fleet
Dec 14, 2013, 12:56 pm
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That's something of a contradiction isn't it? Affluent buyers don't buy J? I know quite a few people in Calgary who buy J for their leisure travel.
Dec 14, 2013, 2:16 pm
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It may not have been worded well, but I agree with it. A LOT of people are "affluent" enough to take a trip somewhere, but I've had pretty awesome vacations where the total cost (flight hotel entertainment) was less than a one way Z fare.
Dec 14, 2013, 4:15 pm
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Dec 14, 2013, 4:22 pm
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If you can't take reality seriously why should any airline.
My only concern is all these illegitimate complaints make the legitimate ones also appear petty and thus go unfixed.
Dec 14, 2013, 4:42 pm
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Also, if you look at the lifespan of the Embraers at AC, or other aircraft types at some airlines, the need to think "long term" is overrated. The better price and upfront benefits you secure, the easier it will be to remarket the aircraft when an even better one comes along or the consumer market changes and you want to adapt the fleet to those changed competitive conditions.
Dec 14, 2013, 5:17 pm
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Dec 17, 2013, 6:31 am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kevy_boy
Everyone is assuming that because the A320NEO has a wider cabin that AC would use wider seats.
Perhaps they would have still used 17" seats and had a wider aisle.
Impossible to use 17" seats on the 320 because it would require reconfiguration of the interior tracks the seats sit on plus reconfiguration of the standard seat provided by the manufacturers (the seat manufacturers build the basic structural components to the airplane manufacturers standards). Finally the new configuration to 17" wide tracks plus new seats would have to get a supplemental type certificate prior to implementation.
It is the work effort and costs of the above paragraph that dictate all airlines have one set standard width seat for each airplane. For example UA and DL both fly the 320 and 738; but each airline must pick the seats that are configured for the aircraft.
Originally Posted by kevy_boy
Everyone is assuming that because the A320NEO has a wider cabin that AC would use wider seats.
Perhaps they would have still used 17" seats and had a wider aisle.
Impossible to use 17" seats on the 320 because it would require reconfiguration of the interior tracks the seats sit on plus reconfiguration of the standard seat provided by the manufacturers (the seat manufacturers build the basic structural components to the airplane manufacturers standards). Finally the new configuration to 17" wide tracks plus new seats would have to get a supplemental type certificate prior to implementation.
It is the work effort and costs of the above paragraph that dictate all airlines have one set standard width seat for each airplane. For example UA and DL both fly the 320 and 738; but each airline must pick the seats that are configured for the aircraft.
If this is true then how are Delta able to use the same seat (17.2" wide) in their 737s and A319/A320s?
Dec 17, 2013, 5:53 pm
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Then again presumably there is a reason why they are doing away with it - too good a product that could not achieve the needed premium.
Jan 4, 2014, 7:01 pm
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Why/When is AC dumping the EMBers?
I am astonished that AC is looking at replacing its EMBs. These are good planes and still relatively new (what 5 yrs?). Surely their life expectancy is much longer. Why is AC flirting with new equipment when these are perfectly good?
As a Canadian I would love to see AC buy the C series but I just cannot rationalize this. What am I missing here?
As a Canadian I would love to see AC buy the C series but I just cannot rationalize this. What am I missing here?
Jan 4, 2014, 11:16 pm
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I had more share of problems on my E190 flights... maintenance delays... sink not working... electrical component in cockpit not working and had to be replaced before takeoff...kitchen tap once didnt stop running during flight and poor flight attendant had to keep filling jugs with the water that and dump it into the bathroom until the kitchen water ran out....
I'd be happy to see the E190 go...
I'd be happy to see the E190 go...
Jan 4, 2014, 11:23 pm
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I am astonished that AC is looking at replacing its EMBs. These are good planes and still relatively new (what 5 yrs?). Surely their life expectancy is much longer. Why is AC flirting with new equipment when these are perfectly good?
As a Canadian I would love to see AC buy the C series but I just cannot rationalize this. What am I missing here?
As a Canadian I would love to see AC buy the C series but I just cannot rationalize this. What am I missing here?
Has anyone heard what short term replacement for the 20 EMBs that are leaving will be? Those 737s could be coming a lot sooner than anticipated...
Jan 5, 2014, 12:00 am
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The EMB is not particularly fuel efficient and it is a small plane. Additionally, it does not fit the current business model all that well. The CSeries is larger and it has a significantly better performance. So, replacing while the EMBs still have resale value might be cost-effective, depending upon the sort of deal they can get on the CSeries.