Mar 2, 2016, 12:16 pm
Last edit by: sokolov
No YQ airlines/routes/countries
NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET
UA:
All flights except from U.S to: ICN
AC:
Within North America
TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)
For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)
All TATL flights
List of YQ-free cities/countries:
Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)
For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH
No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH
Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK
Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)
NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination
Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH
No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ
Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)
20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)
Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)
Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.
YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.
TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160€ taxes one way [of these YR=98€] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47€
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) €580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09€
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200€
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - €49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44€
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - €25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31€
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31€
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) €231.74 + €20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08 €
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45€
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39€
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53€
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89€
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72€
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92€ (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54€ online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30£ online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197€ online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - €43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (€46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67€ online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - €12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (€36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (€151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (€53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60€ online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60€ online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00€ (YQ) + 60.99€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
NZ, CM, AV, O6, NH, SQ, ET
UA:
All flights except from U.S to: ICN
AC:
Within North America
TPAC flights originated from Canada to:
Japan(NRT,HND,KIX), Australia(SYD,BNE)
For TPAC arriving to Canada:
YQ-free countries/cities (see below)
ex-Australia flights (SYD, BNE)
All TATL flights
List of YQ-free cities/countries:
Hong Kong (depart only)
Brazil (depart only)
Philippines (depart only)
Thailand (depart only)
South Korea (depart only)
For Japan:
Departing flights base on J class direct fights from NRT
Example: NRT-ZRH on LX, NRT-FRA on LH
No YQ: UA, AC, AI, NZ, ET, LO, ZH
Less then 20 Euros YQ: LH, SK, CA, OZ, BR, SQ, LX, TK
Greater than 20 Euros YQ: TG (94 Euros)
NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for most of it's destination
Arriving flights base on J class direct fights to NRT
Example: ZRH- NRT on LX, FRA-NRT on LH
No YQ: UA, AC, TG, NZ, OZ
Less than 20 Euros YQ: BR (14 Euros)
20 - 100 Euros YQ: SQ (20 Euros SIN-NRT, 26 Euros LAX-NRT), ET(95 Euros), CA (41 Euros), ZH (40 Euros)
Greater than 100 Euros: LH (246 Euros), AI (185 Euros), LO (177 Euros), SK (135 Euros), LX(262 Euros), TK (130 Euros)
Again, NH has less than 20 Euros YQ for flights arriving to NRT.
YQ + Fee for award flights, feel free to add more on the list (at the end of it) if you have made a recent redemption.
TK SFO-IST-TLV 237,90 Euro
LH SFO-FRA-TLV 376,76 Euro
UA&LH SFO-FRA(UA)-TLV(LH) 104,77 Euro
SIN-FRA (SQ) Y - 181,75 Euro
SIN-DEL(AI)-FRA(LH) J - 257,15 Euro
HKG-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,72 Euro
TPE-IST-FRA (TK) Y - 149,75 Euro
TPE-PEK-FRA (CA) J - 149,43 Euro
YYZ-SFO(AC)-TPE (UA) Y - 159,28 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) Y - 191,24 Euro
YYZ-PVG(AC)-TPE (BR) J - 227,41 Euro
FRA-YUL (AC) Y - 104,00 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL (AC) Y - 182,00 Euro
FRA-YYZ-YUL (AC) Y - 142,99 Euro
FRA-LHR(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 187,00 Euro
BKK-HND (TG) Y - 111 Euros
CDG-PEK (CA) Y- 207,88 EUROS
CDG-PEK (CA) J - 298,44 EUROS
CDG-FRA-PEK (LH) Y - 209,13 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) Y - 264,52 EUROS
CDG-ICN-PEK (OZ) J - 305,04 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) Y - 164,31 EUROS
CDG-TPE (BR) J - 204,90 EUROS
CDG-PVG-TPE (CA) Y - 189,99 EUROS
CDG-ICN(OZ)-TPE(TG) - 301,70 EUROS
FRA-MUC-YUL J (LH) - 355,90 Euros
FRA-CDG(LH)-YUL(AC) J - 170.00 Euros
AC Y: 188,37 Euro YYZ-PEK
AC J: 238,77 Euro YYZ-PEK
UA Y: 79,74 Euro YYZ-ORD-PEK
ATH-CAI-AUH (MS) Y - 148,07 EUROS
AKL-SIN (NZ) Y - 41,03 Euros
ORD-NRT (NH) Y,J,C - 44,17 Euros
ORD-NRT (UA) Y,J,C - 41,42 Euros
JFK - SIN- MEL (SQ) Y -789,00 Euros
ZRH - HKG (Y) LX - 260,06 EUR
ZRH-FRA-HKG (Y) LH - 281,33 EUR
NRT-ORD (Y) NH - 73,43 EUR
MNL-BKK-SIN (J) (TG) - 31,40 Euros
BKK-MNL (TG) (Y)- 84,76 Euros
MNL-SIN (SQ) (J) - 30,46 Euros
---2016----
HKG-FRA-BUD (LH) C - 114.24 Euros (all cost; one-way; as of 2016-Mar)
BKK-NRT (TG) J - 131.79 Euros
MIA-VIE-FRA (OS) C - 458.76 Euro*
* date change with same airline and route = 20 eur/pp
change route = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
same date but change to other airline = 40 eur/pp (cancel and rebook)
ARN-FRA-LAX (LH) C/F - 296.26 Euro (OW 276.26 YQ + 20 fee per person; booked in 2015)
YYC-DEN (UA) Y 101 euros with 20 booking fee
LIS-IST-GYD (TK) (J) 22k + 160€ taxes one way [of these YR=98€] [taxes were the same for LH+TP]
MNL-ADD-MXP (ET) (Y) - 11,47€
MUC-CDG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 210,05 Euro
MUC-LHR(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 249,80 Euro
MUC-HKG(LH)-TPE(BR) (J) - 334,08 Euro
MUC-IST(TK)-TPE(BR) (J) - 162,26 Euro
KIX-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 95,23 Euro
NRT-SIN-DPS J (NH,SQ) - 93,45 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB Y (AC, SA) - 208,85 Euro
YYZ-FRA-JNB J (LH, SA) - 583,31 Euro
YUL-LAX-AKL J (AC, NZ) - 105,27 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS Y (SQ) - 175,89 Euro
ICN-SIN-DPS J (SQ) - 200,08 Euro
YYZ-NRT Y (AC) - 57,21 Euros
PEK-YVR Y (AC) - 164,84 Euros
PEK-NRT-YVR Y, J (NH) - 181,26 Euros
DEL-YYZ - Y (AC) - 386,76 Euros
BNE-YVR - Y (AC) - 75,61 Euros
LCA-VIE-BKK-VIE-LCA J (OS) €580
YYZ-PVG - Y (AC) 182,83 Euros
YYZ-ORD-PVG - Y (UA) - 76,54 Euros
YVR-SFO-ICN - Y (UA) - 139,96 Euros
YVR-ICN - Y (AC) - 120,09 Euros
PVG-YYZ - Y (AC) 175,49 Euros
PVG-ORD-YYZ - Y (UA) - 51,45 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 116,62 Euros
CDG-HND - J (NH) - 115,43 Euros
CMN-FRA-CDG - J (LH) - 189,00 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - Y (LH) - 161,16 Euros
ATH-FRA-RAK - J (LH) - 167,16 Euros
CDG-TPE-HKG - Y (BR) - 133,09 Euros
TPE-ICN - Y (OZ) - 46,00 Euros
YUL-ZRH-GVA - Y (LX) - 269,34 Euros
CDG-FRA-HND - J (LH,NH) - 160,65 Euros
CDG-MUC-HND - J (LH,NH) - 157,90 Euros
YUL-MUC-BKK - Y (LH,TG) - 344,40 Euros
YUL-IST-BKK - Y, J (TK) - 280,30 Euros
ADD-LAX - Y (ET) - 248,87 Euros
ADD-LHR-LAX - Y (ET, UA) - 169,36 Euros
ADD-IST-LAX - J (TK) - 291,38 Euros
TPE-IST-CDG - J (TK) - 218,91 Euros
TPE-SIN-CDG - Y (SQ) - 273,08 Euros
ICN-TPE-VIE - J (OZ,BR) - 52,94 Euros(total cost,flights in April 2017)
FRA-CPH - Y (LH) - 97,09€
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 288,62 Euros
YYZ-LGA//JFK-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 332,00 Euros
YYZ-ADD-JNB (Y) (ET) - 302,79 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (Y) (AC,SA) - 200,36 Euros
YYZ-LHR-JNB (J) (AC,SA) - 273,58 Euros
NRT-PEK-ADD (Y,J) (NH,ET) - 156,96 Euros
NRT-PVG-ADD (Y) (NH, ET) - 156,96 Euros
YYZ-LIM (Y) (AC) - 141,99 Euros
YYZ-SAL-LIM , Y (AV) - 72,03 Euros
YYZ-TPE-HKG (Y,J) (BR) - 78,89 Euros
YYZ-ORD-HKG (Y) (UA) - 99,61 Euros
YYZ-EWR-HKG (Y) (UA)- 99,61 Euros
ORD-CDG (Y) (UA) - 25,27 Euros
ORD-FRA-CDG (LH) - 373,00 Euros
GVA-FRA-LAX and return JFK-GVA (LH, LX) - 487,96 Euros
----------------2017------------------
GRU-FRA-TLL (F,J) (LH) - 103,60 Euros
YYZ-SFO (J) (AC) - 64,55 Euros
YVR-HKG (Y) (AC) - 83,46 Euros
HKG-ICN-OKA (Y) (OZ) - 54,47 Euros
CPH-PVG-AKL (J) (SK/NZ) - ~200€
TXL-FRA-BKK-FRA-TXL (J) (LH/TG/TG/LH) - 252 Euros
SIN-HND (J) (SQ) - 42,88 Euros
ZRH-BKK-MEL (J) (TG) - €49.22
GVA-ZRH-YUL (J,Y) (LX) - 256,44€
HKG-ICN (Y) (OZ) - €25.54
SIN-CPH (Y) (SQ) - 103,31€
SIN-LHR-CPH (Y) (SQ,SK) - 103,31€
FRA-CAI-SSH (C) (MS) - 177 EUR
FRA-IST-SSH (C) (TK) - 197 EUR
YYZ-DUB (J) (AC) - EUR68.11 (EUR48.11+EUR20 fee)
HKG-IST-GOT (J) (TK) - EUR110.71 (EUR90.71 + EUR20 fee; ticketed in Aug 2017; one-way)
SFO-TUS (Y) (UA) - EUR32,11 (EUR12,11 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TUS-SFO (Y) (UA) - EUR31,85 (EUR11,85 + EUR20 fee. Ticketed in Sep 2017; one way)
TXL-IST-SIN/ BKK-ZUR-TXL (J) (TK/SQ/TG/LX) €231.74 + €20 fee
EWR-PDX (Y) (UA) - EURO 31.87
SIN-BKK-CDG (J) TG - 77,08 €
SIN-CDG (Y) SQ - 41,45€
SIN-FRA-CDG (Y) LH - 252,39€
SIN-IST (J) SQ - 41,53€
SIN-IST (J) TK - 176,89€
YUL-ZRH (J) - 360,72€
----------------2018------------------
BKK-ARN-TLL (J) TG,SK - 92€ (flights in 2019) online booking
BLZ-ADD-GRU (J) ET - 29.54€ online
GRU-ZHR-LCY (J) LX- 30£ online
YUL-LYS-VIE / VIE-GVA-YUL (J); 197€ online (AC/OS)
HKG-IST-HEL (Y one-way on TK; flights in 2019) - 40,000miles plus EUR81.33, online booking (post #1635)
SIN-SFO (J) SQ - €43.6 online booking
----------------2019------------------
CPH-LIS-GIG (J) TP (€46.5) online
BKK-PVG (J) TG - 64.67€ online
LAX-ARN-HEL (J) SK - €12.50 online
CPH-LIS (Y) TP - (€36,70) online
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - (€151) online (flight in Apr2020)
HKG-TPE (J) BR (€53.28) online (redemption in Aug 2019)
EZE-GRU (J) ET 61.60€ online
EZE-GRU (J) TK 61.60€ online
VIE-BKK-TPE-SFO (J) BR - 240.00€ (YQ) + 60.99€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in summer 2020)
LAX-HND-LHR (F) NH - 135.82€ (YQ) + 15.97€ (Taxes etc.) online (flight in fall 2020)
LHR-HND-LAX (F) NH Round-Trip + 569.23€ online pre-devaluation
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
AC CDG-YYZ-YYJ Euro 98.85 (Eco, 35k miles, oneway, booked Oct 2021, inlcudes Euro 36.- YQ)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 98.46 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked Feb 2022 - inlcudes Euro 61.31 YR)
SQ+TK REP-SIN-IST-NCE Euro 102.18 (Eco, 60k miles, oneway, booked March 2022 - includes Euro 63.36 YR plus another 0.44 YR)
Please report your Star Alliance award redemption experiences
Jul 8, 2016, 6:44 am
#946
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Eastern Europe
Programs: LH SEN LT , Hilton
Posts: 185
Re: Seat Upgrade - LH
Sorry if this is covered elsewhere.
Mrs booked LH tkt ECO MUC-HKG - H class & wanted to use A3 miles to upgrade to C. Tried via online A/C & shows fare not eligible.
Called CS & just be told only B,Y in ECO & G,E in Pre Eco are eligible for upgrade.
We all know nobody books B or Y , crazy prices so its lesson learned for the future.
Just a heads up to share if not already known
Mrs booked LH tkt ECO MUC-HKG - H class & wanted to use A3 miles to upgrade to C. Tried via online A/C & shows fare not eligible.
Called CS & just be told only B,Y in ECO & G,E in Pre Eco are eligible for upgrade.
We all know nobody books B or Y , crazy prices so its lesson learned for the future.
Just a heads up to share if not already known
Jul 8, 2016, 8:47 am
#948
Join Date: May 2012
Location: GVA
Posts: 188
It's unlikely that you would want to do this, but it may be possible to buy up to the appropriate class and then apply for the upgrade. I don't know what the price increase is likely to be like, but I think "H" is reasonably high up in the economy ecosystem?
Jul 8, 2016, 9:58 am
#949
Join Date: May 2012
Location: BOS, YYZ, HKG, TPE
Programs: OZ Diamond, DL Gold, QF Gold, HH Diamond, Bonvoy Titanium, WoH Explorist, Shangri-la Jade
Posts: 304
If someone would help shed some light for me, that'd be great!
I'm trying to book an award from SIN-SEL (GMP/ICN). I've found flights through HND on NH which Aeroplan and United both say have availability, but the agent says she cannot see the space.
Okay, even after she quoted me a SIN-NRT/HND-GMP on NH, the taxes added up to around 140EUR including the booking charge. Supposedly, ITA Matrix says it should be only 70EUR with the booking fee.
What's going on? (Sorry, first time booking an award)
I'm trying to book an award from SIN-SEL (GMP/ICN). I've found flights through HND on NH which Aeroplan and United both say have availability, but the agent says she cannot see the space.
Okay, even after she quoted me a SIN-NRT/HND-GMP on NH, the taxes added up to around 140EUR including the booking charge. Supposedly, ITA Matrix says it should be only 70EUR with the booking fee.
What's going on? (Sorry, first time booking an award)
Jul 8, 2016, 10:54 am
#950
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: YYZ, HKG, MFM
Programs: AC35K, AS MVP, WS Gold, ITA EP, Marriott Plat, Hyatt-Explorist, IHG Diamond
Posts: 2,019
Sorry if this is covered elsewhere.
Mrs booked LH tkt ECO MUC-HKG - H class & wanted to use A3 miles to upgrade to C. Tried via online A/C & shows fare not eligible.
Called CS & just be told only B,Y in ECO & G,E in Pre Eco are eligible for upgrade.
We all know nobody books B or Y , crazy prices so its lesson learned for the future.
Just a heads up to share if not already known
Mrs booked LH tkt ECO MUC-HKG - H class & wanted to use A3 miles to upgrade to C. Tried via online A/C & shows fare not eligible.
Called CS & just be told only B,Y in ECO & G,E in Pre Eco are eligible for upgrade.
We all know nobody books B or Y , crazy prices so its lesson learned for the future.
Just a heads up to share if not already known
Jul 8, 2016, 12:33 pm
#951
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Eastern Europe
Programs: LH SEN LT , Hilton
Posts: 185
So for 150 euro can change the tkt to PE N class which also gives 100% miles on A3. Thankfully its reasonable to get out of the hole with the Mrs !!!
Reading this thread looks like best option is build up the miles further & burn on an award tkt.
Jul 8, 2016, 4:22 pm
#952
Join Date: May 2012
Location: GVA
Posts: 188
B or Y price is beyond belief....... however LH are running a PE promotion which works out same price as H class ECO , work that one out !
So for 150 euro can change the tkt to PE N class which also gives 100% miles on A3. Thankfully its reasonable to get out of the hole with the Mrs !!!
Reading this thread looks like best option is build up the miles further & burn on an award tkt.
So for 150 euro can change the tkt to PE N class which also gives 100% miles on A3. Thankfully its reasonable to get out of the hole with the Mrs !!!
Reading this thread looks like best option is build up the miles further & burn on an award tkt.
Jul 10, 2016, 10:43 pm
#953
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SGN
Programs: A3*G
Posts: 32
Every FFP is different. Some for example have been notorious for gratuitously allowing third-zone connections, resulting in widespread exploitation. Others (like Aegean, I believe) enforce MPM (maximum permitted mileage), which puts a cap on the total mileage you are allowed to cover on an award.
In any case it seems to me that the shortest direction SGN-GIG (for instance) is in fact transatlantic: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=sgn-gig (the same is true for all the city pairs that Air Rarotonga listed)
Not that it should matter, since A3's rules being what they are (only allowing one connection) there is no reason they shouldn't allow you to do any of the routes listed (besides exceeding MPM, which you'd have to call in to check). SK had good reason to disallow you from doing SGN-ICN-ROR, since a South East Asia-North Asia award was presumably more expensive than an intra-South East Asia award, meaning if they did let people book things like SGN-ICN-ROR willy nilly they were opening themselves up to hidden city ticketing risks. The same is not true in your case, since both Far East-Europe awards and Far East-Central/South Africa awards are cheaper than Far East-Central/South America awards.
In any case it seems to me that the shortest direction SGN-GIG (for instance) is in fact transatlantic: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=sgn-gig (the same is true for all the city pairs that Air Rarotonga listed)
Not that it should matter, since A3's rules being what they are (only allowing one connection) there is no reason they shouldn't allow you to do any of the routes listed (besides exceeding MPM, which you'd have to call in to check). SK had good reason to disallow you from doing SGN-ICN-ROR, since a South East Asia-North Asia award was presumably more expensive than an intra-South East Asia award, meaning if they did let people book things like SGN-ICN-ROR willy nilly they were opening themselves up to hidden city ticketing risks. The same is not true in your case, since both Far East-Europe awards and Far East-Central/South Africa awards are cheaper than Far East-Central/South America awards.
Rep 1: No MPM enforced. Connection via Europe zone not allowed. Connection via N.A. zone allowed. Reason: Far East to S.A. requires same number of points as Far East to N.A. [Hmmm....]
Rep 2: No MPM enforced. You are never allowed to connect in a third zone. Whether you connect in Europe or N.A., you will need to redeem two tix.
Rep 3: No MPM enforced. I have no idea whether it is allowed to connect in a third zone, but let us try. [We finally found availability BKK-IST-GRU]. System tells me this ticket is 150K miles in J. [I did not have the patience to find availability TPAC, but logically this should also be allowed.]
So, Rep 3 yielded the best result. But it is frustrating that I got three different answers (each conveyed with equal conviction). The reps are reluctant (or unable) to discuss these matters in abstract.
/ Nielsen
Jul 11, 2016, 2:12 am
#954
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Heraklion, Greece
Posts: 7,567
Jul 11, 2016, 8:28 am
#955
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Munich, Taipei
Programs: AB Gold, TK Elite
Posts: 179
Just called Aegean to try to book an award ticket from MUC-TPE.
On Aeroplan I saw that there is availability from MUC-IST-TPE on 8/27.
But the first agent said that there is nothing available at all on 8/27. I then asked her to check these segments separately, so MUC-IST and IST-TPE. She found availability but told me I would have to book them separately as two tickets.
After like 5 minutes I called the Greek hotline again, but it was the same agent and she told me that availability hasn't changed. So again I hung up,
And called the German hotline. The agent here says that there's nothing available on 8/27 but on 8/25 there's TG via BKK, LH via HKG and TK via IST. On Aeroplan however there's only TK available, but on ANA it shows the same availability like the A3 agent said.
Is this normal? Should I call again to try to push them to book the route as I want or is it pointless?
Any advice is welcome.
On Aeroplan I saw that there is availability from MUC-IST-TPE on 8/27.
But the first agent said that there is nothing available at all on 8/27. I then asked her to check these segments separately, so MUC-IST and IST-TPE. She found availability but told me I would have to book them separately as two tickets.
After like 5 minutes I called the Greek hotline again, but it was the same agent and she told me that availability hasn't changed. So again I hung up,
And called the German hotline. The agent here says that there's nothing available on 8/27 but on 8/25 there's TG via BKK, LH via HKG and TK via IST. On Aeroplan however there's only TK available, but on ANA it shows the same availability like the A3 agent said.
Is this normal? Should I call again to try to push them to book the route as I want or is it pointless?
Any advice is welcome.
Last edited by mcmichi; Jul 11, 2016 at 9:06 am
Jul 11, 2016, 9:45 am
#956
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: MAN,TLV
Programs: Silver:BA,VX,AB, QF. Gold:A3,RJ,AZ,GF, EY,SPG,Marriott,Choice, Carlson. Dia/Plat:HH,IHG,BW,Accor
Posts: 1,965
Just called Aegean to try to book an award ticket from MUC-TPE.
On Aeroplan I saw that there is availability from MUC-IST-TPE on 8/27.
But the first agent said that there is nothing available at all on 8/27. I then asked her to check these segments separately, so MUC-IST and IST-TPE. She found availability but told me I would have to book them separately as two tickets.
After like 5 minutes I called the Greek hotline again, but it was the same agent and she told me that availability hasn't changed. So again I hung up,
And called the German hotline. The agent here says that there's nothing available on 8/27 but on 8/25 there's TG via BKK, LH via HKG and TK via IST. On Aeroplan however there's only TK available, but on ANA it shows the same availability like the A3 agent said.
Is this normal? Should I call again to try to push them to book the route as I want or is it pointless?
Any advice is welcome.
On Aeroplan I saw that there is availability from MUC-IST-TPE on 8/27.
But the first agent said that there is nothing available at all on 8/27. I then asked her to check these segments separately, so MUC-IST and IST-TPE. She found availability but told me I would have to book them separately as two tickets.
After like 5 minutes I called the Greek hotline again, but it was the same agent and she told me that availability hasn't changed. So again I hung up,
And called the German hotline. The agent here says that there's nothing available on 8/27 but on 8/25 there's TG via BKK, LH via HKG and TK via IST. On Aeroplan however there's only TK available, but on ANA it shows the same availability like the A3 agent said.
Is this normal? Should I call again to try to push them to book the route as I want or is it pointless?
Any advice is welcome.
Jul 12, 2016, 4:27 pm
#957
Join Date: Nov 2010
Programs: AA EXP (owe), BA Silver (ows), AB Silver (owr), WN A+/CP, IHG Spire AMB, Avis First
Posts: 1,414
Some experience here:
Needed a last minute (next day) OS flight from SOF-VIE. OS wanted 300 EUR for the flight so tried using A3 miles. Relatively painless experience, ended up being 30 EUR of airline taxes & fee + 20 EUR booking fee, and 12,500 miles.
A little annoyed about the booking fee, but I guess still cheaper that the ticket cost.
Needed a last minute (next day) OS flight from SOF-VIE. OS wanted 300 EUR for the flight so tried using A3 miles. Relatively painless experience, ended up being 30 EUR of airline taxes & fee + 20 EUR booking fee, and 12,500 miles.
A little annoyed about the booking fee, but I guess still cheaper that the ticket cost.
Jul 15, 2016, 12:32 pm
#959
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 92
I'm deciding between using UA miles and A3 miles on ORD-VIE(OS). Apparently UA charges 25000 more miles (45k vs 70k) than A3 to make up for the YQ that A3 charges, doesn't seem to be a bad deal...
I don't see a lot of ex-UA examples in the wiki... Is it because of this: People preferring to spend more miles on UA to pay for YQ?
On the other hand, my understanding is that A3 does not charge YQ on UA TATL flights, so it actually makes more sense to redeem A3 points on UA metal, since it saves 12500 miles (45k vs 57.5k)?
I don't see a lot of ex-UA examples in the wiki... Is it because of this: People preferring to spend more miles on UA to pay for YQ?
On the other hand, my understanding is that A3 does not charge YQ on UA TATL flights, so it actually makes more sense to redeem A3 points on UA metal, since it saves 12500 miles (45k vs 57.5k)?
Jul 15, 2016, 11:27 pm
#960
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: PAS, Paros Greece
Programs: A3 *G
Posts: 1,374
I'm deciding between using UA miles and A3 miles on ORD-VIE(OS). Apparently UA charges 25000 more miles (45k vs 70k) than A3 to make up for the YQ that A3 charges, doesn't seem to be a bad deal...
I don't see a lot of ex-UA examples in the wiki... Is it because of this: People preferring to spend more miles on UA to pay for YQ?
On the other hand, my understanding is that A3 does not charge YQ on UA TATL flights, so it actually makes more sense to redeem A3 points on UA metal, since it saves 12500 miles (45k vs 57.5k)?
I don't see a lot of ex-UA examples in the wiki... Is it because of this: People preferring to spend more miles on UA to pay for YQ?
On the other hand, my understanding is that A3 does not charge YQ on UA TATL flights, so it actually makes more sense to redeem A3 points on UA metal, since it saves 12500 miles (45k vs 57.5k)?
About the miles... I'm only a member of M&B but the way I'd see it, if I were in more than one program is that you can't really compare the value of miles between the two. Just before both are named "miles" doesn't mean they have an equal value. After all, it's not like you can convert one to the other. There are probably differing sweet-spots in each program where the miles intrinsically become more 'valuable'. This is especially true as some airlines move towards awarding miles on a "spend" basis rather than distance flown. To make a fair comparison you'd have to work out how much you actually spent in earning the miles of the two respective programs.