View Poll Results: Is an American Airlines/US Airways merger good for the traveling public?
Yes
84
28.19%
No
214
71.81%
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Nov 12, 2013, 2:24 pm
Last edit by: aztimm
Note:
There is an existing thread in the AA forum that may be useful to US and AA Flyertalkers:
US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread
As facts become posted, that should be the place to look.
Merger discussion, speculation, and other questions can be directed here, or the similar thread in the AA forum:
MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated, and now closed to new posts)
There is an existing thread in the AA forum that may be useful to US and AA Flyertalkers:
US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread
As facts become posted, that should be the place to look.
Merger discussion, speculation, and other questions can be directed here, or the similar thread in the AA forum:
MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated, and now closed to new posts)
US/AA merger- MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD/incl 'when will US leave STAR'
Nov 27, 2013, 9:15 am
#2461
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Nov 27, 2013, 9:18 am
#2462
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: BOS-DCA
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Posts: 217
Merger Approved by bankruptcy judge. Merger to commence on December 9th.
Nov 27, 2013, 5:56 pm
#2463
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Executive Club (Silver), Le Club Accor (Silver)
Posts: 680
Am I missing another thread on this or have there really been no other posts since the announcement?
Nov 27, 2013, 6:13 pm
#2464
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: New York and Vienna
Programs: PA WorldPass Platinum, AA, DL, LH. GHA Black, SPG and HHonors Gold
Posts: 3,870
Merger Approved by bankruptcy judge. Merger to commence on December 9th.
Perhaps people here wandered over to the AA forum?
Nov 27, 2013, 6:16 pm
#2465
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: SEA
Posts: 3,955
There's a lot more nonsense in the AA thread. Either I have low standards, or a lot of AA elites really do think they're going from the golden chariot in the sky to an airline flying solely CRJ200's. It's a little ridiculous.
Nov 27, 2013, 6:43 pm
#2466
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Columbia, SC
Programs: US Gold, DL Gold, Hilton Diamond, Starwood Lifetime Gold, Marriott Silver, Hyatt Platinum
Posts: 86
Nov 27, 2013, 6:46 pm
#2467
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: BOS
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Posts: 3,581
Nov 27, 2013, 6:47 pm
#2468
Moderator: American AAdvantage & Marriott Bonvoy
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: PHX
Programs: American ExPlat; Marriott/SPG Lifetime Plat; Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 8,116
Nov 27, 2013, 9:35 pm
#2469
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Nov 27, 2013, 10:39 pm
#2470
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Austin,TX (AUS)
Programs: AA, UA
Posts: 767
Many AA fliers expect the merged airline to be USdbaAA. Not that there is anything wrong with that, US does some things well. I think their concern comes from seeing what happened with the UA/CO merger; they do not want AA/US to experience the same missteps as that merger.
Last edited by austin_res; Nov 27, 2013 at 10:44 pm
Nov 27, 2013, 11:21 pm
#2472
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 432
I can tell you all with some certainty that after the merger, the inflight product that US Airways fliers have gotten use to will improve immensely. Be patient as it will take some time, but planning is already in place. This will NOT be a water downed version of US Airways and the LCC BS will be put out to pasture FOR GOOD!!!
Nov 27, 2013, 11:47 pm
#2473
Moderator: American AAdvantage & Marriott Bonvoy
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: PHX
Programs: American ExPlat; Marriott/SPG Lifetime Plat; Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 8,116
Well, if one's fear is USdbaAA, then the HP part is pretty accurate. For those who have been around here since HP took over US, it was pretty much the HP way.
Who would have thought -- HP and Parker becoming the largest airline in the world.
Seriously, though, US was one-and-a-half-feet in the grave when HP took them over. At the time, the model was to create the largest low-cost carrier in the US by combining the substantial remains of US with the low-cost approach of HP.
That is not the model for this deal. Parker and Kirby are well on record that AA is a premium airline and will remain so.
That's not to say that decisions won't be made by spreadsheet, as that's what these guys do. But the variables are wildly different, which will provide different data than was in the US/HP data set. I'm confident that will result in different decisions and a substantially different airline from the current US. I truly believe these guys are not stupid.
Who would have thought -- HP and Parker becoming the largest airline in the world.
Seriously, though, US was one-and-a-half-feet in the grave when HP took them over. At the time, the model was to create the largest low-cost carrier in the US by combining the substantial remains of US with the low-cost approach of HP.
That is not the model for this deal. Parker and Kirby are well on record that AA is a premium airline and will remain so.
That's not to say that decisions won't be made by spreadsheet, as that's what these guys do. But the variables are wildly different, which will provide different data than was in the US/HP data set. I'm confident that will result in different decisions and a substantially different airline from the current US. I truly believe these guys are not stupid.
Nov 28, 2013, 12:38 am
#2474
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Many AA fliers expect the merged airline to be USdbaAA. Not that there is anything wrong with that, US does some things well. I think their concern comes from seeing what happened with the UA/CO merger; they do not want AA/US to experience the same missteps as that merger.
Nov 28, 2013, 5:12 am
#2475
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Posts: 11,453
As much as I would prefer AA and US not merge, I think Parker may have learned a few valuable lessons from Jeffrey's horribly executed merger. Perhaps he realizes that you can't treat the customer and the product like crap and hope to keep people coming back and paying to fly with you.. :fingers crossed:
I know for me, it is a WIN/WIN...