View Poll Results: Is an American Airlines/US Airways merger good for the traveling public?
Yes
84
28.19%
No
214
71.81%
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Note:
There is an existing thread in the AA forum that may be useful to US and AA Flyertalkers:
US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread
As facts become posted, that should be the place to look.
Merger discussion, speculation, and other questions can be directed here, or the similar thread in the AA forum:
MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated, and now closed to new posts)
There is an existing thread in the AA forum that may be useful to US and AA Flyertalkers:
US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread
As facts become posted, that should be the place to look.
Merger discussion, speculation, and other questions can be directed here, or the similar thread in the AA forum:
MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated, and now closed to new posts)
US/AA merger- MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD/incl 'when will US leave STAR'
#2401
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: High Point, NC
Programs: None
Posts: 9,171
Without knowing the ins and outs of leaving *A, I could see the possibility that at least *A flights in what will apparently be a month when US is in no alliance would be able to have miles deposited to US. I suppose that a grace period could even be longer than that if the other *A carriers were willing to allow it.
As I think I said up-thread, the majority of award/paid tickets US issues are undoubtedly on US metal, either domestic or international, so folks on those don't have to worry about getting miles posted. It's only the minority that could have a problem and there's no way to tell how big US considers them to be until announcements are made.
As I recall, and someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong, when CO switched to *A prior to the merger with UA, they said that ST tickets would continue to be able to accrue to CO until a certain date. However, I don't remember how long that was in the future at that point.
With US saying that "reciprocal FF benefits" would be available in early January, the safe thing would probably be to wait to book travel for after the merger until you could book it on AA. The AA and US miles will probably be merged at some point later next year so you'd still get the miles. The only question is whether you can book OW tickets through AA starting in early January.
Jim
As I think I said up-thread, the majority of award/paid tickets US issues are undoubtedly on US metal, either domestic or international, so folks on those don't have to worry about getting miles posted. It's only the minority that could have a problem and there's no way to tell how big US considers them to be until announcements are made.
As I recall, and someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong, when CO switched to *A prior to the merger with UA, they said that ST tickets would continue to be able to accrue to CO until a certain date. However, I don't remember how long that was in the future at that point.
With US saying that "reciprocal FF benefits" would be available in early January, the safe thing would probably be to wait to book travel for after the merger until you could book it on AA. The AA and US miles will probably be merged at some point later next year so you'd still get the miles. The only question is whether you can book OW tickets through AA starting in early January.
Jim
#2402
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: US-CP, UA, Marriott Rewards, HHonors, Avis,
Posts: 4,549
Without knowing the ins and outs of leaving *A, I could see the possibility that at least *A flights in what will apparently be a month when US is in no alliance would be able to have miles deposited to US. I suppose that a grace period could even be longer than that if the other *A carriers were willing to allow it.
As I think I said up-thread, the majority of award/paid tickets US issues are undoubtedly on US metal, either domestic or international, so folks on those don't have to worry about getting miles posted. It's only the minority that could have a problem and there's no way to tell how big US considers them to be until announcements are made.
As I recall, and someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong, when CO switched to *A prior to the merger with UA, they said that ST tickets would continue to be able to accrue to CO until a certain date. However, I don't remember how long that was in the future at that point.
With US saying that "reciprocal FF benefits" would be available in early January, the safe thing would probably be to wait to book travel for after the merger until you could book it on AA. The AA and US miles will probably be merged at some point later next year so you'd still get the miles. The only question is whether you can book OW tickets through AA starting in early January.
Jim
As I think I said up-thread, the majority of award/paid tickets US issues are undoubtedly on US metal, either domestic or international, so folks on those don't have to worry about getting miles posted. It's only the minority that could have a problem and there's no way to tell how big US considers them to be until announcements are made.
As I recall, and someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong, when CO switched to *A prior to the merger with UA, they said that ST tickets would continue to be able to accrue to CO until a certain date. However, I don't remember how long that was in the future at that point.
With US saying that "reciprocal FF benefits" would be available in early January, the safe thing would probably be to wait to book travel for after the merger until you could book it on AA. The AA and US miles will probably be merged at some point later next year so you'd still get the miles. The only question is whether you can book OW tickets through AA starting in early January.
Jim
#2403
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Anywhere I need to be.
Programs: OW Emerald, *A Gold, NEXUS, GE, ABTC/APEC, South Korea SES, eIACS, PP, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 16,046
I sure hope not due to LT status problems (though I'm not holding my breath.)
#2404
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,607
When US ended their partnership with VS, there was a cutoff date after which new itineraries would not earn miles between carriers, but anything purchased before that announcement was made would be honored regardless of travel date. Pretty sure BMI flights were handled the same way before BA completed absorbing them.
Award tickets were still good (though difficult to change). In general airlines seem to be loath to renege on a valid ticket but absolutely happy to change the earning terms on existing tickets.
#2405
Join Date: Mar 2008
Programs: AA Platinum, HHonors Gold, Alamo Insiders, Hertz #1 Gold
Posts: 191
Reciprocal Benefits
Does anyone have an idea what really is meant by "reciprocal benefits" starting January 7. I am SP on US and will be traveling January 25-31st. US unfortunately is $200 more expensive than the same AA route (US through PHX, vs AA through DFW). Cannot justify taking US to the higher-ups. I can also take UA which is around same price as AA except I am nervous due to not knowing when US will exit *A and whether I will have benefits flying UA late January.
I am only SP - by reciprocal benefits... do they mean:
1) Will I still get priority seating, check-in, security, and first bag free when flying AA?
2) Would I have a shot at an UG? I am not going on a high-volume, elite-heavy route, so my chances even as US SP would be good if it was a US flight.
I am only SP - by reciprocal benefits... do they mean:
1) Will I still get priority seating, check-in, security, and first bag free when flying AA?
2) Would I have a shot at an UG? I am not going on a high-volume, elite-heavy route, so my chances even as US SP would be good if it was a US flight.
#2406
Moderator: American AAdvantage & Marriott Bonvoy
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: PHX
Programs: American ExPlat; Marriott/SPG Lifetime Plat; Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 8,116
Does anyone have an idea what really is meant by "reciprocal benefits" starting January 7. I am SP on US and will be traveling January 25-31st. US unfortunately is $200 more expensive than the same AA route (US through PHX, vs AA through DFW). Cannot justify taking US to the higher-ups. I can also take UA which is around same price as AA except I am nervous due to not knowing when US will exit *A and whether I will have benefits flying UA late January.
I am only SP - by reciprocal benefits... do they mean:
1) Will I still get priority seating, check-in, security, and first bag free when flying AA?
2) Would I have a shot at an UG? I am not going on a high-volume, elite-heavy route, so my chances even as US SP would be good if it was a US flight.
I am only SP - by reciprocal benefits... do they mean:
1) Will I still get priority seating, check-in, security, and first bag free when flying AA?
2) Would I have a shot at an UG? I am not going on a high-volume, elite-heavy route, so my chances even as US SP would be good if it was a US flight.
#2407
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: RBKC
Programs: AA EXP and Eurostar Carte Blanche
Posts: 3,850
Yes, good question. And for those who are curious, one of the best AA awards I know is Europe to Hawaii including a stopover at the port of entry for 20k each way, during the winter. That's 8,500 miles of travel for 20,000 miles. Obviously not that comfortable in Y, but with MCE and advance planning it's a decent and very economical way to make the trip. I hope this award sticks around…
You're absolutely right, of course. AA service is indeed inconsistent, just like most US legacy carriers, and at a macro, general, overall level, the quality of service poor compared to KE, JL, EY or CX (at least in premium cabins). Compared to other US-based airlines, however, it's pretty good.
Rats. Is the Barclays CC going away? I didn't realize.
Yes, one should assume so.
Rats. Is the Barclays CC going away? I didn't realize.
Yes, one should assume so.
#2408
Join Date: Mar 2008
Programs: AA Platinum, HHonors Gold, Alamo Insiders, Hertz #1 Gold
Posts: 191
Or does that mean I will get my current SP benefits incl checked bag, possibility of UG, etc?
#2409
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Northeast Kansas | Colorado Native
Programs: Amex Gold/Plat, UA *G, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LT Gold, NEXUS, TSA Disparager Unobtanium
Posts: 21,606
Not sure how u/gs would work as we require everybody below EXP to purchase 500 mile stickers. Does US give comp UDU to everybody?
#2410
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Anywhere I need to be.
Programs: OW Emerald, *A Gold, NEXUS, GE, ABTC/APEC, South Korea SES, eIACS, PP, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 16,046
#2411
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,394
Yes, good question. And for those who are curious, one of the best AA awards I know is Europe to Hawaii including a stopover at the port of entry for 20k each way, during the winter. That's 8,500 miles of travel for 20,000 miles. Obviously not that comfortable in Y, but with MCE and advance planning it's a decent and very economical way to make the trip. I hope this award sticks around…
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21826149-post2358.html
IMO, given some of AA's rules requiring published through-fares , and no Atlantic routings to South Asia, no Pacific routing to India, , and no routing through a higher-priced region even if you don't stop over , it is not a hard case to make that US offers better value in a lot of places on the award chart, especially given that US does not care if you do Pacific/Atlantic routing on the same award. The oneworld explorer award's pretty nice, given, but some of AA's rules are a real PITA compared to what you can get on a US award (and not everyone wants to have 46356536 stopovers).
Last edited by eponymous_coward; Nov 23, 2013 at 10:41 pm
#2412
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: AUS, GVA, and in between
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 178
A data point for people going to Europe: the LH codeshares apparently end starting March 29, and LX/SN end a day or two later. Right now it's not possible to book flights to anywhere in Europe that US doesn't fly to on its own metal; I hope they get some oneworld codeshare flights in ASAP.
#2413
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: PHL
Programs: AA EXP / HH Diamond
Posts: 592
What (coincidental?) timing that QR begins its PHL service one day into the reported OW join date...
#2414
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,970
When US and HP merged, they quietly did away with the HP short-haul award - understandable since that would have included US Shuttle but the way they did away with it was not too nice (basically a new award chart without it - not any specific announcement for it).
With UA and DL already doing a whole bunch of customer unfriendly moves to their programs, the new AA won't be left out
#2415
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: GSO
Programs: AA Platinum, Delta Gold Medallion, Marriott Platinum Elite, Hertz President's Circle, IHG Gold
Posts: 129
So I have an international itinerary leaving January 4th on Air Canada to CPH, and I return on January 18 on Austrian into IAD. Will I still accrue US miles, or should I switch mileage credit to my UAL FF#?