Aug 17, 2013, 10:44 am
Last edit by: Bitterroot
Updates to Wiki as of 20 January 2014
Planned changes in aircraft by date and route:
SFO -- SYD: first 772 departs SFO 27 March; turns to 840 at SYD on 29 March
LAX -- SYD: first 772 departs LAX 29 March; turn off 840-29th.
NRT -- ORD: First 744 departs NRT 27 March (aircraft turn at ORD to PVG and FRA in succession the day following arrival from NRT)
ORD -- NRT: First 744 departs ORD 31 March
ORD -- PVG: First 744 departs ORD 28 March
PVG -- ORD: First 744 departs PVG 29 March
ORD -- FRA: First 744 departs ORD 29 March
FRA -- ORD: First 744 departs FRA 30 March
NRT -- SFO: 852 to operate with 772 27 March through 31 March inclusive (772 coming out of rotation)
Or, you can just go look at the good work here (note that info posted above differs from AIRLINEROUTE info dated 4 January 2014 and before):
http://airlineroute.net/2013/08/17/ua-s14update1/
Or, straight to the source if you want to do your own research:
http://www.oag.com/Global
Planned changes in aircraft by date and route:
SFO -- SYD: first 772 departs SFO 27 March; turns to 840 at SYD on 29 March
LAX -- SYD: first 772 departs LAX 29 March; turn off 840-29th.
NRT -- ORD: First 744 departs NRT 27 March (aircraft turn at ORD to PVG and FRA in succession the day following arrival from NRT)
ORD -- NRT: First 744 departs ORD 31 March
ORD -- PVG: First 744 departs ORD 28 March
PVG -- ORD: First 744 departs PVG 29 March
ORD -- FRA: First 744 departs ORD 29 March
FRA -- ORD: First 744 departs FRA 30 March
NRT -- SFO: 852 to operate with 772 27 March through 31 March inclusive (772 coming out of rotation)
Or, you can just go look at the good work here (note that info posted above differs from AIRLINEROUTE info dated 4 January 2014 and before):
http://airlineroute.net/2013/08/17/ua-s14update1/
Or, straight to the source if you want to do your own research:
http://www.oag.com/Global
[Confirmed] SYD going UA 3 Cabin 777 in 2014 [and other 747 route changes]
Aug 27, 2013, 4:25 am
#421
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 5,814
777-200 showing now for the following:
UA901 SFO-LHR from Saturday 5th to Monday 14th October.
UA900 LHR-SFO from Sunday 6th to Tuesday 15th October.
UA930/931 remains 747-400.
However, from Sunday 27th October UA900/901 vanishes and UA930/931 goes to a 777-200.
It might be UA website screwing with me as no fare classes are showing for these flights and it's overnight in the US, but would they really condense 2 x 747 flights into 1 x 777 during the winter, and even if they did, it seems crazy to kill off the earlier options in both directions?
The seat map for my UA900 has also changed to a 772 on the 8th October, so glad I checked as I had lost my seat reservations!
UA901 SFO-LHR from Saturday 5th to Monday 14th October.
UA900 LHR-SFO from Sunday 6th to Tuesday 15th October.
UA930/931 remains 747-400.
However, from Sunday 27th October UA900/901 vanishes and UA930/931 goes to a 777-200.
It might be UA website screwing with me as no fare classes are showing for these flights and it's overnight in the US, but would they really condense 2 x 747 flights into 1 x 777 during the winter, and even if they did, it seems crazy to kill off the earlier options in both directions?
The seat map for my UA900 has also changed to a 772 on the 8th October, so glad I checked as I had lost my seat reservations!
http://boardingarea.com/milesfrombli...or-the-autumn/
Aug 27, 2013, 5:14 am
#422
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Taunton, UK
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Posts: 1,158
Aug 31, 2013, 5:54 pm
#423
Join Date: Nov 2009
Programs: United mileage Plus 1k and Million Miler, Krisflyer, Air New Zealand, Qantas, Virgin
Posts: 211
Really? I thought the 777-200ER didn't have the range to do that route. That's why Delta had to get the -LR version.
Because the plane breaks down twice a week and they have to rebook everyone on Qantas? That's gotta cut into the ol' profit margins.
Besides, the ancient IFE-less 747 in economy is absolutely awful and makes United Airlines a laughing stock on this side of the Pacific.
Because the plane breaks down twice a week and they have to rebook everyone on Qantas? That's gotta cut into the ol' profit margins.
Besides, the ancient IFE-less 747 in economy is absolutely awful and makes United Airlines a laughing stock on this side of the Pacific.
United ought to run SF-AkL-SYD/MEL.
1K and I've never had a United award ticket routed ANZ to West Coast, seats simply don't exist. And trying to use United.com direct from NZ to West Coast throws out ridiculous prices, like 10k for economy. Very weird relationship between these carriers.
Last edited by iluv2fly; Aug 31, 2013 at 7:07 pm Reason: merge
Sep 11, 2013, 1:54 pm
#424
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SFO
Posts: 9
SFO LHR Aircraft Change
777-200 showing now for the following:
UA901 SFO-LHR from Saturday 5th to Monday 14th October.
UA900 LHR-SFO from Sunday 6th to Tuesday 15th October.
UA930/931 remains 747-400.
However, from Sunday 27th October UA900/901 vanishes and UA930/931 goes to a 777-200.
It might be UA website screwing with me as no fare classes are showing for these flights and it's overnight in the US, but would they really condense 2 x 747 flights into 1 x 777 during the winter, and even if they did, it seems crazy to kill off the earlier options in both directions?
The seat map for my UA900 has also changed to a 772 on the 8th October, so glad I checked as I had lost my seat reservations!
UA901 SFO-LHR from Saturday 5th to Monday 14th October.
UA900 LHR-SFO from Sunday 6th to Tuesday 15th October.
UA930/931 remains 747-400.
However, from Sunday 27th October UA900/901 vanishes and UA930/931 goes to a 777-200.
It might be UA website screwing with me as no fare classes are showing for these flights and it's overnight in the US, but would they really condense 2 x 747 flights into 1 x 777 during the winter, and even if they did, it seems crazy to kill off the earlier options in both directions?
The seat map for my UA900 has also changed to a 772 on the 8th October, so glad I checked as I had lost my seat reservations!
Thanks for the heads up, AdamUK. Am heading to the UK in Oct. and I was just worried about the UA 747 ops record until I saw your post.
My SO and I are on GF Award tix UA 901 Oct. 3, returning UA 900 Oct. 18. Fortunately, after a mad scramble confirming your dates on .bomb, it looks like we just missed both sides of the strange interim 777-2 window before they do away with the 747s on the SFO-LHR route altogether at the end of Oct.
My fear was/is getting our Award tix re-booked on a 777-2 (12 vs. 8 GF) and no elite status for my SO, making it unlikely for GF with at best BF and at worst E+. Not sitting together is not an option.
As Roseanne Roseannadanna used to say, "It's always something!"
Last edited by orclflyr; Sep 11, 2013 at 2:48 pm
Sep 20, 2013, 12:03 pm
#425
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: San Francisco/Sydney
Programs: UA 1K/MM, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Something, IHG Gold, Hertz PC, Avis PC
Posts: 8,157
Last night, both 839 and 863 had a scattering of seats free (less than the difference in capacity between a 747 and a 777).
Tonight, 863 is oversold (F0C0Y0), and 839 is likely the same (F2C2Y1)
Tomorrow, both are pretty much full if not already oversold (F4J1Y3 and F7C0Y3)
Sunday 839 is Y<9, although 863 does still have some space available.
Someone remind me how many seats/day we're going to lose when they go to the 777s?
Tonight, 863 is oversold (F0C0Y0), and 839 is likely the same (F2C2Y1)
Tomorrow, both are pretty much full if not already oversold (F4J1Y3 and F7C0Y3)
Sunday 839 is Y<9, although 863 does still have some space available.
Someone remind me how many seats/day we're going to lose when they go to the 777s?
Sep 20, 2013, 3:53 pm
#426
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Location: London; Bangkok; Las Vegas
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Posts: 8,745
Last night, both 839 and 863 had a scattering of seats free (less than the difference in capacity between a 747 and a 777).
Tonight, 863 is oversold (F0C0Y0), and 839 is likely the same (F2C2Y1)
Tomorrow, both are pretty much full if not already oversold (F4J1Y3 and F7C0Y3)
Sunday 839 is Y<9, although 863 does still have some space available.
Someone remind me how many seats/day we're going to lose when they go to the 777s?
Tonight, 863 is oversold (F0C0Y0), and 839 is likely the same (F2C2Y1)
Tomorrow, both are pretty much full if not already oversold (F4J1Y3 and F7C0Y3)
Sunday 839 is Y<9, although 863 does still have some space available.
Someone remind me how many seats/day we're going to lose when they go to the 777s?
From UA's perspective, if there is more demand than supply, they can charge more for the remaining seats. The result will simply be that it will be much harder to find seats in the cheapest fare buckets, which is just fine for United. Not so much for the bargain basement passengers.
Sep 20, 2013, 5:14 pm
#427
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sydney, NSW Australia
Posts: 895
Last night, both 839 and 863 had a scattering of seats free (less than the difference in capacity between a 747 and a 777).
Tonight, 863 is oversold (F0C0Y0), and 839 is likely the same (F2C2Y1)
Tomorrow, both are pretty much full if not already oversold (F4J1Y3 and F7C0Y3)
Sunday 839 is Y<9, although 863 does still have some space available.
Someone remind me how many seats/day we're going to lose when they go to the 777s?
Tonight, 863 is oversold (F0C0Y0), and 839 is likely the same (F2C2Y1)
Tomorrow, both are pretty much full if not already oversold (F4J1Y3 and F7C0Y3)
Sunday 839 is Y<9, although 863 does still have some space available.
Someone remind me how many seats/day we're going to lose when they go to the 777s?
I would expect the nine wide bodies departing SYD for North America will be very full this weekend.
Sep 20, 2013, 7:26 pm
#428
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: San Francisco/Sydney
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Posts: 8,157
Oct 25, 2013, 2:35 am
#429
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: SIN
Programs: UA 1K, KF
Posts: 59
Is the 747 coming back to Chicago?
Apols if I missed the memo. Searched but did not find.
I was surprised to see the 747 back on the NRT-ORD route while scoping out summer travel plans. Any idea how soon they're coming back? I never thought I'd miss them but I do! I must have blocked all the delays, cancellations and unscheduled refueling stops out of my memory....
Depart:
4:55 p.m.
Mon., Jun. 9, 2014
Tokyo, Japan (NRT - Narita)
Arrive:
2:25 p.m.
Mon., Jun. 9, 2014
Chicago, IL (ORD - O'Hare)
Flight Time:
11 hr 30 mn
Travel Time:
21 hr 25 mn
Distance:
6,274 miles
Total Distance:
9,602 miles
Flight: UA882
Aircraft: Boeing 747-400
I was surprised to see the 747 back on the NRT-ORD route while scoping out summer travel plans. Any idea how soon they're coming back? I never thought I'd miss them but I do! I must have blocked all the delays, cancellations and unscheduled refueling stops out of my memory....
Depart:
4:55 p.m.
Mon., Jun. 9, 2014
Tokyo, Japan (NRT - Narita)
Arrive:
2:25 p.m.
Mon., Jun. 9, 2014
Chicago, IL (ORD - O'Hare)
Flight Time:
11 hr 30 mn
Travel Time:
21 hr 25 mn
Distance:
6,274 miles
Total Distance:
9,602 miles
Flight: UA882
Aircraft: Boeing 747-400
Oct 25, 2013, 2:42 am
#430
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SFO
Programs: United 1K 2MM / Marriott LTP
Posts: 5,071
Yes the 744's are coming back to ORD on select routes.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...e-changes.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...e-changes.html
Last edited by kluau88; Oct 25, 2013 at 2:49 am
Oct 25, 2013, 2:52 am
#431
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Posts: 10,159
Original report was April on routes NRT, PVG, and FRA.
Oct 25, 2013, 3:04 am
#432
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: SIN
Programs: UA 1K, KF
Posts: 59
Many thanks.
Nov 10, 2013, 7:52 pm
#433
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: SYD
Programs: UA 1MM GS
Posts: 255
In the past few days I've now heard from multiple reliable sources rumors/claims that a 777 MEL direct US flight will be added in September or October 2014. Has anyone heard or can confirm the same?
Nov 10, 2013, 8:55 pm
#434
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Syd
Programs: UA 1k 1MM, VA G
Posts: 886
first was seasonal swap of 777 and 747 for capacity
777 for April->October and 747 November ->March
Second was 2x 777's year round and 3rd 777 doing ex Mel service for peek periods
Third was
2x 777 Syd/Mel->USA
1x 787 Syd->IAH (the QF flight to DFW has proved that this a market success)
Nov 10, 2013, 9:02 pm
#435
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Chicago, IL
Programs: Marriott Ambassador, UA Mileage Plus 1K, AA Executive Plat, Marriott Ambassador Elite
Posts: 2,344
I have heard 3 Rumors
first was seasonal swap of 777 and 747 for capacity
777 for April->October and 747 November ->March
Second was 2x 777's year round and 3rd 777 doing ex Mel service for peek periods
Third was
2x 777 Syd/Mel->USA
1x 787 Syd->IAH (the QF flight to DFW has proved that this a market success)
first was seasonal swap of 777 and 747 for capacity
777 for April->October and 747 November ->March
Second was 2x 777's year round and 3rd 777 doing ex Mel service for peek periods
Third was
2x 777 Syd/Mel->USA
1x 787 Syd->IAH (the QF flight to DFW has proved that this a market success)