First Class Monetization, or FCM: The Definitive Thread
Aug 18, 2015, 10:39 am
#2671
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Credit for C+ Purchase after FCM
For some reason I was under the impression that you forfeit the dollars you pay for C+ if you take an FCM offer. Much to my surprise, my flight from yesterday posted with amounts for both the A fare as well as the $29 I originally paid for C+. As such, I will hit PM this week rather than my next trip in a couple of weeks!
Aug 18, 2015, 10:58 am
#2672
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Well, you forfeit it in terms of not getting it back as a refund or e-credit. You paid it and took the flight, so you should get the MQDs for it.
Sep 2, 2015, 8:59 am
#2673
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: MCO
Programs: DL exDM MM
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Just booked MCO-MDW-MCO for next Tuesday/Thursday. Paid $613 for S and T fares. Unusual for me to pay this much but I usual buy 3-6 weeks out, not 6 days.
FCM was $380 during booking. 30 seconds after purchase the FCM went to $581.
When does the DM UG window open for a flight next Tuesday? Today at 5 PM or tomorrow at 5 PM?
Sep 2, 2015, 9:34 am
#2674
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: SLC
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Another data point:
Just booked MCO-MDW-MCO for next Tuesday/Thursday. Paid $613 for S and T fares. Unusual for me to pay this much but I usual buy 3-6 weeks out, not 6 days.
FCM was $380 during booking. 30 seconds after purchase the FCM went to $581.
When does the DM UG window open for a flight next Tuesday? Today at 5 PM or tomorrow at 5 PM?
Just booked MCO-MDW-MCO for next Tuesday/Thursday. Paid $613 for S and T fares. Unusual for me to pay this much but I usual buy 3-6 weeks out, not 6 days.
FCM was $380 during booking. 30 seconds after purchase the FCM went to $581.
When does the DM UG window open for a flight next Tuesday? Today at 5 PM or tomorrow at 5 PM?
Sep 2, 2015, 12:05 pm
#2675
Join Date: May 2013
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The upgrade sweeps are done at 5pm ET, and the windows open at 6 days out for DM/PM, 4 days out for GM, and 2 days out for FO. Generally, the sweeps take 15 minutes or so, and emails come about an hour later (which would make the 4:03 MDT / 6:03 EDT email that you received). I suppose DL just finds it easier to say 5/3/1 days and do the sweeps the night before to avoid time ambiguity by doing it at the exact time.
Sep 2, 2015, 1:36 pm
#2676
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Yes it appears buy ups are more in line with paying a real F price lately. My flight in two weeks has offer that fluctuates between 350 and 450. Being a CRJ7 I would never take that offer even though it comes in line with that moronic $1 a minute rule.
Sep 2, 2015, 1:59 pm
#2677
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What flight do you have on a CRJ7 that's 6+ hours long?
Sep 2, 2015, 6:26 pm
#2678
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If buy-up is for round trip, and round trip is 350-450 minutes that would equate to about 200 minutes each way, or 3 to 3.5 hours each way, which is not uncommon for a CRJ-700/900. You can factor in connections too, and you could get four 1 to 1.5 hour flights, which would still equal about 400 min int total flying.
Sep 3, 2015, 1:07 pm
#2679
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: MCO
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The upgrade sweeps are done at 5pm ET, and the windows open at 6 days out for DM/PM, 4 days out for GM, and 2 days out for FO. Generally, the sweeps take 15 minutes or so, and emails come about an hour later (which would make the 4:03 MDT / 6:03 EDT email that you received). I suppose DL just finds it easier to say 5/3/1 days and do the sweeps the night before to avoid time ambiguity by doing it at the exact time.
If Monday is Day 1 and Thursday is Day 5 one could say that the window opens 5 days and 7 hours before the day of the flight...
Glad I did not splurge on that $600 UG... I will be looking for the reurn UGs tomorrow at 5:00 PM...
Sep 3, 2015, 2:16 pm
#2680
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If buy-up is for round trip, and round trip is 350-450 minutes that would equate to about 200 minutes each way, or 3 to 3.5 hours each way, which is not uncommon for a CRJ-700/900. You can factor in connections too, and you could get four 1 to 1.5 hour flights, which would still equal about 400 min int total flying.
At least it is not a CRJ2.
Sep 25, 2015, 2:06 pm
#2681
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Boston, MA
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FCM Offer on a reservation with a Meeting Promotional Code?
Has anyone received FCM offers on tickets booked via the Delta website, but with a Meeting "Promotional Code" used to purchase the ticket? Thank you.
Oct 7, 2015, 7:53 pm
#2682
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Washington, DC
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Whenever one clicks on my itineraries, there should always be a button next to each itinerary saying "Upgrade for $XXX", unless no more seats are available, there should always be a price until the plane leaves.
This would be very useful to folks that have to travel on economy tickets for business who may be willing to pay out of their pocket for a higher fare without the paperwork. It is also useful for flights where one is willing to pay for business only one-way because of the circumstance (e.g., late arrival, need to finish some work).
This would be very useful to folks that have to travel on economy tickets for business who may be willing to pay out of their pocket for a higher fare without the paperwork. It is also useful for flights where one is willing to pay for business only one-way because of the circumstance (e.g., late arrival, need to finish some work).
Oct 8, 2015, 1:24 am
#2683
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Not sure this is the case for those of us with European addresses and/or who book itineraries using a European based travel center (even on 006 stock).
Oct 8, 2015, 6:05 am
#2684
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"should be". Why not allow a purchased upgrade for anybody if seats are available? (It's just that it would cost a lot more for tatl.)
Oct 8, 2015, 6:15 am
#2685
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Well, it's definitely NOT available for transatlantic. The few itineraries we had this summer; the option was not offered. We have very few 100% US Domestic flights. I made a point of looking for it. Could I be mistaken, of course. But I do not believe the option was there. I seem to recall the same on other (US Domestic) itineraries in the last year (or so). But, like I said, we have very few situations like this; so I can't say with 100% certainty the option was not there.