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NOTE: This thread has been superseded by the thread entitled LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it) Rebooted v2.0. Please follow the discussion there.
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Region definitions
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania
2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.
LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart
Cash & Miles redemptions: buying the max (60%) isn't always the best deal (unless you're purchasing all miles right there). Check here for the best CPM.
Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).
LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it)
#1
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Melbourne
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Posts: 38
LM F and J routes (and occasional special routings)
OK, I'm starting a thread with F and J routes possible through the LM site. This is predominantly for those of us in non-hub areas where there are not a huge abundance of routes, and so there is somewhere LM specific to post coded "interesting finds".
I'm doing this because I'm a newbie to booking award flights so have spent a large number of hours manually trying to figure what routes can actually be booked through the search engine (such as MEL - anywhere in South America), and at times have assumed a certain route was not available at all just because nothing was showing up over the next 50 weeks.
If you are already an expert, please post; but please only in a constructive way (so not - "it is obvious you can't book MEL - anywhere in South America" unless you are explaining why).
I'm going to post in the following format from fares I have been able to find on the booking website - either past tense, or those still showing availability over the next year, showing who the F carriers are:
SYD to
HND: F (TG, TG & NH); J. NRT: F (TG); J. BKK: F (TG), J.
MEL to
JFK: F (UA), J. LAX (UA, UA & US); J. NRT: J. KUL: J. BKK: J. BJS: J. KTM: J. TAS: J. KHV: J. RNG: J.
...and so forth. I will update with many other routes after holiday festivities are done, and I've recovered from the busy lead up to Christmas.
I'm happy to take suggestions on the formatting or make the thread location specific, so as not to create a 'spam' area; but I think it may be a useful resource for those of us still a little green around the gills with LM award bookings, and to keep these posts out of other areas.
Oh, and yes, I do realise that some of the areas that I am categorising as only J may get F award availability later (and hope someone posts 'XYX - ABC' has F through airline Z), and that some that I have categorised F may no longer show F availability until more awards are released.
Cheers
I'm doing this because I'm a newbie to booking award flights so have spent a large number of hours manually trying to figure what routes can actually be booked through the search engine (such as MEL - anywhere in South America), and at times have assumed a certain route was not available at all just because nothing was showing up over the next 50 weeks.
If you are already an expert, please post; but please only in a constructive way (so not - "it is obvious you can't book MEL - anywhere in South America" unless you are explaining why).
I'm going to post in the following format from fares I have been able to find on the booking website - either past tense, or those still showing availability over the next year, showing who the F carriers are:
SYD to
HND: F (TG, TG & NH); J. NRT: F (TG); J. BKK: F (TG), J.
MEL to
JFK: F (UA), J. LAX (UA, UA & US); J. NRT: J. KUL: J. BKK: J. BJS: J. KTM: J. TAS: J. KHV: J. RNG: J.
...and so forth. I will update with many other routes after holiday festivities are done, and I've recovered from the busy lead up to Christmas.
I'm happy to take suggestions on the formatting or make the thread location specific, so as not to create a 'spam' area; but I think it may be a useful resource for those of us still a little green around the gills with LM award bookings, and to keep these posts out of other areas.
Oh, and yes, I do realise that some of the areas that I am categorising as only J may get F award availability later (and hope someone posts 'XYX - ABC' has F through airline Z), and that some that I have categorised F may no longer show F availability until more awards are released.
Cheers
Last edited by tolchok; Jul 10, 2013 at 6:18 am Reason: I was asked to remove referencce to trick-it by a senior member (request was a few months back - but I haven't been on in a while).
#2
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: DEN
Posts: 665
Sorry I didn't record the airlines, but here are some routes where I saw premium availability out of SYD, sorted by final destination:
SYD-AKL: J
SYD-SIN-AMD: J
SYD-BKK/CAI/SIN-AMM: J
SYD-BKK/CPH/FRA/SIN-ARN: J
SYD-LAX-ASE: J
SYD-FRA/LAX-ASM: J
SYD-BKK/CAI/SIN-ASW: J
SYD-BKK/CAI-BEY: J
SYD-MEX/SFO-BOG: J
SYD-BKK/FRA/SIN-BRU: J + F
SYD-DEN/EWR/IAH/LAX-BWI: J
SYD-BKK/BRU/FRA/SIN-CKY: J
SYD-DCA/IAD/IAH/LAX/SFO-CLE: J
SYD-EWR/IAH/LAX/ORD-CLT: J
SYD-BKK/BRU-COO: J
SYD-LAX/ORD/SFO-DAY: J
SYD-LAX/PHX/SAN/SFO-DEN :J
SYD-DEN/IAH/LAX-DFW :J
SYD-BKK/BRU/FRA-DKR: J
SYD-IST/SIN-DNK: J
SYD-SIN-DPS: J
SYD-DEN/LAX/ORD-DSM :J
SYD-DEN/LAX/ORD/SFO-ELP :J
SYD-ADD/BKK-FBM: J
SYD-BKK/FCO/FRA/MUC/SIN-FCO: J + F
SYD-EWR/IAH/JFK/LAX/SFO-FLL: J
SYD-DEN/LAX/ORD-FSD: J
SYD-FRA/MUC/PEK/SIN-GOJ: J
SYD-FRA/PEK-GRZ: F
SYD-ICN/IST/SIN-HTY: J
SYD-LAX/SFO-IAH: J
SYD-BKK/IST/SIN-IKA: J
SYD-LAX/ORD-IND: J
SYD-LAX/SFO-JAC: J
SYD-BKK/CAI/SIN-JED: J
SYD-SIN/CGK-JKT: J
SYD-CAI/IST/SIN-KAN: J
SYD-BKK/CTU/PEK/SIN-KHI: J
SYD-IST/SIN-KIV: J
SYD-BKK/FRA/OSL-KRS: J
SYD-FRA/PEK-KUF: J
SYD-FRA/PEK-KZN: J
SYD-BKK/SIN-HKG: J
SYD-BKK/SIN-HKT: J
SYD-JNB/SIN-LAD: J
SYD-ADD/BKK-LBV: J
SYD-FRA/PEK-LNZ: J
SYD-ADD/BKK-LXR: J
SYD-DEN/LAX/SFO-MCI: J
SYD-BKK/SIN-MCT: J
SYD-BKK/CAI/IST/SIN-MED: J
SYD-DEN/IAH/LAX/ORD-MEM: J
SYD-EWR/IAH/JFK/LAX/ORD/SFO-MIA: J
SYD-DEN/LAX/ORD/SFO-MLI: J
SYD-ADD/BKK-MQX: J
SYD-DEN/LAX/ORD-MSP: J
SYD-IAH/LAX/ORD/SFO-MSY: J
SYD-BKK/BRU-NSI: J
SYD-BKK/IST/SIN-ODS: J
SYD-ORD/PHX/SFO-OMA: J
SYD-DEN/LAS/LAX/SFO-ORD: J
SYD-EWR/ORD/SFO-ORF: J
SYD-EWR/SFO-PBI: J
SYD-SFO/YVR-PDX: J
SYD-FRA/MUC/SIN-PEE: J
SYD-BKK/FRA-PNR: J
SYD-EWR/SFO-POS: J
SYD-LAX/SAT-PSC: J
SYD-EWR/ORD/SFO-ROC: J
SYD-IAH/LAX/SFO-SAT: J
SYD-ORD/SFO-SBN: J
SYD-ICN/IST/SIN-SCQ: J
SYD-ARN/BKK/FRA/PEK-SDL: J
SYD-BKK/GNY/IST/SIN-SFQ: J
SYD-BKK/IST/SIN-SIP: J
SYD-IST/SIN-SKP: J
SYD-LAX/SFO/YVR-SLC: J
SYD-ORD/SFO-STL: J
SYD-FRA/PEK-SVX: J
SYD-IAD/ORD/SFO-SYR: J
SYD-BKK/IST/SIN-TGD: J
SYD-IST/SIN-TIA: J
SYD-IST/SIN-TLV: J
SYD-BKK/FRA/OSL/SIN-TOS: J
SYD-IAH/SFO-TUL: J
SYD-BKK/IST-TZX: J
SYD-BKK/SIN-USM: J
SYD-BKK/ICN/SIN-UUS: J
SYD-IST/SIN-VLC: J
SYD-ICN/PEK-YNT: J
SYD-SFO/YVR-YYC: J
SYD-ADD/BKK-ZNZ: J
Wow that's a long list. Perhaps we'd be better off listing the destinations that do NOT show any J/F availability at all...
SYD-AKL: J
SYD-SIN-AMD: J
SYD-BKK/CAI/SIN-AMM: J
SYD-BKK/CPH/FRA/SIN-ARN: J
SYD-LAX-ASE: J
SYD-FRA/LAX-ASM: J
SYD-BKK/CAI/SIN-ASW: J
SYD-BKK/CAI-BEY: J
SYD-MEX/SFO-BOG: J
SYD-BKK/FRA/SIN-BRU: J + F
SYD-DEN/EWR/IAH/LAX-BWI: J
SYD-BKK/BRU/FRA/SIN-CKY: J
SYD-DCA/IAD/IAH/LAX/SFO-CLE: J
SYD-EWR/IAH/LAX/ORD-CLT: J
SYD-BKK/BRU-COO: J
SYD-LAX/ORD/SFO-DAY: J
SYD-LAX/PHX/SAN/SFO-DEN :J
SYD-DEN/IAH/LAX-DFW :J
SYD-BKK/BRU/FRA-DKR: J
SYD-IST/SIN-DNK: J
SYD-SIN-DPS: J
SYD-DEN/LAX/ORD-DSM :J
SYD-DEN/LAX/ORD/SFO-ELP :J
SYD-ADD/BKK-FBM: J
SYD-BKK/FCO/FRA/MUC/SIN-FCO: J + F
SYD-EWR/IAH/JFK/LAX/SFO-FLL: J
SYD-DEN/LAX/ORD-FSD: J
SYD-FRA/MUC/PEK/SIN-GOJ: J
SYD-FRA/PEK-GRZ: F
SYD-ICN/IST/SIN-HTY: J
SYD-LAX/SFO-IAH: J
SYD-BKK/IST/SIN-IKA: J
SYD-LAX/ORD-IND: J
SYD-LAX/SFO-JAC: J
SYD-BKK/CAI/SIN-JED: J
SYD-SIN/CGK-JKT: J
SYD-CAI/IST/SIN-KAN: J
SYD-BKK/CTU/PEK/SIN-KHI: J
SYD-IST/SIN-KIV: J
SYD-BKK/FRA/OSL-KRS: J
SYD-FRA/PEK-KUF: J
SYD-FRA/PEK-KZN: J
SYD-BKK/SIN-HKG: J
SYD-BKK/SIN-HKT: J
SYD-JNB/SIN-LAD: J
SYD-ADD/BKK-LBV: J
SYD-FRA/PEK-LNZ: J
SYD-ADD/BKK-LXR: J
SYD-DEN/LAX/SFO-MCI: J
SYD-BKK/SIN-MCT: J
SYD-BKK/CAI/IST/SIN-MED: J
SYD-DEN/IAH/LAX/ORD-MEM: J
SYD-EWR/IAH/JFK/LAX/ORD/SFO-MIA: J
SYD-DEN/LAX/ORD/SFO-MLI: J
SYD-ADD/BKK-MQX: J
SYD-DEN/LAX/ORD-MSP: J
SYD-IAH/LAX/ORD/SFO-MSY: J
SYD-BKK/BRU-NSI: J
SYD-BKK/IST/SIN-ODS: J
SYD-ORD/PHX/SFO-OMA: J
SYD-DEN/LAS/LAX/SFO-ORD: J
SYD-EWR/ORD/SFO-ORF: J
SYD-EWR/SFO-PBI: J
SYD-SFO/YVR-PDX: J
SYD-FRA/MUC/SIN-PEE: J
SYD-BKK/FRA-PNR: J
SYD-EWR/SFO-POS: J
SYD-LAX/SAT-PSC: J
SYD-EWR/ORD/SFO-ROC: J
SYD-IAH/LAX/SFO-SAT: J
SYD-ORD/SFO-SBN: J
SYD-ICN/IST/SIN-SCQ: J
SYD-ARN/BKK/FRA/PEK-SDL: J
SYD-BKK/GNY/IST/SIN-SFQ: J
SYD-BKK/IST/SIN-SIP: J
SYD-IST/SIN-SKP: J
SYD-LAX/SFO/YVR-SLC: J
SYD-ORD/SFO-STL: J
SYD-FRA/PEK-SVX: J
SYD-IAD/ORD/SFO-SYR: J
SYD-BKK/IST/SIN-TGD: J
SYD-IST/SIN-TIA: J
SYD-IST/SIN-TLV: J
SYD-BKK/FRA/OSL/SIN-TOS: J
SYD-IAH/SFO-TUL: J
SYD-BKK/IST-TZX: J
SYD-BKK/SIN-USM: J
SYD-BKK/ICN/SIN-UUS: J
SYD-IST/SIN-VLC: J
SYD-ICN/PEK-YNT: J
SYD-SFO/YVR-YYC: J
SYD-ADD/BKK-ZNZ: J
Wow that's a long list. Perhaps we'd be better off listing the destinations that do NOT show any J/F availability at all...
Last edited by zbenye; Dec 25, 2012 at 3:17 am
#3
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lol you have been busy !
#4
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Posts: 1,890
Seems to be alot of juicy ones missing
#5
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: DEN
Posts: 665
Of course. Even I don't post juicy ones in an uncoded list like that.
And I should clarify, since I got a couple of PMs: yes, of course the above list is by no means an indication of what is not available. It only shows what I have seen, and I stopped at the first award I came into for any one airport. It is totally likely that other classes are available on other dates.
And I should clarify, since I got a couple of PMs: yes, of course the above list is by no means an indication of what is not available. It only shows what I have seen, and I stopped at the first award I came into for any one airport. It is totally likely that other classes are available on other dates.
#6
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: DEN
Posts: 665
Sometimes going from EZE to the US you can be served Spätzle. Big savings if you desire just a single serving of it. Central America also offers significant savings to some US.
Last edited by zbenye; Dec 30, 2012 at 8:59 pm
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Also if get just a single serving of it, you may have some problems with the owner.
Last edited by heramato; Dec 31, 2012 at 7:25 pm
#9
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: DEN
Posts: 665
Gulab Jamun is an excellent optional dessert on flights from Europe to SIN/BKK/KUL.
Last edited by zbenye; Sep 19, 2013 at 6:31 pm Reason: Added BKK/KUL
#10
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 25
I suggest you eat kimchi, watch a Hollywood blockbuster, and get leid. Am I doing it right?
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