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Jan 4, 2013, 10:25 am

#16

zbenye

Join Date: Jun 2003

Location: DEN

Posts: 665

Quote:

Originally Posted by yerffej201

O.o

"Increase your post count in your sleep."

Jan 4, 2013, 2:29 pm

#17

yerffej201

Join Date: Nov 2011

Posts: 6,385

Quote:

Originally Posted by zbenye

"Increase your post count in your sleep."

?

I'm sorry, so would you like me to spell out all the tricked routes? Would that be better content?

Jan 4, 2013, 3:11 pm

#18

zbenye

Join Date: Jun 2003

Location: DEN

Posts: 665

Quote:

Originally Posted by yerffej201

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I'm sorry, so would you like me to spell out all the tricked routes? Would that be better content?

It definitely would be better content, but no, let's pass on spelling out for now. Hints/tips would be nice, but I think you're not into that. Thanks for offering, though, and apologies for interrupting your sleep!

Last edited by zbenye; Jan 4, 2013 at 4:25 pm

Jan 4, 2013, 6:44 pm

#19

zbenye

Join Date: Jun 2003

Location: DEN

Posts: 665

Quote:

Originally Posted by zbenye

Gulab Jamun is an excellent optional dessert on flights from Europe to SIN.

For the return trip, I just now saw that the vile movie character never ceases to amaze. It is not only cheaper than the outbound, it's also only 5K more in J than in Y.

Jan 4, 2013, 6:55 pm

#20

derpelikan

Join Date: Oct 2004

Programs: Darth Vader of AMEX, A ladys best friend of Hilton, Pt78 of SPG, *G ,*S, ANA VIP

Posts: 3,933

Quote:

Originally Posted by zbenye

For the return trip, I just now saw that the vile movie character never ceases to amaze. It is not only cheaper than the outbound, it's also only 5K more in J than in Y.

thanks for the help! was not too hard to figure out after a bit of googling .
is there any know "creative" routing from europe to vietnam and back, or any idea how to go to vietnam cheaply?

hints welcome

dp

Jan 6, 2013, 5:01 am

#21

GmK

Join Date: Mar 2012

Location: HAM

Programs: A few

Posts: 213

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valley_MUC

I had no idea how widely spread Gulab Jamun is.

There are other things that are widely spread, further than one might think. Just take the Hula for example or the famous Mr. d'Urville!

Jan 14, 2013, 12:27 pm

#22

Juliank

Join Date: May 2012

Location: MUC

Programs: BA Gold, AA Plat, TK*G, UA*G

Posts: 51

Im looking for some Cheap way to get from Europe to Asia in C for low mileage
But of course sth else tha the casual Russian and the American Island

Last edited by Juliank; Jan 15, 2013 at 1:57 am

Feb 5, 2013, 6:11 pm

#23

zbenye

Join Date: Jun 2003

Location: DEN

Posts: 665

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheresmybagba

...There are things bookable on LM that can't even be booked on the SQ website...

The above was posted on the main thread. I don't want to clutter it up and it might be trick-talk anyway, so took it into this thread. Just wondering if we can figure out what wheresmybagba is talking about. So starting with the most logical - his/her location. These are the routes that LifeMiles offers when selecting SQ out of MEL, with at least one award available in the next 7 months. Does anyone see anything "interesting" here (other than that LM can combine SQ with Avianca/Taca via BCN etc. Or perhaps that's in fact what he/she was talking about?). I'll gather and post the routes out of SIN next, and does anyone have suggestions for other origins to check out?

MEL:AMD:30000:20130901:SIN
MEL:AMS:55000:20130902:SIN
MEL:BKK:30000:20130902:SIN
MEL:BLR:30000:20130902:SIN
MEL:BOG:45000:20130830:BCN,SIN
MEL:BOM:30000:20130902:SIN
MEL:BWN:30000:20130902:SIN
MEL:CAI:50000:20130830:SIN
MEL:CAN:35000:20130902:SIN
MEL:CCU:30000:20130902:SIN
MEL:CDG:55000:20130902:SIN
MEL:CGK:30000:20130902:SIN
MEL:CPH:55000:20130902:SIN
MEL:CPT:50000:20130902:SIN
MEL:DAC:30000:20130902:SIN
MEL:DEL:30000:20130902:SIN
MEL:DME:55000:20130902:SIN
MEL:DPS:30000:20130902:SIN
MEL:DXB:50000:20130830:SIN
MEL:FCO:55000:20130902:SIN
MEL:FRA:55000:20130902:SIN
MEL:FUK:35000:20130902:SIN
MEL:GRU:55000:20130830:SIN
MEL:GYE:45000:20130830:BCN,BOG,SIN
MEL:HAN:30000:20130902:SIN
MEL:HKG:35000:20130902:SIN
MEL:HND:35000:20130902:SIN
MEL:ICN:35000:20130902:SIN
MEL:IST:50000:20130830:SIN
MEL:JED:50000:20130904:SIN
MEL:JFK:40000:20130902:SIN
MEL:JNB:50000:20130902:SIN
MEL:KIX:35000:20130902:SIN
MEL:KUL:30000:20130902:SIN
MEL:LHR:55000:20130902:SIN
MEL:LPB:55000:20130830:BCN,BOG,SIN
MEL:MAA:30000:20130902:SIN
MEL:MAN:55000:20130902:SIN
MEL:MLE:30000:20130902:SIN
MEL:MNL:30000:20130902:SIN
MEL:MUC:55000:20130902:SIN
MEL:MXP:55000:20130830:SIN
MEL:NGO:35000:20130902:SIN
MEL:NRT:35000:20130902:SIN
MEL:PEK:35000:20130902:SIN
MEL:PVG:35000:20130902:SIN
MEL:RGN:30000:20130902:SIN
MEL:RUH:50000:20130904:SIN
MEL:SAL:45000:20130902:IAH,SIN
MEL:SFO:40000:20130830:SIN
MEL:SGN:30000:20130902:SIN
MEL:SIN:30000:20130902:
MEL:TPE:35000:20130902:SIN
MEL:UIO:45000:20130901:BCN,BOG,SIN
MEL:ZRH:55000:20130902:SIN

(if you're replying to this, no need to quote the long list)

Yes, I did remove one line to make an obvious trick not so conspicuous... ;)

Feb 5, 2013, 9:17 pm

#24

zbenye

Join Date: Jun 2003

Location: DEN

Posts: 665

And here's the listing for SQ out of SIN.

SIN:ADL:30000:20130903:
SIN:AKL:30000:20130903:
SIN:AMD:25000:20130903:
SIN:AMS:50000:20130903:
SIN:AXM:42500:20130831:BCN,BOG
SIN:BAQ:42500:20130831:BCN,BOG
SIN:BGA:42500:20130902:BCN,BOG
SIN:BKK:15000:20130903:
SIN:BLR:25000:20130903:
SIN:BNE:30000:20130903:
SIN:BOG:42500:20130903:SAL,SFO
SIN:BOM:25000:20130903:
SIN:BWN:15000:20130902:
SIN:BZE:32500:20130902:SAL,SFO
SIN:CAI:35000:20130831:
SIN:CAN:17500:20130903:
SIN:CCS:42500:20130808:BCN,BOG
SIN:CCU:25000:20130831:
SIN:CDG:50000:20130903:
SIN:CGK:15000:20130903:
SIN:CHC:30000:20130903:
SIN:CLO:42500:20130831:BCN,BOG
SIN:CPH:50000:20130903:
SIN:CPT:40000:20130903:
SIN:CTG:42500:20130831:BCN,BOG
SIN:CUN:32500:20130902:SAL,SFO
SIN:CUZ:42500:20130826:BCN,BOG,LIM
SIN:DAC:15000:20130903:
SIN:DEL:25000:20130903:
SIN:DME:50000:20130903:
SIN:DPS:15000:20130903:
SIN:DXB:35000:20130903:
SIN:FCO:50000:20130903:
SIN:FRA:50000:20130903:
SIN:FRS:32500:20130826:GUA,SAL,SFO
SIN:FUK:17500:20130903:
SIN:GRU:47500:20130831:
SIN:GUA:32500:20130903:IAH,SAL
SIN:GYE:42500:20130831:BCN,BOG,IAH,SAL
SIN:HAN:15000:20130831:
SIN:HKG:17500:20130903:
SIN:HND:17500:20130903:
SIN:IAH:32500:20130903:
SIN:ICN:17500:20130903:
SIN:IST:35000:20130831:
SIN:JED:35000:20130904:
SIN:JFK:32500:20130903:
SIN:JNB:40000:20130903:
SIN:KIX:17500:20130903:
SIN:KUL:15000:20130903:
SIN:LAX:32500:20130903:
SIN:LCE:32500:20130902:SAL,SFO,TGU
SIN:LHR:50000:20130903:
SIN:LIM:42500:20130831:BCN,BOG
SIN:LIR:32500:20130902:SAL,SFO
SIN:LPB:47500:20130831:BCN,BOG
SIN:MAA:25000:20130903:
SIN:MAN:50000:20130903:
SIN:MDE:42500:20130831:BCN,BOG
SIN:MEL:30000:20130903:
SIN:MEX:32500:20130905:BCN,BOG
SIN:MGA:32500:20130903:IAH,SAL
SIN:MLE:25000:20130903:
SIN:MNL:15000:20130903:
SIN:MUC:50000:20130903:
SIN:MVD:47500:20130324:LIM,SAL,SFO
SIN:MXP:50000:20130903:
SIN:NGO:17500:20130903:
SIN:NRT:17500:20130903:
SIN:PEI:42500:20130831:BCN,BOG
SIN:PEK:17500:20130903:
SIN:PER:30000:20130903:
SIN:PIU:42500:20130826:BCN,BOG,LIM
SIN:PTY:32500:20130903:IAH,SAL
SIN:PVG:17500:20130903:
SIN:RGN:15000:20130903:
SIN:RTB:32500:20130902:SAL,SFO
SIN:RUH:35000:20130901:
SIN:SAL:32500:20130903:IAH
SIN:SAP:32500:20130903:IAH,SAL
SIN:SCL:47500:20130905:BCN,BOG
SIN:SFO:32500:20130903:
SIN:SGN:15000:20130903:
SIN:SJO:32500:20130903:IAH,SAL
SIN:SYD:30000:20130903:
SIN:TCO:42500:20130527:BCN,BOG,CLO
SIN:TGU:32500:20130903:IAH,SAL
SIN:TPE:17500:20130903:
SIN:UIO:42500:20130903:IAH,SAL
SIN:VVI:47500:20130324:LIM,SAL,SFO
SIN:ZRH:50000:20130903:

Feb 6, 2013, 3:24 am

#25

belfordrocks

Join Date: Dec 2009

Posts: 5,439

This is for Y, I'm presuming?

Feb 6, 2013, 3:12 pm

#26

zbenye

Join Date: Jun 2003

Location: DEN

Posts: 665

Quote:

Originally Posted by belfordrocks

This is for Y, I'm presuming?

Correct.

Feb 6, 2013, 5:55 pm

#27

zbenye

Join Date: Jun 2003

Location: DEN

Posts: 665

Per request, here's SQ out of TYO (HND/NRT). And a kind person told me that wheresmybagba was probably not referring to routes. :-(

TYO:ADL:35000:20130904:SIN
TYO:AKL:35000:20130901:SIN
TYO:AMD:25000:20130905:SIN
TYO:AMS:45000:20130830:SIN
TYO:BKK:17500:20130904:SIN
TYO:BLR:25000:20130904:SIN
TYO:BNE:35000:20130904:SIN
TYO:BOM:25000:20130904:SIN
TYO:BWN:17500:20130904:SIN
TYO:CAI:40000:20130828:SIN
TYO:CCU:25000:20130904:SIN
TYO:CGK:17500:20130904:SIN
TYO:CHC:35000:20130513:SIN
TYO:CPT:40000:20130905:SIN
TYO:DAC:17500:20130904:SIN
TYO:DEL:25000:20130904:SIN
TYO:DPS:17500:20130830:SIN
TYO:DXB:40000:20130828:SIN
TYO:FRA:45000:20130904:SIN
TYO:GRU:47500:20130904:SIN
TYO:HAN:17500:20130904:SIN
TYO:JED:40000:20130904:SIN
TYO:JNB:40000:20130905:SIN
TYO:KUL:17500:20130904:SIN
TYO:LAX:32500:20130904:
TYO:LHR:45000:20130904:SIN
TYO:MAA:25000:20130904:SIN
TYO:MEL:35000:20130904:SIN
TYO:MLE:25000:20130904:SIN
TYO:MNL:17500:20130904:SIN
TYO:PER:35000:20130904:SIN
TYO:RGN:17500:20130904:SIN
TYO:RUH:40000:20130904:SIN
TYO:SGN:17500:20130904:SIN
TYO:SIN:17500:20130904:
TYO:SYD:35000:20130904:SIN

Feb 7, 2013, 12:55 am

#28

armagebedar

Moderator, All Nippon Airways and Japan

Join Date: Sep 2005

Location: TYO

Programs: NH SFC (*G), JL JGP (OWE), AS MVP, WOH E, IHG SE

Posts: 3,908

Quote:

Originally Posted by zbenye

Per request, here's SQ out of TYO (HND/NRT). And a kind person told me that wheresmybagba was probably not referring to routes. :-(

Thanks very much!

Amusingly, TYO-BLR is coming out as 25,000 miles, which just makes me scratch my head...

Feb 7, 2013, 1:00 am

#29

GS11

Join Date: Feb 2013

Programs: United

Posts: 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by zbenye

Sorry I didn't record the airlines, but here are some routes where I saw premium availability out of SYD, sorted by final destination:
[...]

Wow that's a long list. Perhaps we'd be better off listing the destinations that do NOT show any J/F availability at all...

How did u find this info?

Last edited by oliver2002; Feb 7, 2013 at 2:41 am Reason: shortened the qoute [...]

Feb 8, 2013, 7:20 pm

#30

zbenye

Join Date: Jun 2003

Location: DEN

Posts: 665

WOW. I was sure I already knew them all, but this evening I found a 12.5K C1-C2 that I don't recall anyone mentioning. I was looking at availability departing from the place where the member with the fictitious name lives. That's when I saw it. It's also plentifully available from other origins in the place that we blame, as well as at least one in the good ol'.

(you-know-who can now go you-know-where to download you-know-what)