May 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
Last edit by: Arcanum
Flights operated by Air Canada rouge
NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087
Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.
All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.
Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.
Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR
*Seasonal Summer Service
YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)
USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)
Mexico
CUN PVR SJD
Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)
Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW
Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY
YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA
Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)
Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP
Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE
Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)
Africa
CMN
YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)
USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)
YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)
Mexico
CUN PVR
Asia
KIX
Europe
DUB LGA KEF
What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline
Dec 18, 2012, 1:28 pm
#91
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Wash, rinse, repeat.
Dec 18, 2012, 1:29 pm
#92
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Another reason Qantas established Jetsar as their LCC as (almost) completely stand-alone airline was so they could get away from the Qantas legacy staff pay and duties structure. With Jetstar I believe they started from scratch, and had much greater flexibility in what they could pay pilots etc and ask cabin crew to do. thus the whole cost base was much lower than Qantas and the fares were truely lower, whilst maintaining a healthy profit margin for Qantas.
The cabin crew will eventfully be hired offshore
For anyone who didn't know Jet* was hiring cabin crew from Thailand and they were then being utilized on domestic routes in Australia for Jetstar - for half the cost of the budget airline's local staff.
Dec 18, 2012, 1:31 pm
#93
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When they only have four planes to start with, it makes it difficult to spread the route network across the country.
Dec 18, 2012, 1:33 pm
#94
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If anyone know the legalities involved, what stops the new FAs and Pilots from forming a Union and demanding the same as ACs Unions?
Dec 18, 2012, 1:33 pm
#95
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Dec 18, 2012, 1:33 pm
#96
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so are rogue routes going to be available for aeroplan/star awards?
Dec 18, 2012, 1:35 pm
#97
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And the airline definitely can't avoid paying below Australian union scale. its just that the QF scales were legacy and pretty high!
Dec 18, 2012, 1:36 pm
#98
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I'm surprised DUB survived the transfer to Air Canada rough..sorry, I mean rouge 
Dec 18, 2012, 1:38 pm
#99
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Seen on Twitter:
Q. How do you stop a #AirCanada #Rouge flight attendant from having an orgasm? A. Press the F/A Call Button - She'll never come.
Q. How do you stop a #AirCanada #Rouge flight attendant from having an orgasm? A. Press the F/A Call Button - She'll never come.
Dec 18, 2012, 1:38 pm
#100
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AC has already agreements with the unions on pay and work rules.
Dec 18, 2012, 1:42 pm
#101
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That implies there are a bunch of 'foreign workers' on the Jetstar planes. Not so. But then again, there are lots of Aussies in Thailand!
And the airline definitely can't avoid paying below Australian union scale. its just that the QF scales were legacy and pretty high!
And the airline definitely can't avoid paying below Australian union scale. its just that the QF scales were legacy and pretty high!
Dec 18, 2012, 1:48 pm
#102
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Dec 18, 2012, 1:49 pm
#103
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Seat map for the 763s indicate fins 691/692 (the photo(shop) shows 691 C-GHPE). Funny, the tweeted image shows reg C-FXCA or fin 639. Minor details, eh?
And aren't the three amigos fins 687/689/690?
Another note, AC rouge bookable with AE: YUL-ATH 75,000 miles and $576.55 in fees. Don't yet see any J-like product available, though.
Oh yeah, and 29" pitch on the 319s. It'll be intersting to see if the slimline seats make up for anything.
And aren't the three amigos fins 687/689/690?
Another note, AC rouge bookable with AE: YUL-ATH 75,000 miles and $576.55 in fees. Don't yet see any J-like product available, though.
Oh yeah, and 29" pitch on the 319s. It'll be intersting to see if the slimline seats make up for anything.
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Canad...5bfb3dbbd42e09
Dec 18, 2012, 1:52 pm
#104
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I personally think Rouge is a terrible name for Anglophone flyers. Even Red would have been better in my opinion.
The only plus to this arrangement is the ability to interline tickets / baggage and connections with mainline. It also seems like the status benefits come over to some degree as well. At least you keep your lounge access (but probably not if you are an A3 Star Gold).
I think not maintaining their own website for ticket sales is a fail- if they are trying to give this a serious go.
The only plus to this arrangement is the ability to interline tickets / baggage and connections with mainline. It also seems like the status benefits come over to some degree as well. At least you keep your lounge access (but probably not if you are an A3 Star Gold).
I think not maintaining their own website for ticket sales is a fail- if they are trying to give this a serious go.