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Flights operated by Air Canada rouge

NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087

Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.

All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.

Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.

Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR

*Seasonal Summer Service

YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)

USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)

Mexico
CUN PVR SJD

Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)

Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW

Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY

YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA

Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)

Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP

Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE

Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)

Africa
CMN

YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)

USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)

YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)

Mexico
CUN PVR

Asia
KIX

Europe
DUB LGA KEF


What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 1:57 pm
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Going ROGUE!!

Air Canada has said about half of incremental profits from its low-cost carrier will be derived from cramming more seats into a fleet of 20 Boeing 767s and 30 Airbus A319s. The rest comes from lower employee wages and more flexible work rules.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by worldtraveller73
I personally think Rouge is a terrible name for Anglophone flyers. Even Red would have been better in my opinion.
So it's "Red Valley" then?

http://www.pc.gc.ca/eng/progs/np-pn/...uge/index.aspx
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 2:06 pm
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Originally Posted by djjaguar64
Going ROGUE!!

Air Canada has said about half of incremental profits from its low-cost carrier will be derived from cramming more seats into a fleet of 20 Boeing 767s and 30 Airbus A319s. The rest comes from lower employee wages and more flexible work rules.
Sounds like Sunwing/Transat....
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 2:06 pm
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Originally Posted by CloudsBelow
I don't think you know what LCC means.

They know exactly what it means.


This is a no-brainer in every way for AC.
I don't think YOU know what it means.

Same planes, same union.


BTW, AC just posted to Twitter that it is not an LCC, it is a leisure carrier....so I refer you back to the 1st line of this reply.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 2:07 pm
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Originally Posted by rankourabu
so are rogue routes going to be available for aeroplan/star awards?
Good question, I can't find any availability for AC1900 YYZ-ATH *operated by Rouge.

And I guess for no mileage accrual for other programs (UA, A3, LH, etc) as this would be considered operated by another carrier....

Let's see how STAR benefits translate over, if any. (though they allow lounge access for AC Top Tier)
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 2:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Dorian
I don't think YOU know what it means.

Same planes, same union.


BTW, AC just posted to Twitter that it is not an LCC, it is a leisure carrier....so I refer you back to the 1st line of this reply.
at least Roooge appears to continue with the misleading games that AC plays with wording....so what the hell does "go more" mean?
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by hirohito888
Good question, I can't find any availability for AC1900 YYZ-ATH *operated by Rouge.

And I guess for no mileage accrual for other programs (UA, A3, LH, etc) as this would be considered operated by another carrier....

Let's see how STAR benefits translate over, if any. (though they allow lounge access for AC Top Tier)
I see lots of availability for AC1900 and AC1902 (YUL) in July. All show as 767-300XM.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Dorian
BTW, AC just posted to Twitter that it is not an LCC, it is a leisure carrier....so I refer you back to the 1st line of this reply.
I just logged in to post the same thing. The hair splitting seems quite significant, but AC has been breathlessly promoting it as a LCC in the media for some time.

So, if it is their LCC, what does the other C stand for ? Leisure Carrier C (or Leisure C Carrier)?
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 2:14 pm
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DUB and Hawaii in general are not on list yet because they don't have enough aircraft,... yet

2nd or 3rd phase
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 2:15 pm
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Originally Posted by hirohito888
Good question, I can't find any availability for AC1900 YYZ-ATH *operated by Rouge.

And I guess for no mileage accrual for other programs (UA, A3, LH, etc) as this would be considered operated by another carrier....

Let's see how STAR benefits translate over, if any. (though they allow lounge access for AC Top Tier)
Roooge can use AC's lounges. Roooge is NOT going to have any of its own lounges...it is part of AC, not a separate airline.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by flyquiet
I just logged in to post the same thing. The hair splitting seems quite significant, but AC has been breathlessly promoting it as a LCC in the media for some time.

So, if it is their LCC, what does the other C stand for ? Leisure Carrier C (or Leisure C Carrier)?
playing marketing games as always.
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by rankourabu
so are rogue routes going to be available for aeroplan/star awards?
I can find AC1900/1901 (YYZATHYYZ) available for 75k points (standard econ award).
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 2:17 pm
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a link for those that do not remember...

http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...r+Canada+Tango
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 2:17 pm
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Originally Posted by flyquiet
I just logged in to post the same thing. The hair splitting seems quite significant, but AC has been breathlessly promoting it as a LCC in the media for some time.

So, if it is their LCC, what does the other C stand for ? Leisure Carrier C (or Leisure C Carrier)?
Maybe we are mixing it up with the proposed LCC for Asia that was to be a JV with Virgin (that got canned a month back)?
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Old Dec 18, 2012, 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by mkjr
a link for those that do not remember...

http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...r+Canada+Tango
and so we dont get accused of neglecting the west:

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