May 5, 2014, 8:21 pm
Last edit by: Arcanum
Flights operated by Air Canada rouge
NOTE: Rouge Wifi information can be found here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post28448087
Dates in brackets indicate planned start of rouge service (either as a new route or replacing mainline service). ML placed before a date indicates the date that service is reverting to mainline.
All Airbus A319/A321 service is in the new Premium Rouge configuration with 2x2J seats. All other routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft in a 24J/258Y layout.
Airport codes in blue indicate that these routes are Boeing 767-300ER aircraft for all services.
Airport codes in red indicate that these routes are split between Boeing 767-300ER and Airbus services.
Airport codes in black indicate that these routes are Airbus aircraft for all services.
Routes are organized based on the established rouge bases of YYZ, YUL, YYC, and YVR
*Seasonal Summer Service
YYZ
Canada
YQT YQY YXX YLW YYG (02MAY-OCT) YDF YQB YQM (01MAY19) YFC (01JUL19)
USA
MCO TPA LAS FLL HNL SRQ RSW SAN PHX MIA PSP (14DEC16)
Mexico
CUN PVR SJD
Caribbean
KIN NAS LIR GND MBJ AZS CCC CUR HUX PUJ POP SKB SJO SXM LRM HOG SNU UVF VRA BGI (07JAN) POS (21DEC16)
Europe
ATH BCN EDI VCE MAN LIS PRG BUD GLA LGW
Central and South America
LIM BOG PTY
YUL
USA
LAS MCO FLL PBI TPA MIA
Mexico
CUN MEX PVR (18NOV16)
Caribbean
ZSA CCC HOG PUJ SNU PLS POP PAP NAS (17JAN) PTP
Europe
FCO ATH BCN NCE VCE
Central and South America
SJO (22DEC16)
Africa
CMN
YYC
Canada
YHZ* YHM (2016)
USA
LAS PHX (winter only - PHX AC Express in summer)
YVR
USA
LAS HNL OGG PHX PSP KOA SAN (02JUN)
Mexico
CUN PVR
Asia
KIX
Europe
DUB LGA KEF
What to Do If Your Flight Has Been Rouged According to the AC Rep "Air Canada Altitude": call AC Reservations, cancel and get a refund.
Air Canada rouge, a leisure airline
Dec 18, 2012, 12:25 pm
#76
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: YVR
Programs: ACSEMM QRGold SPGLifetimePlat FairmontPlat HyattD AMEXCenturion SerenaPlat TalkBoard Founding Member
Posts: 8,963
Dec 18, 2012, 12:30 pm
#77
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: A3*G AC*nobody TK*nobody
Posts: 1,967
Draft version of the SPAM
Dec 18, 2012, 12:46 pm
#78
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: YTZ
Programs: Hertz & Avis PC; National EE; SPG & Hilton Gold; AC 35K (yawn)
Posts: 5,921
Going Rouge: An American Nightmare
Sarah Palin has many faces: hockey mom, fundamentalist Christian, sex symbol, Republican ideologue, fashion icon, "maverick" populist. But, above all, Palin has become one thing: an American obsession that just won't go away.
Sarah Palin has many faces: hockey mom, fundamentalist Christian, sex symbol, Republican ideologue, fashion icon, "maverick" populist. But, above all, Palin has become one thing: an American obsession that just won't go away.
Dec 18, 2012, 12:47 pm
#79
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: YUL
Programs: Super Elite 100K
Posts: 830
Wow...
Rouge also means "we'll haul your butt any where on our overpriced sardine can, as long as you want to leave from Toronto".
Seriously, I know it's day one, but how about getting people in Vancouver, Calgary, Ottawa, Montreal, and Halifax excited as well? One pitiful departure to Greece from YUL? Really? Are they this dumb to launch with so little in their goody bag?
Like Sarah Palin, ScRouge will also crash and burn, pardon the pun.
Seriously, I know it's day one, but how about getting people in Vancouver, Calgary, Ottawa, Montreal, and Halifax excited as well? One pitiful departure to Greece from YUL? Really? Are they this dumb to launch with so little in their goody bag?
Like Sarah Palin, ScRouge will also crash and burn, pardon the pun.
Dec 18, 2012, 12:48 pm
#80
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: YUL
Programs: Super Elite 100K
Posts: 830
From the Rouge Web Page - "Where will your next holiday take you? "
Straight to another airline...
Dec 18, 2012, 12:50 pm
#81
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,363
Tight seats is still TBD. Pitch is less, but with new slimline seats the knee room may not change.
Dec 18, 2012, 12:51 pm
#82
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: YYZ
Programs: A3&O6 Gold,IC AMB & HH Diamond
Posts: 14,132
If meals are the same and seats are tighter then what gives? No more Scamcharges perhaps?
Dec 18, 2012, 12:52 pm
#83
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: YVR
Programs: AC*SE MM, Marriott Titanium, National Executive
Posts: 1,586
Rouge also means "we'll haul your butt any where on our overpriced sardine can, as long as you want to leave from Toronto".
Seriously, I know it's day one, but how about getting people in Vancouver, Calgary, Ottawa, Montreal, and Halifax excited as well? One pitiful departure to Greece from YUL? Really? Are they this dumb to launch with so little in their goody bag?
Like Sarah Palin, ScRouge will also crash and burn, pardon the pun.
Seriously, I know it's day one, but how about getting people in Vancouver, Calgary, Ottawa, Montreal, and Halifax excited as well? One pitiful departure to Greece from YUL? Really? Are they this dumb to launch with so little in their goody bag?
Like Sarah Palin, ScRouge will also crash and burn, pardon the pun.
Dec 18, 2012, 1:02 pm
#85
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Left
Programs: FT
Posts: 7,285
Rooooge..well, one day and they are already playing games…when you look at the international fares, you see this…
“International Sample ROUND-TRIP offers from: Taxes, fees, charges and surcharges are included…”
Perhaps they can chalk it up to IT issues….
When you go to the Sun page, below, noticeably absent, language that fares noted are only 1 way….
BUT if you highlight the text and paste it….“Sun Sample ONE-WAY offers….” You see ONE WAY show up…
... Anyone else see this. Took some screen shots to make sure I was not halucinating...[OK added my image....no one way in image but certainly if you cut and paste the text]
“International Sample ROUND-TRIP offers from: Taxes, fees, charges and surcharges are included…”
Perhaps they can chalk it up to IT issues….
When you go to the Sun page, below, noticeably absent, language that fares noted are only 1 way….
BUT if you highlight the text and paste it….“Sun Sample ONE-WAY offers….” You see ONE WAY show up…
... Anyone else see this. Took some screen shots to make sure I was not halucinating...[OK added my image....no one way in image but certainly if you cut and paste the text]
Last edited by mkjr; Dec 18, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Dec 18, 2012, 1:10 pm
#87
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: San Francisco/Tel Aviv/YYZ
Programs: CO 1K-MM
Posts: 10,762
This is an incredibly stupid move for AC.
the fares are no better but the product sucks, the points suck. The only thing that's nice is the tail livery. I guess they want to be another transcrap. If its as bad as TS and TS is cheaper, I don't see how their brand is going to save them.
the fares are no better but the product sucks, the points suck. The only thing that's nice is the tail livery. I guess they want to be another transcrap. If its as bad as TS and TS is cheaper, I don't see how their brand is going to save them.
Dec 18, 2012, 1:15 pm
#88
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Australia and Canada
Programs: Qantas FF Plat; Virgin Aust Plat;
Posts: 799
I like the livery.
I thought one of their models in developing this was Jetstar, a very effective compliment to the Qantas brand. However, looking at the structure, it is a pure Transat model. Space in the market for both while this is nascent and their routes are mainly complimentary.
I would not have kept the AC on the plane. One of the reasons Jetstar has worked is that it has not devalued the Qantas brand. I think the average passenger who takes the cheapest shorthaul connection onwards with Jetstar from a longhaul Quantas flight sees it more as an interline operation than bad quality Qantas.
And the EQMs, especially for Latitude - which effectively serves no purpose if there is scope for upgrades - are insulting, again would have been better to distance the new entity entirely from AC/AP rather than these floor rate flat numbers.
I thought one of their models in developing this was Jetstar, a very effective compliment to the Qantas brand. However, looking at the structure, it is a pure Transat model. Space in the market for both while this is nascent and their routes are mainly complimentary.
I would not have kept the AC on the plane. One of the reasons Jetstar has worked is that it has not devalued the Qantas brand. I think the average passenger who takes the cheapest shorthaul connection onwards with Jetstar from a longhaul Quantas flight sees it more as an interline operation than bad quality Qantas.
And the EQMs, especially for Latitude - which effectively serves no purpose if there is scope for upgrades - are insulting, again would have been better to distance the new entity entirely from AC/AP rather than these floor rate flat numbers.
I should add that, although I don't fly Jetstar much, there are no Qantas FF points gained for most of their fares/routes and the seat pitches etc are definitely those of LCC. You can't check bags across QF and JQ flights (ie you have to pick up from carousel and re-check). Yet very successful, and expanding. In fact Qantas is giving their initial 787s to Jetstar.
But I can't see rouge being anywhere near as successful as Jetstar.
Last edited by RooFlyer; Dec 18, 2012 at 1:30 pm Reason: Corrected typos
Dec 18, 2012, 1:25 pm
#89
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: YUL
Posts: 2,283
This is an incredibly stupid move for AC.
the fares are no better but the product sucks, the points suck. The only thing that's nice is the tail livery. I guess they want to be another transcrap. If its as bad as TS and TS is cheaper, I don't see how their brand is going to save them.
the fares are no better but the product sucks, the points suck. The only thing that's nice is the tail livery. I guess they want to be another transcrap. If its as bad as TS and TS is cheaper, I don't see how their brand is going to save them.
How? It is doing exactly what it planned to do. Cull all the overpriced pilots and crews and pensions and old wood.
This was never established to give people "cheaper travel", its comical people actually believe that. More and routes will go to Rouge and eventually AC will be watered down and they might just be able to make some money.
Dec 18, 2012, 1:25 pm
#90
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Australia and Canada
Programs: Qantas FF Plat; Virgin Aust Plat;
Posts: 799
Rouge also means "we'll haul your butt any where on our overpriced sardine can, as long as you want to leave from Toronto".
Seriously, I know it's day one, but how about getting people in Vancouver, Calgary, Ottawa, Montreal, and Halifax excited as well? One pitiful departure to Greece from YUL? Really? Are they this dumb to launch with so little in their goody bag?
Like Sarah Palin, ScRouge will also crash and burn, pardon the pun.
Seriously, I know it's day one, but how about getting people in Vancouver, Calgary, Ottawa, Montreal, and Halifax excited as well? One pitiful departure to Greece from YUL? Really? Are they this dumb to launch with so little in their goody bag?
Like Sarah Palin, ScRouge will also crash and burn, pardon the pun.
Boy, doesn't that make them an easy target for Westjet and transat to undercut on fares.