ANA (NH) Redemptions using VS Flying Club points - thread locked Sept 2022
Jul 18, 2019, 5:49 pm
#677
Join Date: Mar 2015
Programs: AA Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Explorist, Marriott Gold
Posts: 161
Question regarding dummy booking of the return leg that's not yet available to book: has anyone done the dummy leg before the outbound, then switched it later to after? Seems like it would be necessary in order to book the outbound on T-330.
Example: let's say I want to fly to Japan next year from July 8-18. I can book the July 8 outbound on August 6, 2019. On August 6, can I call and book TYO-USA for July 6 and USA-TYO for July 8, then once booking for July 18 opens up, call and change TYO-USA from July 6 to July 18? Can I do that even though it would technically change which is the "outbound" and which the "return"?
Example: let's say I want to fly to Japan next year from July 8-18. I can book the July 8 outbound on August 6, 2019. On August 6, can I call and book TYO-USA for July 6 and USA-TYO for July 8, then once booking for July 18 opens up, call and change TYO-USA from July 6 to July 18? Can I do that even though it would technically change which is the "outbound" and which the "return"?
Jul 18, 2019, 10:46 pm
#678
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: NYC
Posts: 335
Question regarding dummy booking of the return leg that's not yet available to book: has anyone done the dummy leg before the outbound, then switched it later to after? Seems like it would be necessary in order to book the outbound on T-330.
Example: let's say I want to fly to Japan next year from July 8-18. I can book the July 8 outbound on August 6, 2019. On August 6, can I call and book TYO-USA for July 6 and USA-TYO for July 8, then once booking for July 18 opens up, call and change TYO-USA from July 6 to July 18? Can I do that even though it would technically change which is the "outbound" and which the "return"?
Example: let's say I want to fly to Japan next year from July 8-18. I can book the July 8 outbound on August 6, 2019. On August 6, can I call and book TYO-USA for July 6 and USA-TYO for July 8, then once booking for July 18 opens up, call and change TYO-USA from July 6 to July 18? Can I do that even though it would technically change which is the "outbound" and which the "return"?
2) Flyertalkers have told me directly that yes, they were able to switch the order; and no, they weren't able to.
But why bother? Instead, call August 6 and put a hold on just as you described, but don't finalize. On August 7, call back and change the reservation with a dummy return for July 9 in the "right" direction. The only risk is that VS isn't able to switch the order, has to release your hold, and the award availability disappears. But you also run that risk if you fully ticket in the wrong order and then try to switch it.
Jul 21, 2019, 5:46 am
#679
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 486
It looks like there's a fuel surcharge increase coming August 1st: https://www.ana.co.jp/en/us/book-pla...fuelsurcharge/.
Jul 21, 2019, 5:55 am
#680
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Barcelona, London, on a plane
Programs: BA Silver, TK E+, AA PP, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LT Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 13,051
It looks like there's a fuel surcharge increase coming August 1st: https://www.ana.co.jp/en/us/book-pla...fuelsurcharge/.
Jul 21, 2019, 6:14 am
#682
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Jul 22, 2019, 4:24 am
#683
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 118
So I've managed to book:
LHR-HND 24 October
NRT-BRU 5 November
I need to get back to UK or Europe in the week commencing 28 October, but nothing shows up as available in Business. Any advices please? Is there a Premium Economy option I can select instead for the return leg?
LHR-HND 24 October
NRT-BRU 5 November
I need to get back to UK or Europe in the week commencing 28 October, but nothing shows up as available in Business. Any advices please? Is there a Premium Economy option I can select instead for the return leg?
Jul 22, 2019, 11:21 am
#684
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: NYC
Posts: 335
ANA does offer premium economy awards: https://www.ana.co.jp/en/jp/amc/promo/py_flightawd/
Have you tried searching for availability on ANA's website? Or called VS to see if VS can book?
Have you tried searching for availability on ANA's website? Or called VS to see if VS can book?
Jul 24, 2019, 4:57 pm
#685
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 118
Haven't tried that yet, thanks. So would ANA allow outbound via Biz and return via Prem? Would that mean I pay less miles?
Jul 24, 2019, 5:11 pm
#686
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: YVR, KUL
Programs: AC, MH, BA, AF-KL
Posts: 2,904
I don't think NH's PEY can be booked through any of its partners. On most (if not all) *A carriers, PEY is very much forbidden fruit for partner awards.
Jul 24, 2019, 10:36 pm
#687
Suspended
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: JFK BOS LAX
Programs: DL Diamond; VS Gold; Uber Diamond
Posts: 199
Jul 26, 2019, 5:20 am
#688
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 118
Do you mean to say book a separate cash Premium flight for the return leg? And what of the biz return I already have? Lose the miles, or can I cancel?
I thought redemption via VS needed to be a return booking.
Aug 1, 2019, 1:50 pm
#689
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 53
Just booked a seat in F for April 2020 traveling LAX NRT and HND LAX. Availability out of SFO and LAX was slim so I had to book April 10th on the outbound when I need to fly out a week earlier. Hoping someone cancels or changes their dates before then but not counting on it.
Aug 1, 2019, 3:41 pm
#690
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: NYC
Posts: 335
- the reward has to be round trip;
- it doesn't have to be in the same class each way (e.g., you can fly first (F) outbound and economy (Y) on the return); and
- your choices, subject to availability are first, business, economy (i.e., premium economy is not an option).