US miles as low as 1.1cpm (DM Multiplier promo)
Sep 7, 2012, 2:19 am
#91
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 38
T&C's on booking page
Prior to departure, this ticket is refundable and subject to a fee per passenger for changes or cancellation. The new itinerary will be priced at the lowest available published fare at the time of change, which may result in a fare increase.
After departure, this ticket is non-refundable and subject to a change fee per passenger. The new itinerary will be priced at the lowest available published fare at the time of change, which may result in a fare increase.
Government taxes and fees are subject to change after purchase.
Ticket is non-transferable.
Ticket expires one year from original date of issue. Unflown value expires one year from original date of issue.
You will be charged a $300.00 fee per passenger for the cancellation or refund of this itinerary.
Saw this? What does anyone make of the $300 fee...does this apply to 24 hour cancellation?
After departure, this ticket is non-refundable and subject to a change fee per passenger. The new itinerary will be priced at the lowest available published fare at the time of change, which may result in a fare increase.
Government taxes and fees are subject to change after purchase.
Ticket is non-transferable.
Ticket expires one year from original date of issue. Unflown value expires one year from original date of issue.
You will be charged a $300.00 fee per passenger for the cancellation or refund of this itinerary.
Saw this? What does anyone make of the $300 fee...does this apply to 24 hour cancellation?
Sep 7, 2012, 9:02 am
#92
Join Date: May 2007
Location: DEN
Programs: DL PM, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,816
Sep 7, 2012, 9:33 pm
#93
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: SFO, SIN, PVG
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This information is from the comments of TPG blog.
Allen: " I had my account locked for presumably this. The first time I had a paid ticket for work was going LAX to LHR and i did it once because it seemed like a pretty good deal. I mean, it is! That worked out fine, but I flew that flight. I then tried again but attempted to refund the ticket. US held onto the refund for 6 weeks (I had to call AMEX to suspend the charge as I waited for the refund) and about 4 days after I cancelled locked my account. I've tried several to get through to someone at US who can unlock it but they keep sending me in circles. Lost about 265k miles not including the multiplier i was trying to get."
Allen: " I had my account locked for presumably this. The first time I had a paid ticket for work was going LAX to LHR and i did it once because it seemed like a pretty good deal. I mean, it is! That worked out fine, but I flew that flight. I then tried again but attempted to refund the ticket. US held onto the refund for 6 weeks (I had to call AMEX to suspend the charge as I waited for the refund) and about 4 days after I cancelled locked my account. I've tried several to get through to someone at US who can unlock it but they keep sending me in circles. Lost about 265k miles not including the multiplier i was trying to get."
1) TPG gave appropriate credit to the FT thread. I didn't see anywhere in his post where he took credit for the find. Additionally he provided a detailed write up of his step by step approach to take advantage of the offer and commented on his results.
2) Numerous posts to this thread have claimed that USAir has suspended accounts for abusing this offer yet no one has claimed that their account has actually been suspended. This would not be the first time in FT history that posters have discouraged others from taking advantage of a good find.
3) Why does it upset you that a blogger is informing his readers of current offers? Why did the OP make a thread if he didn't want others to get in on the deal? IMO bloggers like TPG and others sort through the best of what is out there for those that don't have the time to read every FT thread.
2) Numerous posts to this thread have claimed that USAir has suspended accounts for abusing this offer yet no one has claimed that their account has actually been suspended. This would not be the first time in FT history that posters have discouraged others from taking advantage of a good find.
3) Why does it upset you that a blogger is informing his readers of current offers? Why did the OP make a thread if he didn't want others to get in on the deal? IMO bloggers like TPG and others sort through the best of what is out there for those that don't have the time to read every FT thread.
Sep 8, 2012, 3:30 am
#94
Join Date: May 2007
Location: DEN
Programs: DL PM, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,816
This information is from the comments of TPG blog.
Allen: " I had my account locked for presumably this. The first time I had a paid ticket for work was going LAX to LHR and i did it once because it seemed like a pretty good deal. I mean, it is! That worked out fine, but I flew that flight. I then tried again but attempted to refund the ticket. US held onto the refund for 6 weeks (I had to call AMEX to suspend the charge as I waited for the refund) and about 4 days after I cancelled locked my account. I've tried several to get through to someone at US who can unlock it but they keep sending me in circles. Lost about 265k miles not including the multiplier i was trying to get."
Allen: " I had my account locked for presumably this. The first time I had a paid ticket for work was going LAX to LHR and i did it once because it seemed like a pretty good deal. I mean, it is! That worked out fine, but I flew that flight. I then tried again but attempted to refund the ticket. US held onto the refund for 6 weeks (I had to call AMEX to suspend the charge as I waited for the refund) and about 4 days after I cancelled locked my account. I've tried several to get through to someone at US who can unlock it but they keep sending me in circles. Lost about 265k miles not including the multiplier i was trying to get."
Sep 8, 2012, 11:08 am
#95
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: NYC & PEK
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, UA GS, AA EXP
Posts: 292
did anyone get refund after you canceled the ticket?
I made a reservation on sep. 6, 2012 and cancel it after bought the miles. But the activity of my credit card shows US airway charged me and did not refund me the ticket till today. Anyone have similar experience?
I made a reservation on sep. 6, 2012 and cancel it after bought the miles. But the activity of my credit card shows US airway charged me and did not refund me the ticket till today. Anyone have similar experience?
Sep 8, 2012, 11:42 am
#96
Join Date: May 2007
Location: DEN
Programs: DL PM, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,816
What's your question? You seem to have said you already got your refund.
Sep 8, 2012, 12:30 pm
#97
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: PHL
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, AA Gold, FB Gold, ITA Volare Executive
Posts: 3,294
If so, I can only say that on the two occasions I cancelled tickets in the last year, both within 24 hours, on one occasion the money was refunded to my credit card in two days or so, but in the other case it was more like 10 days or two weeks.
Sep 9, 2012, 6:40 am
#98
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Location: NYC & PEK
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Just a hunch, but I think that DOUDOU1980 means that as of today, he has still seen no refund on his credit card.
If so, I can only say that on the two occasions I cancelled tickets in the last year, both within 24 hours, on one occasion the money was refunded to my credit card in two days or so, but in the other case it was more like 10 days or two weeks.
If so, I can only say that on the two occasions I cancelled tickets in the last year, both within 24 hours, on one occasion the money was refunded to my credit card in two days or so, but in the other case it was more like 10 days or two weeks.
Sep 10, 2012, 5:12 am
#99
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: VCE
Programs: SPG PLAT, GP DIAMOND
Posts: 115
Now if you triple your miles on SFO-TLV in envoy, you'll pay $1999 to multiply your miles...
Sep 10, 2012, 8:16 am
#100
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SEA
Posts: 249
How is booking refundable tickets with no intention to fly taking away inventory and increases prices?
First of all, i agree with tommyleo that TPG just copy-pasted stuff from FT providing limited citation of the source (he mentions in the comments that he "did his own research" - yeah right!).
More importantly, what shows that he is ignorant and potentially dangerous for his readers is the fact that he encourages them to book refundable tickets to take advantage of the multiplier. Booking refundable tickets with no intention to fly is a red-red-red flag for airlines, as it takes away valuable inventory. Moreover, it increases the price of the tickets for the rest of us!!
So one would expect that airlines would (and should) go hard on people that abuse it. Thankfully, booking refundable tickets just to take advantage of the multiplier is easily traceable. The sad part is that most of the people that will have their accounts audited will be people that just put faith on an "alleged" expert that is as ignorant as they are, regarding how airlines act.
So, to answer votrix's question the same way i did for TPG, booking refundable tickets and canceling just before the upgrade window is also not against the T&Cs. But airlines tracked these people (thankfully) and suspended their accounts (thankfully x2)!!
In a comment that was removed by the TPG's blog i cited two threads from FT that refer to the abuse of the option to cancel of refundable tickets (I am sure they are many more).
Maybe it will be useful for some to take a look:
Phantom fare to Ensure Upgrade Availability
Phantom Fare to Ensure Empty Seat Next to You
More importantly, what shows that he is ignorant and potentially dangerous for his readers is the fact that he encourages them to book refundable tickets to take advantage of the multiplier. Booking refundable tickets with no intention to fly is a red-red-red flag for airlines, as it takes away valuable inventory. Moreover, it increases the price of the tickets for the rest of us!!
So one would expect that airlines would (and should) go hard on people that abuse it. Thankfully, booking refundable tickets just to take advantage of the multiplier is easily traceable. The sad part is that most of the people that will have their accounts audited will be people that just put faith on an "alleged" expert that is as ignorant as they are, regarding how airlines act.
So, to answer votrix's question the same way i did for TPG, booking refundable tickets and canceling just before the upgrade window is also not against the T&Cs. But airlines tracked these people (thankfully) and suspended their accounts (thankfully x2)!!
In a comment that was removed by the TPG's blog i cited two threads from FT that refer to the abuse of the option to cancel of refundable tickets (I am sure they are many more).
Maybe it will be useful for some to take a look:
Phantom fare to Ensure Upgrade Availability
Phantom Fare to Ensure Empty Seat Next to You
Sep 10, 2012, 12:24 pm
#102
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: PHL
Programs: Former long-time US GP; now AA dirt
Posts: 4,904
Because when you book a refundable ticket, you take a seat out of the inventory for that flight -- and less inventory on a flight (usually) increases the price of the remainder of seats. And depending on the time when you cancel the ticket to get a refund, that added seat may not drop the prices since fares typically increase closer to the flight date.
Sep 10, 2012, 10:24 pm
#103
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 203
Yes
My refund posted 4-5 days after cancellation