Again for Nov & Dec: Buy/Gift/Share miles, receive 100% bonus
Nov 5, 2009, 4:02 pm
#31
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Can we buy 50000 miles, then transfer to others (100000 miles) then another person transfer back 50000 miles to me so I will yield 150000 miles total?
Nov 5, 2009, 4:15 pm
#32
Join Date: Jun 2002
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Ok guys sorry if this is a stupid question, but I don't quite understand how it works.
Assume (we're not members of Dividened Miles) three people open an account. Person A buys 20k points and recieves 40k. He then transfers these miles to person B who gets 80k miles. Then person C purchases 20k miles, recieves 40k and transfers this to person A who recieves 80k miles.
Resulting in two persons recieving 80k miles each (two TATL J class awards) for roughly 2000USD?
Would this work?
Cheers guys
Assume (we're not members of Dividened Miles) three people open an account. Person A buys 20k points and recieves 40k. He then transfers these miles to person B who gets 80k miles. Then person C purchases 20k miles, recieves 40k and transfers this to person A who recieves 80k miles.
Resulting in two persons recieving 80k miles each (two TATL J class awards) for roughly 2000USD?
Would this work?
Cheers guys
Nov 5, 2009, 4:44 pm
#33
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Yes, however you must wait 10 days after you open a new account before you are allowed to purchase miles.
Originally Posted by Crille
Ok guys sorry if this is a stupid question, but I don't quite understand how it works.
Assume (we're not members of Dividened Miles) three people open an account. Person A buys 20k points and recieves 40k. He then transfers these miles to person B who gets 80k miles. Then person C purchases 20k miles, recieves 40k and transfers this to person A who recieves 80k miles.
Resulting in two persons recieving 80k miles each (two TATL J class awards) for roughly 2000USD?
Would this work?
Cheers guys
Assume (we're not members of Dividened Miles) three people open an account. Person A buys 20k points and recieves 40k. He then transfers these miles to person B who gets 80k miles. Then person C purchases 20k miles, recieves 40k and transfers this to person A who recieves 80k miles.
Resulting in two persons recieving 80k miles each (two TATL J class awards) for roughly 2000USD?
Would this work?
Cheers guys
Nov 5, 2009, 5:05 pm
#34
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But just to make sure once again, is it possible to get the double miles when purchasing miles, and then again when transfering them to another account? One "doubling of points" for each Buy, share and transfer separately, and not one doubling per account regardless of what I chose.
Sorry for the confusion.
Nov 5, 2009, 5:13 pm
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Nov 5, 2009, 6:47 pm
#36
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Nov 5, 2009, 7:07 pm
#37
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Even better if you use a buy + share method and have enough for J or F to the South Pacific, potentially via Asia. 
Since I've become pretty skilled with the ANA tool, I remain confident that I can usually find SOME routing that will work for me within a day or two of when I want to go. So this is like pre-buying my tickets.
Since I've become pretty skilled with the ANA tool, I remain confident that I can usually find SOME routing that will work for me within a day or two of when I want to go. So this is like pre-buying my tickets.
Nov 5, 2009, 8:13 pm
#38
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Did you miss that we're referring to C? Round trip, open-jaw or stopover in biz class for about $1300. Most of us have done Y for $300 as MR's in the past which is a great deal. I keep hoping that will pop up but don't actually expect to see that any again time soon.
Nov 5, 2009, 9:23 pm
#39
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*Terms and conditions: Offer available for Buy, Share or Gift Miles purchases made November 1 - December 31, 2009. Bonus amounts will be awarded upon completion of the transaction. Only the first 50,000 miles purchased for each of the buy, share or gift miles services will qualify for the Double Miles Bonus. All miles purchased beyond this limit will not be eligible for a bonus. Please note that Dividend Miles accounts less than 10 days old are not permitted to buy, share or gift miles.
I called US. I was told that only the first 50k for any one type will qualify.
But see below.
Also was told that if 3 people shared 50k with 1 recipient, that would be OK as well as the originator was different, even though the recipient was the same person.
Hmmmm... not sure about that either as other airlines have a max of miles transferred in to the same account.
Even though the math formula is a bit confusing, I agree sharing is better.
The question is if 5 or 6 people can all share with 1 recipient.
so the cost will come down to 567.5*6 = 3402$ for 300k = 1.134c/mile^
What I want to do is
A - 50
1 A - 0 B - 25+25; c - 25+25
2 A - 0 B - 0 C - 0 D - 25+25; E - 25+25 F - 25+25; G - 25+25
3 A - 50+50+50+50+50+50+50+50 = 400k while BCDEFG-0
1 Cost 250+18+30 = 298 approx +298 = 595
2 Cost 1190
3 cost 567.50x4 = 2274
Total 4060 = 400k miles of which 350k are new = 1.16c/miles
I agree this is a real question. 
+1
+1 Thanks
Does this ever give you a mistake warning if you go over the limit?
So if I have shared 50k - will it warn me if I try to share 50k again and again?
Or do I only find out later?
Which is what I want to do.
I was hoping for 4060 for 350k - see above
+1
I called US. I was told that only the first 50k for any one type will qualify.
But see below.
Hmmmm... not sure about that either as other airlines have a max of miles transferred in to the same account.
http://shopping.usairways.com/en-US/...haremiles.html
If I understand correctly, share miles give better value.
you share 50000 with someone else, u lose 50000, they gain 100000, net gain 50000. cost =50000*.01*0.075+30=567.5. Then ask ur friends or relative transfer miles back to u, u will get another 50K bonus for 567.5. total bonus 100K=1135.
For buying miles 50000+50000 bonus=50000*.025*.075+30=1373.75
If I understand correctly, share miles give better value.
you share 50000 with someone else, u lose 50000, they gain 100000, net gain 50000. cost =50000*.01*0.075+30=567.5. Then ask ur friends or relative transfer miles back to u, u will get another 50K bonus for 567.5. total bonus 100K=1135.
For buying miles 50000+50000 bonus=50000*.025*.075+30=1373.75
The question is if 5 or 6 people can all share with 1 recipient.
so the cost will come down to 567.5*6 = 3402$ for 300k = 1.134c/mile^
What I want to do is
A - 50
1 A - 0 B - 25+25; c - 25+25
2 A - 0 B - 0 C - 0 D - 25+25; E - 25+25 F - 25+25; G - 25+25
3 A - 50+50+50+50+50+50+50+50 = 400k while BCDEFG-0
1 Cost 250+18+30 = 298 approx +298 = 595
2 Cost 1190
3 cost 567.50x4 = 2274
Total 4060 = 400k miles of which 350k are new = 1.16c/miles
Interesting. I was more interested in how the share factors into the equation. Over the summer, the bonus was for buy and gift, but share was left out. With sharing now included in the bonus, I am wondering about the limits. The terms at the bottom of the share page say that the limit is imposed on those miles purchased, but shared miles are not purchased - they are shared. One of these days, USAirways will get someone other than the intern to write their T&Cs.
Does this ever give you a mistake warning if you go over the limit?
So if I have shared 50k - will it warn me if I try to share 50k again and again?
Or do I only find out later?
Can you please confirm one thing - by 'successfully completed' do you mean that you have shared and gifted TO OTHER PEOPLE, or have you been the beneficiary of miles shared and gifted TO YOU?
It is still not clear to me if I could get 5 different people to buy 25,000 miles (double to 50k) and then have those 5 people each gift their 50k miles to me, with me receiving 100k from each. In this scenario my account would have benefitted from 250,000 bonus miles.
It is still not clear to me if I could get 5 different people to buy 25,000 miles (double to 50k) and then have those 5 people each gift their 50k miles to me, with me receiving 100k from each. In this scenario my account would have benefitted from 250,000 bonus miles.
I can't answer this, but I can enhance fsa_ea's report a little. Two account holders in my household were each able to buy 50,000 miles, buy another 50,000 miles for each other ("gift") and transfer 50,000 miles to each other ("share"). Each transaction generated 50,000 bonus miles, resulting in a net balance increase of 250,000 miles for each account.
Cost: 6,630 USD for 500,000 miles (bought +300,000; bonus +300,000; transferred -100,000). Cost per mile: approx. 1.326 cents.
Your method would get the cost down to just under 6,347 USD or approx. 1.269 cents per mile, so it's worth considering. The 'simple' method, on the other hand, has the advantages of only requiring two accounts (rather than six!) and being quite unambiguously within the T&C of the promotion.
Cost: 6,630 USD for 500,000 miles (bought +300,000; bonus +300,000; transferred -100,000). Cost per mile: approx. 1.326 cents.
Your method would get the cost down to just under 6,347 USD or approx. 1.269 cents per mile, so it's worth considering. The 'simple' method, on the other hand, has the advantages of only requiring two accounts (rather than six!) and being quite unambiguously within the T&C of the promotion.
The safe assumption has to be that with two accounts you can get 250,000 miles onto each account, as described above.
It might be possible to "gift" or "share" more often, i.e. the US Airways and points.com computers might allow additional transactions to go through. But you wouldn't have a leg to stand on if a subsequent audit led to the extra bonus miles being removed. In that case, you'd either be paying full price for "gifted" miles or (even worse) paying the "share miles" price for zero net gain.
I'm happy to leave it at 250,000 per account for several reasons. For a start, it already represents an investment of over 6,500 USD. That's more than enough to be entrusting to any airline at the moment. It will take a while to burn 500,000 miles -- and at some point in the coming year I need to pay for a couple of long-haul flights with real money, in order to retain status.
It might be possible to "gift" or "share" more often, i.e. the US Airways and points.com computers might allow additional transactions to go through. But you wouldn't have a leg to stand on if a subsequent audit led to the extra bonus miles being removed. In that case, you'd either be paying full price for "gifted" miles or (even worse) paying the "share miles" price for zero net gain.
I'm happy to leave it at 250,000 per account for several reasons. For a start, it already represents an investment of over 6,500 USD. That's more than enough to be entrusting to any airline at the moment. It will take a while to burn 500,000 miles -- and at some point in the coming year I need to pay for a couple of long-haul flights with real money, in order to retain status.
Last edited by ffI; Nov 5, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Nov 6, 2009, 3:48 am
#40
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Looking for transfer partner
I am looking for a transfer partner for 50,000 miles. I only have 15,000 in the account, so I can't initiate the transfer. I promise to transfer 50K back immediately.
Thanks
Thanks
Nov 6, 2009, 9:33 am
#41
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I did...was taking C to = coach...so a cabin description not a fare description.
Nov 6, 2009, 2:11 pm
#42
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I just completed the following transactions...
I bought 50k+50k bonus = 100k for $1375
My partner did the same = 100k for $1375
($.01374 per mile for a total of $2750 for 200k for us in 2 accounts or 100k each account)
Shared 50k, so -50k + 50k = 50k for $567.50
My partner did the same = 50k for $567.50
($.01294 per mile for a total of $1135 for 100k for us in 2 accounts or 50k in each account)
Sharing is the better way for sure but you need to get multiple people involved. Too complicated for me.
Each of us gained 150k in our accounts for a total of $1942.50. That should net us a Business Class ticket to Asia or Africa with points to spare so I think I'm going to stop here and not use the remaining "gift" miles. Don't need that many miles laying around in my account when I think about the cash outlay.
Also, I tested the system to see what would happen if I tried to share again and I got the following message...
The bonus limit for this promotion is 50,000 miles. Your recipient has already received 50,000 miles, therefore your bonus for this transaction is capped at 0 miles.
I bought 50k+50k bonus = 100k for $1375
My partner did the same = 100k for $1375
($.01374 per mile for a total of $2750 for 200k for us in 2 accounts or 100k each account)
Shared 50k, so -50k + 50k = 50k for $567.50
My partner did the same = 50k for $567.50
($.01294 per mile for a total of $1135 for 100k for us in 2 accounts or 50k in each account)
Sharing is the better way for sure but you need to get multiple people involved. Too complicated for me.
Each of us gained 150k in our accounts for a total of $1942.50. That should net us a Business Class ticket to Asia or Africa with points to spare so I think I'm going to stop here and not use the remaining "gift" miles. Don't need that many miles laying around in my account when I think about the cash outlay.
Also, I tested the system to see what would happen if I tried to share again and I got the following message...
The bonus limit for this promotion is 50,000 miles. Your recipient has already received 50,000 miles, therefore your bonus for this transaction is capped at 0 miles.
Nov 6, 2009, 7:10 pm
#43
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Great deal, I am also looking for transfer partner with 40k or 50k balance to start the share process and benefit both of us. Please PM.
Nov 7, 2009, 9:19 am
#44
Join Date: Nov 2005
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I have several family members that have accounts but do not really use them. Would it be possible I could transfer miles to them and then back to me. My question is if I transfer back from there account to mine can I use my credit card? or does it have to be there credit card?
Also for each person that tranfers to me would I get 50,000 miles if I transfer 25,000 to me?
Also for each person that tranfers to me would I get 50,000 miles if I transfer 25,000 to me?
Nov 7, 2009, 10:21 am
#45
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I have several family members that have accounts but do not really use them. Would it be possible I could transfer miles to them and then back to me. My question is if I transfer back from there account to mine can I use my credit card? or does it have to be there credit card?
Also for each person that tranfers to me would I get 50,000 miles if I transfer 25,000 to me?
Also for each person that tranfers to me would I get 50,000 miles if I transfer 25,000 to me?
As long as they get their money, can't see them saying "no".