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mpiotrow Oct 27, 2022 3:40 am


Originally Posted by jsloan (Post 34710580)
So, if you were going to get a fare difference refund / FFC during SDC, I'd expect that you'd get one with the regular change flights tool also. But it's entirely possible that SDC might charge you more to move to economy than to stay in business. (I guess it's somewhat possible that SDC is using historical fares and ignoring advance purchase requirements in cases when it shouldn't, but I've never seen that).

I've never used SDC to switch to a different fare class, so I didn't know it would even be possible to switch to a different class of service (downgrading from business to economy, for example). I'll see what my options are during check-in in just over 24 hours.


Originally Posted by jsloan (Post 34710580)
It'll be in the endorsements in your receipt -- either REFUNDABLE or NONREF should be included.

I checked my receipt, and I see the following, so yes, it must be refundable:

Fare Rules
Additional charges may apply for changes in addition to any fare rules listed.
REF/CXL FEE/OVALUAFTDPT
However, I also just checked the fare rules from another receipt for a different fare (coming up in February), and I see the same message as above. Since the purchase date, I then made a change 4 days ago, and the fare rules remained the same, but then I changed it again yesterday, and now it reads the following:

Fare Rules
Additional charges may apply for changes in addition to any fare rules listed.
NONREF/0VALUAFTDPT
Cancel reservations before the scheduled departure time or TICKET HAS NO VALUE.
Any idea why it seems to have gone from REF to NONREF? I still have a P fare, through all of my changes, if that matters.

Lux Flyer Oct 27, 2022 7:18 am


Originally Posted by mpiotrow (Post 34712163)
Any idea why it seems to have gone from REF to NONREF? I still have a P fare, through all of my changes, if that matters.

Because the fare you were rebooked into when making a change was a non-refundable fare. There are multiple fare fililngs at each level of booking code. So there may be a refundable P-fare which you had before, and now you are in a non-refundable P-fare.

PPburner Oct 27, 2022 7:50 am

An odd situation here (so odd I created a burner account, though I post here with some frequency) - I've been using plus points, with some success, this year. The upgrades clear but the points don't ultimately come out of my account. End result is I have more PP showing than I "should" - can't really detect a pattern because sometimes they are deducted, other times not. There may be some connection with how close to departure they clear, but even that isn't a predictor.

Most of them will expire 1/31/23 anyway, but thoughts on what might happen if I use ones that I don't have before then? (I'd be happy to give them miles for the upgrades . . .)

And perhaps this explains the glut of PPs everyone is complaining about!

fumje Oct 27, 2022 8:52 am

However many pluspoints are in your account is the amount you have available to use. Whether you applied them to previous reservations or not doesn't affect them going forward.

Kmxu Oct 27, 2022 9:00 am


Originally Posted by PPburner (Post 34712576)
An odd situation here (so odd I created a burner account, though I post here with some frequency) - I've been using plus points, with some success, this year. The upgrades clear but the points don't ultimately come out of my account. End result is I have more PP showing than I "should" - can't really detect a pattern because sometimes they are deducted, other times not. There may be some connection with how close to departure they clear, but even that isn't a predictor.

Most of them will expire 1/31/23 anyway, but thoughts on what might happen if I use ones that I don't have before then? (I'd be happy to give them miles for the upgrades . . .)

And perhaps this explains the glut of PPs everyone is complaining about!

Welcome to FT again. There will be a PPburners account coming up soon.🤪

UA has not created another code to deduct your PPs after the fact. But it may happen. I had a recent schedule change related to an award booking. 1K agent did not properly deduct miles from my account when she changed my flights. But UA took my miles a few day later. I had no problem with the correction. I became puzzled with a new email with my itinerary. Then I checked my account activity, which was correctly posted.

AirMiles2001 Nov 7, 2022 9:21 am

I'm sure this must have been asked before but I just can't find it.

I'm booked in W and am #3 on the upgrade list using PP. Is there any way at all to find out if buying up into a higher fare class would get me higher on the list?

Thanks!

jsloan Nov 7, 2022 9:25 am


Originally Posted by AirMiles2001 (Post 34739447)
I'm sure this must have been asked before but I just can't find it.

I'm booked in W and am #3 on the upgrade list using PP. Is there any way at all to find out if buying up into a higher fare class would get me higher on the list?

Thanks!

Not really, no.

fumje Nov 7, 2022 9:27 am


Originally Posted by AirMiles2001 (Post 34739447)
I'm sure this must have been asked before but I just can't find it.

I'm booked in W and am #3 on the upgrade list using PP. Is there any way at all to find out if buying up into a higher fare class would get me higher on the list?

Thanks!

No free way. (The non-free way is buying the higher fare class. 😖 )

AirMiles2001 Nov 7, 2022 9:30 am

Thanks, figured. At least I know I asked!

wcj1 Nov 7, 2022 4:23 pm

So we have a round-trip LAX-HND, where LAX-HND is in economy and HND-LAX is already confirmed in PremiumPlus with PlusPoints.

The fare has dropped, so if I change the outbound in economy to LAX-NRT, united.com says we would get $135 back each in travel credits. If I do this, and do not touch the confirmed HND-LAX during this change, will the upgrade be ok or is there a chance it will mess up our confirmed PremiumPlus?

I feel like it should be a straightforward change, but then I know sometimes weird things happen.

cfischer Nov 7, 2022 4:34 pm


Originally Posted by wcj1 (Post 34740591)
So we have a round-trip LAX-HND, where LAX-HND is in economy and HND-LAX is already confirmed in PremiumPlus with PlusPoints.

The fare has dropped, so if I change the outbound in economy to LAX-NRT, united.com says we would get $135 back each in travel credits. If I do this, and do not touch the confirmed HND-LAX during this change, will the upgrade be ok or is there a chance it will mess up our confirmed PremiumPlus?

I feel like it should be a straightforward change, but then I know sometimes weird things happen.

call it in. Don't do it on the web. I have had issues w/ this in the past and it took quite a bit of effort to restore.

Flying Machine Nov 12, 2022 4:21 pm

Current 1K whom will be Gold effective 2/1/23 They currently have PPs with expiry of 7/31/23. What will happen to those PPs once they drop to Gold effective 2/1/23?

Thanks in advance

cfischer Nov 12, 2022 4:24 pm


Originally Posted by Flying Machine (Post 34753546)
Current 1K whom will be Gold effective 2/1/23 They currently have PPs with expiry of 7/31/23. What will happen to those PPs once they drop to Gold effective 2/1/23?

Thanks in advance

they remain valid. Your priority will drop when you request an UG after your status drops.

spartacusmcfly Nov 12, 2022 4:55 pm


Originally Posted by cfischer (Post 34753552)
they remain valid. Your priority will drop when you request an UG after your status drops.

And remember, the fare class required to use the PP is roughly 50%-100% more expensive than a normal economy fare, so be certain they will clear before purchasing the higher fare.

Lux Flyer Nov 12, 2022 5:07 pm


Originally Posted by spartacusmcfly (Post 34753636)
And remember, the fare class required to use the PP is roughly 50%-100% more expensive than a normal economy fare, so be certain they will clear before purchasing the higher fare.

What? On UA there aren't any fare class restrictions (beyond basic economy not being eligible), the only thing fare class influences is the amount of PP required.


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