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#16
Join Date: Sep 2006
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This survey will not bring meaningful change - likely some VP told some Managing Director who then told a business analyst to do a survey who will eventually do a powerpoint of the results - make a presentation - get a pat on the back - and then they move on.
#17
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Now, we are still at basically the same service level, and it's totally inadequate compared to AA/DL, who have recently surpassed United's offering. So, hopefully enough feedback to this end results from this survey, and we see some further return to normalcy.
Moral of the story... they don't listen to everything, but they do listen, and the survey results inform some change.
#18




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#19




Join Date: Feb 2010
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Back on point - the "granite" tray tables may feel solid when deployed, but I also don't like how careful you have to be when closing it back up. I'd say on 1 out of every 3 or 4 flights I end help helping the person next to me stow the tray table.
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#20
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I think the current seats are pretty bad... The survey was interesting, slightly.. but it focused on wine.. what aspects were important... for starters not being awful.
I told them, lets get some decent wine, I don't expect $100 bottles in domestic F, but not $4 bottles of swill either. Even AC serves decent wine in J, and they're a cheap-skate airline.
I told them, lets get some decent wine, I don't expect $100 bottles in domestic F, but not $4 bottles of swill either. Even AC serves decent wine in J, and they're a cheap-skate airline.
#21
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: HNL
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I will say... a year or so ago, United sent out a survey regarding pandemic policies, and the overall theme was, "should we be engaging in more theater, or less?" I commented blisteringly about my view, at the time, that the notion of "reducing touchpoints" and "for your health and safety..." was completely disingenuous, transparent and tiresome. I actually heard back from someone at United and their response was, "we hear you, you are by no means the only person who feels this way, and we want you to know that things are changing soon." A few weeks later, United was the first of the US3 to restore tray meal service in non-premium transcon markets, and made some other adjustments to the product that were well-received THEN.
Now, we are still at basically the same service level, and it's totally inadequate compared to AA/DL, who have recently surpassed United's offering. So, hopefully enough feedback to this end results from this survey, and we see some further return to normalcy.
Moral of the story... they don't listen to everything, but they do listen, and the survey results inform some change.
Now, we are still at basically the same service level, and it's totally inadequate compared to AA/DL, who have recently surpassed United's offering. So, hopefully enough feedback to this end results from this survey, and we see some further return to normalcy.
Moral of the story... they don't listen to everything, but they do listen, and the survey results inform some change.
#22




Join Date: Nov 2019
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Posts: 74
do they need a survey to be told the window and aisle armrests are so cheaply made that I can't remember the last time I was on a plane in the new configuration and they weren't sagging downwards?
#24
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Sometimes in a corporation people may know what the problems are and what changes need to be made but they need hard data to help grease the wheels of change.
#25


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Real customer feedback can be invaluable to companies if they take the time to listen and implement change. I think over the years and all the surveys that United has ever put out, that UA, like most of you have said, have already made up their mind anyways. I recall a time within the last decade that United was having people spend 6+ hours sitting in some demo seats just to get feedback. Apparently all that effort never went anywhere because the new product is a disaster as we all know. I also want to point out that whoever designs or approves the seats obviously is clueless, why is it so bloody hard to put a power outlet or a DIRECTV controller or a headphone jack where it might be easily accessed? Some locations for the power plugs are so ridiculous.
#26


Join Date: Jun 2005
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The hot sandwiches in the brown plastic bags are just awful. We are going on month 22 of these. I can't even look at them. I do EWR Florida a lot, and this just has to go. When they started them in May of 2020, they were leaders, well, now they aren't. I just for the life of me don't understand why this can't change. It doesn't have to be elaborate at all, but something simple, fresh and imaginative would be appreciated.
#27




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No need for an expensive survey. All they need to do is serve that slop they call food in the executive dining rooms at HQ. Boom. Done.
And while they are thinking about the product, perhaps they can train the FA's that their primary job is to provide service that includes safety. If I tell my executive management that I am going to pick and choose my assignments, keep your opinions to yourselves, thank you, I'll soon be picking up my final paycheck on the way out the door,
#28


Join Date: Jan 2005
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I don't like when they put their leg up and their foot is on your arm rest. Poor design.
#29




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And regrettably, they can also use the surveys to track progress over time: e.g. if this latest survey has just 1% less overall complaints about the food (different wording of the questions notwithstanding), they can call it an improvement, and produce proof that whatever they implemented since the last survey is working.
#30
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This.
And regrettably, they can also use the surveys to track progress over time: e.g. if this latest survey has just 1% less overall complaints about the food (different wording of the questions notwithstanding), they can call it an improvement, and produce proof that whatever they implemented since the last survey is working.
And regrettably, they can also use the surveys to track progress over time: e.g. if this latest survey has just 1% less overall complaints about the food (different wording of the questions notwithstanding), they can call it an improvement, and produce proof that whatever they implemented since the last survey is working.

