I wouldn't call it misplaced. Two crashes in a short period of time with similar characteristics. Yes, of course it's possible they're totally unrelated, but who are you to tell people what they should be concerned about when it comes to their lives? What's wrong with wanting to avoid something suspect until you have clear evidence that it's not an issue with the aircraft?

Lots of speculation out there. We should wait for something official to emerge that indicates the nature of the issue (if these crashes are related). Watching Boeing's PR would be the best indicator....

Hopefully this is resolved, as I have enjoyed flying the MAX. Too bad there is a stain on the record of this exceptional aircraft.

Exceptional? Nothing exceptional about two of them killing more than 300 people in 6 months.

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Reading through the news reports and various posts in this thread, it struck me this tragic accident may be the result of two things going wrong:

1) Engine failure on or right after takeoff.
2) Automated flight control systems reacting improperly to the event.

Aircraft are designed to take off on one engine once past critical runway speed so that's nothing new. However, has this new flight control system ever kicked in on an actual flight where this occurred? Certainly Boeing tested this at some point but they may never have done this from an airport at 7,000+ feet.

Yes, I know these are all speculations and I don't mean to put them out there as a suggestion of what actually happened. Just thoughts that came to mind this morning.

Look, not everyone is so brand loyal that they will risk their lives because a PR department is saying the aircraft is perfectly safe to fly. If it doesn't matter to you, fine, but don't tell others that they're just in hysterics for being wary about a new model that's killed 300 people within 6 months.

The connotations around the term "mass hysteria" imply that it's overblown, which I don't agree with.

I hardly think slapping new engines on a 60 year old plane yet again (for the fourth time actually) qualifies as an exceptional aircraft. Boeing and to a similar extent Airbus both are milking old narrowbody aircraft too hard without actually innovating and designing new aircraft.

You are putting words into people's mouths, including my own. Stop shaming us by standing on the graves of 300 dead passengers and let due course prevail. Nobody feels comfy here, and we are entitled to opinions. The truth will emerge in due time, and in this case, quickly such that a decision can be made as to whether the MAX can keep flying safely for now.

Now also banned in the UK, for landing, take-off or over-flight. TUI and Norwegian are the most affected with 30 plus aircraft between them.

I am a captain on the 737 and have flown the Max-9 many times now and there is nothing that gives me pause to get in one and fly it. The 2 crashes were 737 Max-8s and that is probably a coincidence really as the most likely causes will in both cases boil down to poor maintenance (Lion Air), poorly trained crew (Lion +Ethiopian), and inexperience (Ethiopian). The first officer on Ethiopian had 200 hours of total flight time which means totally worthless in any emergency and if they were flying at the time would certainly result in the accidents that happened especially at low altitude where there is little to no time for the capt to recover from a wrong control input. Certainly an over reliance on automation that exists in conjunction with poor training and inexperience is a factor as well. As far as United, I have not flown with one other pilot who feels that they are unsafe flying a Max.

The term "mass hysteria" is defined as a psychological disorder where many people display the same symptoms with no obvious or discoverable link. Anyone saying this is mass hysteria is dismissing everyone's concerns about stepping on the plane as nothing more than a figment of their imagination and herd mentality.

I myself am undecided about whether I'd get on one. I have no MAX flights scheduled so I don't have to make the decision. My point is people have a valid reason to not want to fly on them for now and still let due course prevail. It's not one or the other.

Curious as to what 'purpotedly' means. :)::)

I respect your input as a Captain B737, and it's very well possible that one of the reasons you mentioned caused the accidents or one of them, but I'm sure you'll agree that the cause could also be something totally different. Don't forget that history has proven that more experience does not necessarily prevent pilot error. Let's await the results of the official investigations.

That being said, I agree with the remainder of your post, as of right now nothing pauses me either from setting foot on a B3XM.