anyone seen passengers on UA's TPAC flights wearing respirator yet? is it allowed?
Jan 29, 2020, 11:12 am
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Looks like some foreign carriers are really bringing the hammer down. No hot meals, everything in the cabin is disposible, etc.
https://news.yahoo.com/no-hot-meals-...070747364.html
https://news.yahoo.com/no-hot-meals-...070747364.html
all flights and passenger traffic between Taiwan and China should have already been grounded long ago.
Jan 29, 2020, 11:14 am
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just came back from a check-up with my doctor.... she said that the CDC reported around 140,000 flu deaths in the last two years. the media didn't seem remotely freaked out by 140,000 deaths.
kind of puts things in perspective for me.
Jan 29, 2020, 3:43 pm
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Flew yesterday HKG-NRT-HNL. I would say 75%+ in HKG were wearing masks, every staff member was wearing masks including the ANA cabin crew. In NRT maybe 15-25% of gen pop wearing masks, don't remember any staff at the UC or NH lounges wearing masks, none of the cabin crew, maybe 5% of passengers.
While waiting to board, someone went up the to the GA coughing pretty bad, got the stink eye from everyone in line.
While waiting to board, someone went up the to the GA coughing pretty bad, got the stink eye from everyone in line.
Jan 29, 2020, 3:50 pm
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I sincerely hope that the researchers are wrong about healthy people being able to spread the virus.(while they feel or show zero symptons)
Jan 29, 2020, 4:49 pm
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Jan 29, 2020, 4:59 pm
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most people that wear masks are wearing them wrong
65,000 people in usa were killed by the flu last year (8,000 so far this season) yet that is not deemed a crisis
wash your hands
AND BUY LOTS OF WATER JUGS
Last edited by cur; Jan 29, 2020 at 5:05 pm
Jan 29, 2020, 6:31 pm
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Have you worn those masks for extended period of time? They are pretty uncomfortable.
Also per several studies flying on a plane is not as dangerous as most people seem to think. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...ds-on-a-plane/; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...us-window.html
Also per several studies flying on a plane is not as dangerous as most people seem to think. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...ds-on-a-plane/; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...us-window.html
Jan 29, 2020, 7:50 pm
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Potential end-of-2020 headline: "Conovirus Saved Lives"?
Jan 30, 2020, 10:57 am
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A surgical mask will not protect you. It protects others from you. If you want to be protected from others you need to wear an N 95 or higher mask which are very uncomfortable.
Jan 30, 2020, 11:08 am
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I think I mentioned this upthread, but I recommend the 3-panel / "Aura" (from 3M) style ones. They are extremely comfortable (unlike the dome-shaped ones)
Jan 30, 2020, 11:27 am
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I have a fair number of the N95 ones (from California wildfire season), not too uncomfortable! Honestly feels better on my face being nice and snug than surgical masks which move around and can feel scratchy. Probably won't bother wearing it unless I have a sudden impromptu required trip to Hubei 
Jan 30, 2020, 4:27 pm
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fwiw, the WHO has released guidance about the use of masks in the context of 2019-nCoV: https://www.who.int/publications-det...ncov)-outbreak
In general, they discourage the use of medical masks by non-sick people in the community, and say they are only indicated when in the presence of suspected or confirmed cases of the virus. Some of that, however, is to discourage people from buying them to ensure that they're available to those that actually need them. They do note, however, that "a medical mask is not required, as no evidence is available on its usefulness to protect non-sick persons. However, masks might be worn in some countries according to local cultural habits. If masks are used, best practices should be followed on how to wear, remove, and dispose of them and on hand hygiene action after removal."
Also notable is that they generally recommend surgical masks for medical professionals, and only recommend N95 masks for medical professionals who are explicitly performing aerosol-generating procedures (e.g. intubation).
In general, they discourage the use of medical masks by non-sick people in the community, and say they are only indicated when in the presence of suspected or confirmed cases of the virus. Some of that, however, is to discourage people from buying them to ensure that they're available to those that actually need them. They do note, however, that "a medical mask is not required, as no evidence is available on its usefulness to protect non-sick persons. However, masks might be worn in some countries according to local cultural habits. If masks are used, best practices should be followed on how to wear, remove, and dispose of them and on hand hygiene action after removal."
Also notable is that they generally recommend surgical masks for medical professionals, and only recommend N95 masks for medical professionals who are explicitly performing aerosol-generating procedures (e.g. intubation).