Treated Differently as an Asian Passenger
#61
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I don't see any different treatment by UA when boarding/deplaning. UA is just bad with the greeting / thanking. I tend to thank the FAs when I get off the plane (unless I am dissatisfied with the service). UA FAs a lot of the time would say "You are welcome" but in my mind the proper response would be thanking me back for being a customer, which very few FAs do.
I did get something I really did not like on UA once. The FA was doing her exit row briefing. The person next to me did not verbally respond. I was waiting for that when the FA already moved onto me. When I hesitated (since the person next to me has not responded as required), the FA said "Do you understand English?". I of course responded by pointing out what has happened.
UA actually has a Diversity group which is supposed to make sure things like this do not happen.
I did get something I really did not like on UA once. The FA was doing her exit row briefing. The person next to me did not verbally respond. I was waiting for that when the FA already moved onto me. When I hesitated (since the person next to me has not responded as required), the FA said "Do you understand English?". I of course responded by pointing out what has happened.
UA actually has a Diversity group which is supposed to make sure things like this do not happen.
#62
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I lost count of how many times a UA FA who doesn't speak Chinese would signal to a Chinese speaking FA and say, LOUDLY: "Hey [insert first name], can you come over here? This one here can't understand what I'm saying!"...or something like that.
#63
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Most of us know that racism still exists in America, as in most parts of the world. In addition to the one I described which was definitely race based, I certainly have observed suspect racist behavior by FAs but I just don't see it boarding/deplaning.
In the service industry, you do want to size-up your customer somehow. The trick is to not treat the customer worse because of one's inherent bias.
In the service industry, you do want to size-up your customer somehow. The trick is to not treat the customer worse because of one's inherent bias.
#64
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I also have the experience where FAs usually say hello when boarding, and rarely goodbye or thanks when deplaning. However, I am aware that many people think I come across rather cold (but not rude), so I would prefer to think the FAs assessed during the course of our interactions that I would rather be left alone rather than racism. (which makes sense, since I feel I've observed this more since I started flying mostly in J where there is a bit more interaction)
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EDITED TO ADD: The cognitive and emotional contortions people put themselves through to deny the existence of systemic racism, bias (of varying degrees of consciousness), and the microaggressions is remarkable.
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This comment is completely unhelpful and irrelevant to the original post.
EDITED TO ADD: The cognitive and emotional contortions people put themselves through to deny the existence of systemic racism, bias (of varying degrees of consciousness), and the microaggressions is remarkable.
EDITED TO ADD: The cognitive and emotional contortions people put themselves through to deny the existence of systemic racism, bias (of varying degrees of consciousness), and the microaggressions is remarkable.
#67
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This comment, too, is completely unhelpful and irrelevant to the original post, or anything that has been posted since then. This is the UA forum, and the topic of this thread is the experience of the original poster and other people's related experiences on UA flights, whether similar or different. Whether people in general are "too PC", "have nothing better to do than overthink things these days", or unduly expect others to "listen and be a therapist" is completely off-topic and irrelevant to the discussion.
#68
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This comment, too, is completely unhelpful and irrelevant to the original post, or anything that has been posted since then. This is the UA forum, and the topic of this thread is the experience of the original poster and other people's related experiences on UA flights, whether similar or different. Whether people in general are "too PC", "have nothing better to do than overthink things these days", or unduly expect others to "listen and be a therapist" is completely off-topic and irrelevant to the discussion.
#69
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Topic Check
This obviously is a topic with ramifications much broader than the UA forum. This can easily turn into a topic about greater societal issues, but that is not the focus of this forum. Let's try to stay within the context the OP framed -- the interaction with crew on exiting the aircraft. If we can not stay within those boundaries or if the community does not feel that's a reasonable option, this thread may need to go to a different forum.
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This obviously is a topic with ramifications much broader than the UA forum. This can easily turn into a topic about greater societal issues, but that is not the focus of this forum. Let's try to stay within the context the OP framed -- the interaction with crew on exiting the aircraft. If we can not stay within those boundaries or if the community does not feel that's a reasonable option, this thread may need to go to a different forum.
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#70
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I’m Asian and I’ve never had this happen, but maybe because I ALWAYS say goodbye and thank you as I leave the plane.
Guess what, they always say goodbye back!
Guess what, they always say goodbye back!
#71
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My question is whether the OP or anyone else bothers to look the attendants in the eye, and to initiate the thanks, greetings or bids of goodbye to them. Why or why not? For me, I initiate the thanks, greetings and farewells because that's part of me, and I believe the crew deserves to be treated with the highest respect.
And what the heck does Asian mean? South Asian, East Asian, what?
What I have noticed as an East Asian is going through customs in East Africa these days. Considering what China has done to the port logistics of countries like Kenya, I noticed that Kenya will severely go through everybody's luggage to tax things, unless they appear East Asian... hm.
#72
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Also, several references to not getting the same treatment on AA (better) vs. UA (worse) with exact same deplaning behavior.
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#74
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I have never noticed any different behavior from a UA crew member due to race. In addition, I nearly always get a "thank you" when I leave. Obviously if a line of people are quickly leaving, I don't expect the FA to stop each person to say thank you.