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GS Qualifying for 2020 Discussion


This will be a discussion thread, for discussing the needed qualifications and timing of notification.
2019 GS Timeline:
  • First requalification notifications came out on 6 Dec 2018
  • First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
  • Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
  • Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
  • First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
For discussion of GS benefits, please use Consolidated Global Services Thread: Benefits, Questions 2019

If you have received notification about your 2020 GS status, please post in
Global Services 2020 Notifications (ONLY) -- "no discussion" (and as title suggests, this is just for notifications, use this thread for discussions / queries
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Originally Posted by jp12687
Form Link to collect this years qualification (or rejection) information

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...rm?usp=sf_link

You can view the results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to
MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.

Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.

Definitions

BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.

The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.

Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using

PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS

Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.

As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.

One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.
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Old Dec 29, 2019, 4:39 pm
  #781  
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
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I guess we will all have to wait (for those who are not GS) till January 10th... What is odd... or at least that's how I feel... is that, some are not GS... and they get a message that says wait till January 10th... others who are also not GS get another email saying "reviewing".... I don't get anything... i don't see any changes lol...

over 50k last year..
over 77k this year...

and nothing...

So... will wait till January 10th and wonder... why i didn't get anything
SFO based here....
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Old Dec 29, 2019, 5:10 pm
  #782  
 
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Originally Posted by cbono
I guess we will all have to wait (for those who are not GS) till January 10th... What is odd... or at least that's how I feel... is that, some are not GS... and they get a message that says wait till January 10th... others who are also not GS get another email saying "reviewing".... I don't get anything... i don't see any changes lol...
Been reading this forum quite religiously and am anxiously awaiting Jan. 10th myself but this is the first I've heard that non-GS have received anything on mystatus.united.com or an email about "reviewing".

Am I missing something? My understanding was those notifications were only for current GS who hadn't yet been renewed, not current non-GS...

Sorry but I'm also a but suspect as to whether these "notifications" would even be true for non-GS. Why would United even do that?

Doesn't make any sense...

-311

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Old Dec 29, 2019, 6:41 pm
  #783  
 
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Originally Posted by 311Hokie
Been reading this forum quite religiously and am anxiously awaiting Jan. 10th myself but this is the first I've heard that non-GS have received anything on mystatus.united.com or an email about "reviewing".

Am I missing something? My understanding was those notifications were only for current GS who hadn't yet been renewed, not current non-GS...

Sorry but I'm also a but suspect as to whether these "notifications" would even be true for non-GS. Why would United even do that?

Doesn't make any sense...

-311
I haven’t seen a single post that suggests a non-GS got a Jan 10th message. Can you quote the posts you’re posting about? Current GS’s that have not been given re-qual for 2020 have received that message, non-GS don’t hear anything.
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Old Dec 29, 2019, 7:23 pm
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Originally Posted by HoyaSFOIAD
I haven’t seen a single post that suggests a non-GS got a Jan 10th message. Can you quote the posts you’re posting about? Current GS’s that have not been given re-qual for 2020 have received that message, non-GS don’t hear anything.


think it was the way CBONO wrote their post that I quoted above.

Read several times and thought they were referring to current “non-GS” that got Jan 10th message. Think they were actually referring to “current GS” that have no chance to renew. Was strangely worded.
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 5:42 am
  #785  
 
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I am writing this from the United Club at EWR, about to take my last hop home for the year.

Based in PVD - would be curious as to chances for a first time qualifier. Was 1k in 2019 and here are my year end numbers:

214,550 PQM (186,200 on United Metal)
$73,201 PQD ($60,900 on United Metal)
88 PQS
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 5:52 am
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Originally Posted by KRONeill
I am writing this from the United Club at EWR, about to take my last hop home for the year.

Based in PVD - would be curious as to chances for a first time qualifier. Was 1k in 2019 and here are my year end numbers:

214,550 PQM (186,200 on United Metal)
$73,201 PQD ($60,900 on United Metal)
88 PQS

Welcome to GS for 2020!
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 6:52 am
  #787  
 
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Based out of EWR. I've been GS for the past two years. My stats:

2017: $47.3k PQD, 145k PQM
2018: $50.3k PQD, 180k PQM
2019: $48.2k PQD, 114k PQM

All of the above on United metal.

What do you think my chances are?
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 7:14 am
  #788  
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I'm noticing in the 2020 re-qualification thread that no re-qual has been <$50K PQD. I seem to remember previous years where some "first wave" re-quals had lower figures. Looking forward to the drop of January 10th-related info in a few weeks.
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 7:16 am
  #789  
 
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Location: Cape Cod MA
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Originally Posted by LIH
I'm noticing in the 2020 re-qualification thread that no re-qual has been <$50K PQD. I seem to remember previous years where some "first wave" re-quals had lower figures. Looking forward to the drop of January 10th-related info in a few weeks.
I also think the threshold for early qualification might tend to be higher this year. I did not early quality at 53K and have been well over 50K for each of the last three years.
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 8:41 am
  #790  
 
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8 Years GS out of EWR. First time not auto renewal. 50K PQD and 250K PQM. Waiting for Jan 10th...
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 8:47 am
  #791  
 
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Well, I am finishing the year a little below $55K (PQD) and a PQM a little north of 277,000 (All 016 tickets). No invitation, yet.
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 10:34 am
  #792  
 
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Originally Posted by 311Hokie
think it was the way CBONO wrote their post that I quoted above.

Read several times and thought they were referring to current “non-GS” that got Jan 10th message. Think they were actually referring to “current GS” that have no chance to renew. Was strangely worded.
Now that makes more sense....

So to wrap this up and per my understanding:

1)Those who have over 75k mid year may be invited already to become GS...
2)Those who are GS and meets criteria to have their GS renewed, are being notified in December by message or call or both.....
3)Those like me who are not currently GS but awaits for the decision for 2020 will be notified (or not if you don't meet the criteria) sometimes on January 10th... cause we are not GS and united only lets new GS know at that time...
4)Those GS that were GS who have not met their criteria for 2019 and await a decision, also will be notified in January 10th...and get their pending message.

if so, that makes a whole sense now...
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 10:39 am
  #793  
 
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Originally Posted by cbono
Now that makes more sense....

So to wrap this up and per my understanding:

1)Those who have over 75k mid year may be invited already to become GS...
2)Those who are GS and meets criteria to have their GS renewed, are being notified in December by message or call or both.....
3)Those like me who are not currently GS but awaits for the decision for 2020 will be notified (or not if you don't meet the criteria) sometimes on January 10th... cause we are not GS and united only lets new GS know at that time...
4)Those GS that were GS who have not met their criteria for 2019 and await a decision, also will be notified in January 10th...and get their pending message.

if so, that makes a whole sense now...
Mostly right, but a current GS not getting the early re-invite isn’t an indicator that they haven’t met the criteria. It just means United for some reason has decided to wait. Definitely more likely with borderline cases.
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 10:44 am
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Perfect. Now all makes sense.... it was confusing to me
Have to say :

* united metal word;
* Class type (j, z etc... ) i never ever paid attention to the ticket class, cause i typically and always use business tickets....
* years of being a premier 1 k that should count together with the amount spent...

All of it is not easy to follow.... now, the other pressure, as I read it on an article... is to continue to be GS....
Quiet frankly, i am not sure what the real perks are from being a 1 k to a GS... beside earlier boarding and a quick transfer (for tight correspondence) in the US... for reference, Lufthansa ALWAYS sends me a porches when I fly first class and have my own ride.... so.... to hear the transfer in the us is for "tight" connection.... is a bit disappointing...

So.. not really sure what the real perks are... i keep reading the "perks" per se but don't see the value behind it. I also read a GS say that it's hard to be a 1k... but as a 1 k for years, i don't see what the perks is to be a GS... beside the regular upgrade which some claims they do get and other GS says they don't get them... clearly this "invite only" has its own faulty system where confusion seems to be a word that many could use when referring to that program....At least based on my reading here... that's what I got... am i wrong? obviously, regardless of the program... anyone would want to have the top tier....
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 11:17 am
  #795  
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Originally Posted by cbono
....
Quiet frankly, i am not sure what the real perks are from being a 1 k to a GS... beside earlier boarding and a quick transfer (for tight correspondence) in the US... ....
There is much more -- especially in irrops and how you get to use your miles and upgrades for friends and family -- GS benefits are not publicly published but see this FT link for an overview.
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